2012 Hyundai Elantra

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honduhmatic said:
I have an '01 Accord. It's in great shape, little rust yet, 161k kms, hope to keep it a few years.

Have done a clutch, had some transmission bearings replaced (prob my fault, didn't follow trans oil change interval), ball joints, front shocks, brakes, tires (100k kms and 5 years out of the OEM Michelins!), and an airbag computer. Not perfect, but not bad. The AC still works without a recharge. It's smaller than the current model and it's actually fun to drive with decent power and a good chassis, and it doesn't stick out to cops. Most importantly, it's paid for.
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I have the 98 Accord V6. 180k kms. Same as you, excellent shape. Only alternator, 2 batteries, 1 set of brakes, and just recently 1 ball joint. In 14 years, thats all the car ever needed. Starts and runs perfectly. Hope to get it 20 years before ditching it. Its just been so good to me and a comfortable car. Kinda hard to get rid of it.
 
Brian P said:
Mk6 Golf is a world of difference from Mk6 Jetta! The Jetta is the one that got cheapened. The Golf (like yours) got all the goodies. My dad has a 2011 Mk6 Golf TDI also, he loves it, I've forewarned him about the HPFP and the intercooler-freezing issues and what to look for.
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Now it makes sense ... :-)
 
I bought the 2012 Elantra in November. Love it, awesome car. Get the GL model, it's worth it. If you want a contact and how much I paid PM me.
 
SunnY S said:
I know exactly how you feel!

all i can say to all of the people who put down RIM/Blackberry and continue to consider them second rate:

keep it up. tell everyone you know that Apple and iProducts are still miles better than other products.

. . .that's the best way of ensuring that when i have to buy my next smart phone (most likely a RIM/Blackberry 10 product) that they will still be priced very aggressively. Thanks to all the negative publicity with RIM and Blackberry......... I got 2 excellent playbook tablets for the fire sale price of $200 each, a load of free apps from RIM because of that outage, and sweet deal on my last BB Bold phone cause apparently unless you own an Apple product, nothing else matters!


i thank you all in advance



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Might be tough to buy something from them once they go bankrupt.
 
SunnY S said:
I have the 98 Accord V6. 180k kms. Same as you, excellent shape. Only alternator, 2 batteries, 1 set of brakes, and just recently 1 ball joint. In 14 years, thats all the car ever needed. Starts and runs perfectly. Hope to get it 20 years before ditching it. Its just been so good to me and a comfortable car. Kinda hard to get rid of it.
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Werd, great minds think alike.

A number of the issues I brought up came up last year, at year 10, and I debated what to do with it. I wouldn't mind something quicker and sportier, but next to other recent sedans I've driven (Altima, Cruze, Malibu, Mazda 6...), I prefer my old Accord. It's the perfect size and it has a good chassis. I stuck with an E46 BMW 3-series (320i or 323i, I hope) on my last trip down Forks of the Credit :D.

Why spend money on 4 wheels when you can spend it on two?

Back to the OP, I'd buy a 2-3 year model Chev or Ford compact, or a Nissan. I love the Honda, but I paid a lot for it even 5 years old.... that said, I feel confident it has a good 2-3 years left and it's still worth like $5k. Good luck with your decision.
 
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I just test-drove the Elantra. Good brakes for an entry level car. The 150hp did not feel small at all. It had a bit of pickup. You can feel the engine in the cabin, but thats natural for that level of car. The transmission offer very little resistance and slips into gear very easily (manual), that cause a bit of concern. I can literally throw it into gear without using the clutch while the car is not in ignition, thats kinda unusual.

The interior looks very spacious for a small car and the trunk looks decent.

Even though the crash test ratings were good. The doors felt light and the trunk felt light. Not too sure how that would hold up in a crash. Buts its hard for me to gauge without crashing it.

I did not have a highway drive today, I was a bit disappointed about that. I try to convince the salesman but was reluctant, he complained about the snow today
 
RockerGuy said:
I just test-drove the Elantra. Good brakes for an entry level car. The 150hp did not feel small at all. It had a bit of pickup. You can feel the engine in the cabin, but thats natural for that level of car. The transmission offer very little resistance and slips into gear very easily (manual), that cause a bit of concern. I can literally throw it into gear without using the clutch while the car is not in ignition, thats kinda unusual.

