I'm sorry but that car just isn't rocking enough...I'm going to start calling you SuburbanCorporateSellOutGuy
I think calling me Idon'tCareWhatOthersThinkAsLongAsI'mHappy would be more appropriate
2012 Hyundai Elantra
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I think calling me Idon'tCareWhatOthersThinkAsLongAsI'mHappy would be more appropriate
killerkeith
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Listen here SuburbanCorporateSellOutGuy, return that grocery getter and sack up to this!
Listen here SuburbanCorporateSellOutGuy, return that grocery getter and sack up to this!
+1. Mind you, he did mention that he needed a good winter vehicle, so I would've gone with this...
The wife traded in her '09 Impreza for a '12 Legacy a few months ago. Very nice car, she even lets me drive it once in awhile... until I knock the shift lever into "M" and start using the paddles on the steering wheel.
http://www.autoblog.com/2012/11/02/...d-mileage-claims-will-compensate-o/#continued
Pretty well known in the industry that Hyundai is "optimistic" about their claims. And that is just being politcally correct.
Pretty well known in the industry that Hyundai is "optimistic" about their claims. And that is just being politcally correct.
I knew it all along, but never tested it officially. I knew manufacturers test their cars on a perfectly flat surface so did not bring it up with the dealer. I'm disappointed with these guys.
I guess i'll have to speak with my dealer
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That article pertains specifically to US vehicles, so you may not get reimbursed from a Canadian dealer. Still worth a try.
EPA has frequently (if not always) checked the fuel economy numbers that is calculated from the FTP, US06, and SC03 drive cycles. These are the cycles are used in conjuction with road load coefficients to generate the window stick fuel economy rating. Until very recently, they haven't always checked the vehicle road load coefficents that indicate air drag, rolling resistance, and static friction. Prior to checking these road load coefficients, EPA would use the values submitted by the manufacturer and take them at face value.
I'll let you do the math and come up with the rest of this story, because the article nor Hyundai explain what the actual descrepancies are. And the whole being apologetic thing is simply saving face and trying to retain their customer base because I can assure you that Hyundai knew about this from day one and the competition knew about it shortly after the vehicles were released for public sale. The original article states that an EPA staff member noticed a descrepency, but I can assure you that EPA has many OEM's in their ear on this matter.
00ninja
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Oh you will. We traded in our 1993 Accord with almost no rust at 298,000km. It was still it's original starter and alternator and head gasket. Never burned a drop of oil and I could get to Montreal from TO on a tank of gas and then some. We only got rid of it because it required all new brakes, brake line and suspension work. Too much $ to fix. That said, if we lived in Florida and didn't have to worry about salt we'd still be driving it today. Best car I ever owned. Period.
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OP - I don't recommend a used Mazda 3 (if you're looking to buy used). We have a fully loaded 2008 Mazda 3 that we bought new. It looks fantastic and drives great. But when there's a problem with it no dealership can seem to fix it. I've tried 3 local dealerships to fix the same problem and they all give me the same dumb a*s look. I still don't have the problem fixed going on 2 years.
Great cars that hampered by their terrible customer service and mechanics.
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Oops. So much for the big "40 mpg" claims and the advertising hype around it. Now, there's not a single one in the lineup with that figure. Not one.
Seen this one coming for a long time. What surprises me, is that it affects pretty much everything in their entire lineup.
Next stop: GM. Show me a 4-cyl Chevrolet Equinox that will match their fuel economy claims. Oh, I forgot: GM stands for Government Motors. It'll never happen.
You need to look into CAMVAP while you still qualify, that's where I may be heading with my vehicle.
00ninja
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Thanks for the tip. I'll look into that. Funny, I meant to say terrible customer service not terrible customers.
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OP - I spoke to some co-workers about their Hyundai's since my original post. It seems they are all quite happy with their purchases. Only had minor issues which were easily fixed. One guy has a 1997 Accent with 460,000km. The only thing he's replaced is a broken window crank. He said he's kept up with all the required maintenance and that's it. He's even painted it once.
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