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2022 Gas Prices - Will $2(+) per Litre slow you down?

It won't change our driving habits as I have a short commute (5km) and Kyle has a work car/gas card. The only part that will really suck is our gas for racing will be way higher since we run premium in the bikes and will be racing more classes this year. I kept track of all our expenses for racing last season, so it will be interesting to compare the numbers at the end of this season
 
I'm going to start going back into work in a few months after 2+ yrs of working from home, It's about 25-35km commute each way depending on route. The Volt will do that return trip easily on one charge, but I'd much rather take the bike, whatever the price of gas is. Getting to work with a smile on my face is priceless.

And I'm still going on long multi-day rides - gotta pay to play!
 
I’m sure the guy who bought our Ioniq EV who was previously spending $40/day on gas for his commute in a Jeep is relishing his decision. ~$35/day savings = $700/month in his pocket. And that’s only going to get bigger.

We are using a little bit more gas now having gone back to the second gen Volt but it’s a trade off for being able to use it as our tow pig this summer. Still averaging about 95% electric on every mile we’ve driven it since we bought it in October so no big complaints.

I’m heading off camping at Silent Lake this weekend to kick off the season so I’ll see how it fares mileage wise this time around. It wowed me last time for sure.

As for the bike, well, YOLO. Spending $100 for a day of riding is what it is, it’s not a financial deal breaker for us, but wow….looking back at when I was actively flying 12-15 years ago and spending easily $250/week on that, and having drifted away from aviation for that simple reason, well…..here we are again. Thankfully the financial picture is significantly different this time around, however my wife was getting a little bit testy with $1000 (+) a month in “me me me fun time” back then….
With the Goldwing a day outing would be a tankful, $30-$40. Not having to pay a criminal lawyer to defend me against a murder charge for strangling someone makes that a win. On a slow year my insurance would cost more.

On a long tour meals and motel would be more than the gas and I'm not seeing the accommodation prices I used to get. Meals are ??? The local diner used to have an early bird full breakfast and $10 covered the food, tax and a generous tip. Not any longer. A McCombo is $11.00 plus. Camp and cook in Ontario is insane for campsite prices.

Airplanes are great on fuel. What other means of transportation (Non EV) will legally get you 20 MPG at 120 MPH?

The problem is unless you are IFR, trips are too subject to weather. You can't pull over, put on your rain gear and carry on. Day trips involve $100 hamburgers because they do really taste better at another airport's greasy spoon.

One of the best vacations I had was doing the Trent / Rideau for three weeks. Buying a season's pass paid for the accommodation except for three nights. Gas was huge and that was just a little shy of today's prices, $1.40 / L, About $1500 in total IIRC. Food was a trip to the grocery store nearest the lock. My concern today would be crowding at the grey lines and locks.

The best part about the boat is having it moored in a good location. In our case a covered slip in Orillia. For two gallons of gas we could motor into town, buy food and drink at grocery store prices, motor over to a beach and enjoy the day with four or more people on board. I budgeted $5000 a year but probably closer to double that now. Again fuel wasn't the big cost.

Boat vs Airplane: They can have similar yearly costs and the airplane flies really well in winter air densities while the boat lies under a tarp. The boat has the advantage of being fun while moored at a beach or secluded cove, burning no fuel. The airplane is only interesting to most when making expensive holes in the air. On the ground only the aviation gear heads enjoy discussing propellers so after an hour or two you have to spend money on other diversions.

A friend figures $100 for gas to drive to the family cottage in Haliburton and return. The ski boat ate another $100 or $200 if things got serious. It wasn't worth it for a soggy weekend unless chores had to be done.

Pick your financial poison but the only option that could overall put money in your pocket is the cottage when you sell it, subject to market fluctuations.
 
I'm going to start going back into work in a few months after 2+ yrs of working from home, It's about 25-35km commute each way depending on route. The Volt will do that return trip easily on one charge, but I'd much rather take the bike, whatever the price of gas is. Getting to work with a smile on my face is priceless.

And I'm still going on long multi-day rides - gotta pay to play!
People returning to 70 km/day commutes from wfh is going to make a lot bigger difference on cashflow than fuel climbing to $2. For most people that puts them at one or more tanks a week required.
 
I booked a return flt to Edmonton and back at $132.00 . How can they even put fuel in a jet at that price ?
Crazy is Ft Mac, 2 hrs from Edmonton and the flight is $769.00 .


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With the Goldwing a day outing would be a tankful, $30-$40. Not having to pay a criminal lawyer to defend me against a murder charge for strangling someone makes that a win. On a slow year my insurance would cost more.

On a long tour meals and motel would be more than the gas and I'm not seeing the accommodation prices I used to get. Meals are ??? The local diner used to have an early bird full breakfast and $10 covered the food, tax and a generous tip. Not any longer. A McCombo is $11.00 plus. Camp and cook in Ontario is insane for campsite prices.

Airplanes are great on fuel. What other means of transportation (Non EV) will legally get you 20 MPG at 120 MPH?

The problem is unless you are IFR, trips are too subject to weather. You can't pull over, put on your rain gear and carry on. Day trips involve $100 hamburgers because they do really taste better at another airport's greasy spoon.

One of the best vacations I had was doing the Trent / Rideau for three weeks. Buying a season's pass paid for the accommodation except for three nights. Gas was huge and that was just a little shy of today's prices, $1.40 / L, About $1500 in total IIRC. Food was a trip to the grocery store nearest the lock. My concern today would be crowding at the grey lines and locks.

The best part about the boat is having it moored in a good location. In our case a covered slip in Orillia. For two gallons of gas we could motor into town, buy food and drink at grocery store prices, motor over to a beach and enjoy the day with four or more people on board. I budgeted $5000 a year but probably closer to double that now. Again fuel wasn't the big cost.