The interior looks very spacious for a small car and the trunk looks decent.

Even though the crash test ratings were good. The doors felt light and the trunk felt light. Not too sure how that would hold up in a crash. Buts its hard for me to gauge without crashing it.

I did not have a highway drive today, I was a bit disappointed about that. I try to convince the salesman but was reluctant, he complained about the snow today
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Do me a favour..... next time you take one out, drive over some train tracks with it. Then do the same with, say, a new Ford Focus.

Come back and report your results. ;)
 
SunnY S said:
Do me a favour..... next time you take one out, drive over some train tracks with it. Then do the same with, say, a new Ford Focus.

Come back and report your results. ;)
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I can report on that. They are almost the exact same, wife agrees. I do think the Focus had more sportier handling overall than compared to the Elantra.
 
SunnY S said:
Do me a favour..... next time you take one out, drive over some train tracks with it. Then do the same with, say, a new Ford Focus.

Come back and report your results. ;)
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Its not that bad. I did went over some train tracks that day.

I test drove a 2007 IS250 today. That car had no soul, it was really boring and had nothing to offer. The interior was really small too.
 
Regarding paint quality on these vehicles, I've just noticed on my gf's 2011 Sonata that the little stone chips on the hood are rusting very badly. Basically any chip no matter how small has the paint around it bubbling up and is rust coloured. In comparison, my Mazda sitting beside it has ~60,000 more km's on it and has lots of small stone chips on the front of the hood and no rust anywhere. I've been a car-guy all my life and never saw rust from such small paint chips that should just be sitting at the primer level however on these Hyundai's it's gone right down to the bare metal easily and is now rusting. Anyone had any similar dealings with Hyundai over this (I intend to take the car to them with my complaint)?
 
Hardwrkr13 said:
Regarding paint quality on these vehicles, I've just noticed on my gf's 2011 Sonata that the little stone chips on the hood are rusting very badly. Basically any chip no matter how small has the paint around it bubbling up and is rust coloured. In comparison, my Mazda sitting beside it has ~60,000 more km's on it and has lots of small stone chips on the front of the hood and no rust anywhere. I've been a car-guy all my life and never saw rust from such small paint chips that should just be sitting at the primer level however on these Hyundai's it's gone right down to the bare metal easily and is now rusting. Anyone had any similar dealings with Hyundai over this (I intend to take the car to them with my complaint)?
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Its funny that they don't offer any warranty on the rusting
 
Hardwrkr13 said:
In comparison, my Mazda sitting beside it has ~60,000 more km's on it and has lots of small stone chips on the front of the hood and no rust anywhere.
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Consider yourself lucky! Tons of threads on the mazda 3 forums about premature rusting of the wheel wells and fenders
 
mma01 said:
Consider yourself lucky! Tons of threads on the mazda 3 forums about premature rusting of the wheel wells and fenders
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Heard that too!
Mazdas had a reputation for rusting also, long before the Mazda 3
 
As much as Hyundai and Kia have stepped up their game and styling. I can't bring myself to buy one.
 
RockerGuy said:
Its not that bad. I did went over some train tracks that day.

I test drove a 2007 IS250 today. That car had no soul, it was really boring and had nothing to offer. The interior was really small too.
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Oh no, really!?!?! I have the 01' IS250 sports edition and I love that car. I was just imagining how the newer versions would perform. Mine is super smooth and very fast
 
strictlye said:
Oh no, really!?!?! I have the 01' IS250 sports edition and I love that car. I was just imagining how the newer versions would perform. Mine is super smooth and very fast
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I must admit the interior of the older one was better than the newer one. I was about to buy the older one when I was shopping for my present car
 
The older IS is cool.

The new one is just .. meh.... for about the same price as a 3 series I am not sure why you would get the IS.
 
OpenGambit said:
The older IS is cool.

The new one is just .. meh.... for about the same price as a 3 series I am not sure why you would get the IS.
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I have the 3 series now.

the answer, reliability!
Google e46 subframe issue
 
Maybe its just me, but I would still rather take the 3 series.

reliability is important but that isn't gonna make me buy the IS... the thing just has no emotional pull. If I am putting down 45 grand. I gotta love it a little more than what the IS offers.

at that price level, I would rather get an evo, its 50g, its cheap inside.., but its a boy's car and it makes me feel younger driving it =D.
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