1st whiny rant, sorry

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jeffjones said:
Better off donating condoms more then anything, I don't see why they should have like 10 children when they can't even feed themselves....
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I thought the same thing. When World Vision called me once I asked them if they supplied contraceptives and they said they do. The problem with the contraceptives, they said, was the people's beliefs didn't allow it.

I started working with a Nigerian that's been here for about 7 years now. The topic came up about people having so many kids after he told me how many siblings he has. What he told me was they have so many kids in the hopes that one or more will become somewhat successful and help them.

Don't forget guys, most countries in Africa don't have social security.
 
toybm said:
What you're whining about is cosmetic, I think the important thing here is whether your money helps provide food, shelter, medical help and some form of education. I guess the real important stuff to you is that they have clean T-shirts, different realities I guess.

How much money do you think they get? They are non-profit, not operate-at-a-loss organisations that cater to millions of people and prioritize aid to the areas that are most in need (food, shelter, medical help and some form of education).
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Cosmetic? Am I talking to myself here? I'm saying don't present the the kid in rags for marketing purposes. AND I'd like to see value for money given, you know, like our tax dollars. I realize I'm pointing out the obvious. If you need to spin it a different way for entertainment value, knock yourself out.
 
ZX600 said:
So pretty much what you are saying is "what's in it for you" you are giving so you can feel the satisfaction and not for the actual good of the kid.

It's ok, it's human nature... hence why I really don't like humans and would donate and help animals instead
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I see the kid manipulated. I don't like it. I love the satisfaction angle. Charities play to that. I rise above that and give anyway. That's how I roll.
 
imnothng said:
I thought the same thing. When World Vision called me once I asked them if they supplied contraceptives and they said they do. The problem with the contraceptives, they said, was the people's beliefs didn't allow it.

I started working with a Nigerian that's been here for about 7 years now. The topic came up about people having so many kids after he told me how many siblings he has. What he told me was they have so many kids in the hopes that one or more will become somewhat successful and help them.

Don't forget guys, most countries in Africa don't have social security.
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This is why I've been told they have so many kids as well. Something along the lines of most of them will die before they become productive. The more you have the more likely a few will actually grow up.
 
RandomHero said:
This is why I've been told they have so many kids as well. Something along the lines of most of them will die before they become productive. The more you have the more likely a few will actually grow up.
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Wasn't that the standard operating procedure the world over? I think it's a viable modality. No surprise those left behind are still using it.
 
If you want to contribute to a reputable organisation in Africa, might I suggest the Grandmothers to Grandmothers campaign, part of the Stephen Lewis Foundation. They support grandmothers who are left raising their grandchildren as the parents have died of AIDS etc. Only 10% of the funds raised goes to administrative costs, the rest right to Africa and the families in need.
 
BNKN said:
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Charity by design is not a profit center. Every time somebody trots out the "you have to pay the best to get the best I need to hurl" Thanx.
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Charity by design may not be a profit centre, but it still needs to succeed like any other business. What do you think the PR does? They find ways to reach out so that they get the donations, instead of the other charity. But that can't be right...charities don't compete!

It's not that you have to pay the best to get the best, it's that you have to pay what's reasonable. And in so many cases, it simply isn't. People expect charity workers to either break even or even shoulder the costs, themselves. They're scrutinized for living anything other than a meager or frugal life.

imnothng said:
What he told me was they have so many kids in the hopes that one or more will become somewhat successful and help them.
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That's exactly it. My dad was the only one who made it out of 7. He had to put his brothers & sisters through school while working abroad and pretty much being the breadwinner. His "life" started later than all of them because he had to shoulder their expenses. ****** luck, imo. Same deal with my mom except more than 1 made it.
 
revrandy said:
If you want to contribute to a reputable organisation in Africa, might I suggest the Grandmothers to Grandmothers campaign, part of the Stephen Lewis Foundation. They support grandmothers who are left raising their grandchildren as the parents have died of AIDS etc. Only 10% of the funds raised goes to administrative costs, the rest right to Africa and the families in need.
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Will look at this. Thank you very much.
 
OpenGambit said:
I think you have patted yourself on the back enough in this thread already.
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Oh geez did I say something back there to hurt your feelings, should I go look? or are you one of those guys who can't put 2 and 2 together? :lol3 the fact that this is your conclusion says more about you than I need to know. Oh boy now I've done it yikes, how will I go on?
 
I was offered a job @ world vision after I graduated, but I declined
 
BNKN said:
What won you over on this one, if you please?
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Tangible results vs. vague, give-us-money-and-we'll-help pleas. The organization documents all the well projects they complete for their donators to see.
 
FullMotoJacket said:
This is the only worthwhile one I have come across. The teams go into villages and put in wells with (simple, bulletproof, Canadian designed) pumps.

http://thewaterproject.org/clean-water-wells-in-africa.asp
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That is actually an organisation started by a member from my church. He lived in Africa for many years, now lives here but has a passion to ensure that everyone has access to clean drinking water. Just before Christmas one organisation gave him $10,000 for the construction of wells. Very worthwhile cause and group.
 
Charities have to publish how much of the money donated actually goes to the cause and how much is eaten up in supporting the organization. My preference is to donate to the Red Cross, as they only eat up less than 10% of the money in the cost of maintaining the organization. The rest actually goes to the causes that they support.

Don't donate through telemarketers. They take a cut and pass the rest on to the actual organization, who then also have to defray their own operating costs.
 
crankcall said:
what kind of dogs? if they are manly sporting dogs and not frufru lap dogs I'll donate to get them new collars. But if you want shiney collars I'm thinking they are frilly dust mop style dogs.

post a picture of the dogs first.
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he needs a new collar...
 
Rob MacLennan said:
Charities have to publish how much of the money donated actually goes to the cause and how much is eaten up in supporting the organization.

This, but watch in there marketing and even small local service clubs will pull this one, they announce they raised $1million dollars!!! they dont mention in the media ad how much they netted, just the gross amount.
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Rob MacLennan said:
Charities have to publish how much of the money donated actually goes to the cause and how much is eaten up in supporting the organization. My preference is to donate to the Red Cross, as they only eat up less than 10% of the money in the cost of maintaining the organization. The rest actually goes to the causes that they support.

Don't donate through telemarketers. They take a cut and pass the rest on to the actual organization, who then also have to defray their own operating costs.
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+1 to this. The red cross has been the 1st to be at disaster areas & has been helping for decades
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