Boat vs Airplane: They can have similar yearly costs and the airplane flies really well in winter air densities while the boat lies under a tarp. The boat has the advantage of being fun while moored at a beach or secluded cove, burning no fuel. The airplane is only interesting to most when making expensive holes in the air. On the ground only the aviation gear heads enjoy discussing propellers so after an hour or two you have to spend money on other diversions.

A friend figures $100 for gas to drive to the family cottage in Haliburton and return. The ski boat ate another $100 or $200 if things got serious. It wasn't worth it for a soggy weekend unless chores had to be done.

Pick your financial poison but the only option that could overall put money in your pocket is the cottage when you sell it, subject to market fluctuations.
What plane gets you 20 mpg? My buddies 4 seater is about half that.

Planes can be fun when not moving. If it's on floats or skis you can be fishing or camping away from the wankers (unless you brought your own). We are contemplating buzzing out to tremblant as it's only two hours. Drop it on the lake, go skiing, a quick flight gets you to a nice hotel at far lower rates, repeat.
 
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If you want to save big bucks assess your need for that 2nd car. We went from 2 vehicles to 1 in 2020. Including depreciation that 2nd car can cost you a minimum $10k - $15k a year. If you can make it work, then big savings in after tax dollars.
Ditto. One insurance, one depreciation. Total mileage is down as well. With two cars there is a tendency to go shopping for yourself while the other does the same. With one car you get the other half to pick up things when they're out anyway.
 
We're a 1 car household. 2 kids a dog... and i love it
but then i also use the motorcycle for errands and the bicycle to get places too
 
Just curious on what this summers (potential) gas prices may change plans for riders and travellers.

A decent few hundred kilometer day trip on 2 wheels at $2/L could easily be a $60-$100 day now.

Long high speed road trip? Several hundred in gas alone easily. My trip that I did to the Cabot last fall for example would probably be an $800 thing now for just gas, again, before anything else - motels, meals, etc.

We have a trip planned to Gaspe again this summer with our camper (with friends), and the prospect of $2.25/L regular (east coast always more $) is giving us pause, although we'll probably still go....YOLO, after all. But I'll be budgeting probably $2500 for just the gas alone for an 8 day trip. Ouch indeed.

But I know there's a lot of people reconsidering summer road trips and such already.
What are you riding? A tankful at 2$/L costs me less than 50$ and gets me north of 300kms.

That said I'm not looking forward to filling my RV on the way to NL and back this summer.
 
What plane gets you 20 mpg? My buddies 4 seater is about half that.

Planes can be fun when not moving. If it's on floats or skis you can be fishing or camping away from the wankers (unless you brought your own). We are contemplating buzzing out to tremblant as it's only two hours. Drop it on the lake, go skiing, a quick flight gets you to a nice hotel at far lower rates, repeat.
I figured my Cherokee was about 13 MPG but a friend's Mooney was close to the 20 at a higher speed. The Mooney was a lot more aerodynamic.

Amphibious would be the way to go if you have really deep pockets.

The other expense IMO is owning a hanger. Nothing worse than finding your plane still iced up from the night before or pock marked from hail.
 
I figured my Cherokee was about 13 MPG but a friend's Mooney was close to the 20 at a higher speed. The Mooney was a lot more aerodynamic.

Amphibious would be the way to go if you have really deep pockets.

The other expense IMO is owning a hanger. Nothing worse than finding your plane still iced up from the night before or pock marked from hail.
Like other RE in Canada, hangars have been appreciating like crazy. If you bought at the right time, appreciation on the hangar could have paid for a plane and flying.

I keep pushing him to pick up a radial for awesomeness but it's not likely. Buy in cost and operating cost both climb substantially.
 
It's pretty much pay before pump now but a spike in prices used to mean fuel theft at stations, gas and dash. I don't know if siphoning will become more common. I've heard about people stealing from rail cars at sidings.
 
My buddy's new gas V-8 Ram was over $300 for a fill @ 1.40/ L. He hasn't started towing his RV yet.
My buddy's work had a sweet V8RAM...the thing was awesome on gas...after they spent $6k to install a 100-150L propane / natural gas tank.

Another buddy did that to his V8 Tundra and ran for >500k kms. Until the engine grenaded itself. When he went to the new EcoBoost V6 F150 he didn't even bother with the conversion as it's so good on gas.
 
Like other RE in Canada, hangars have been appreciating like crazy. If you bought at the right time, appreciation on the hangar could have paid for a plane and flying.

I keep pushing him to pick up a radial for awesomeness but it's not likely. Buy in cost and operating cost both climb substantially.
Some day I might cough up the $1000 an hour (Maybe more) to go for a ride in a radial Beaver on floats. Some are turbine or conversions. The Warplane Heritage had rides in radials but not on floats.

Drive there, fly back ~$720K CDN

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Burned over $175 worth of premium in two sleds over the past weekend and that was just local riding. Fuel prices won't change my riding habits this summer but I do only put $100 into my F-150 at a time right now, just don't want to see the pump flash a number close to $200 lol.
 
I booked a return flt to Edmonton and back at $132.00 . How can they even put fuel in a jet at that price ?
Crazy is Ft Mac, 2 hrs from Edmonton and the flight is $769.00 .


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At best 100 MPG on a moped, 3500 miles = 35 gallons at $5.00 + gallon = $175.00 but think of the adventure, book sales, YouTube income. :)
 
Burned over $175 worth of premium in two sleds over the past weekend and that was just local riding. Fuel prices won't change my riding habits this summer but I do only put $100 into my F-150 at a time right now, just don't want to see the pump flash a number close to $200 lol.
Decades ago we were filling dads truck and fishing boat. I asked if I should stop at $250 or go until full. He was quite happy to stop.
 

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