Hey OP for every dollar u donate only anout 10c reaches the kids. The rest goes to the employees & management.
1st whiny rant, sorry
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Before you do that and put your faith on what GTAM members say, contact someone and get them to give you a break down of where your money is going
If this is a non profit, they must show records of percentage that goes to "admin" and the percentage that is actually used to help the child
Once you have that information then make a decision, you may be actually helping a child, I doubt it because these non profit organizations specially the Cristian ones are ran by a bunch of pig ******** but you never know
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In order for an organization to be a non-profit, there are established guidelines of how much can be used for administration cost, 90% is not allowed... or are you pulling that number out of your ***?
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rbjeepthing
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Me and my wife sponsor an African child. My wife found him in a banana plantation close to Tanzania while volunteering at a small independent school/orphange. His name is Peter and he was parents died from AIDS and his grandparents beat him until he ran away. We are actually going to see him in 2014 as he will be graduating from reg school. So yes it is possible to make a difference you just need to pick the right organization to do so.
Here is their site if anyone is interested in actually sponsoring a child with a good organization. Also if you want to volunteer and go there I can highly recommend it!
http://www.gomadnow.org/madsite
Here is their site if anyone is interested in actually sponsoring a child with a good organization. Also if you want to volunteer and go there I can highly recommend it!
http://www.gomadnow.org/madsite
I said ABOUT. Read it right
I know people who worked in a certain organization. I'd believe them before anything else, unless u come up with solid proof
So you "about" covers a range from 90% down to 20%?
The Canadian disbursement quota (DQ) requires charities in most cases to spend 80% of the amount receipted by the charity in the previous year on charitable activities in the following year
Annual spending requirement (disbursement quota)
The disbursement quota is the minimum calculated amount that a registered charity is required to spend each year on its own charitable programs or on gifts to qualified donees, such as other registered charities.
http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/chrts-gvng/chrts/prtng/spndng/clclb-eng.html
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I understand what you're saying (re: internet forums/GTAM members etc.) and appreciate your input. But I have a hard time imagining what bafflegab this organization could say to explain away presenting this child in such deplorable condition. His fly was down for Gods sake! If that was staged, that's just wrong. And if it wasn't staged, well, I don't know what's worse. I looked at rbjeepthings link. That's how it should be. Fresh T shirts all around at a minimum.
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eljay
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Tell them you want to send the kid a new wardrobe because he looks awful and if the next dozen or so picture don't show him modelling his new digs you are cancelling the donations. I bet they tell you it's not even possible. Even if they did spend all their money on charitable activity, most of that goes to salaries of the people doing the charity.
Even better, tell them you have $1000 USD you want to just fedex and put right in the kids hands. No doubt that is impossible for some reason as well.
Even better, tell them you have $1000 USD you want to just fedex and put right in the kids hands. No doubt that is impossible for some reason as well.
Stop saying that u'll make uncle Paulo angry
I have served on the Board of Directors of a not for profit The problem with the International charities is that they are compliant in the country they are operating, but when you send your percentages off shore for to be distributed in charitable efforts, there are a lot of "overheads" in other countries.
I'm not saying dont give to charities, I donate regularily, just do your homework . There are some really good ones and some less than stellar.
OpenGambit
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Dood, its 35 bucks a month, don't expect a ton of progress.
Kid's still alive. I don't know what else you really expected.
Kid's still alive. I don't know what else you really expected.
True. In the early goings I tried to lavish a soccer ball onto the kid. No go. I came to understand the money is pooled and distributed around and not specifically matched to that child. I could live with that.
The bottom line, and the impetus for this rant, is that somewhere some person or committee has taken the decision to purposely present the kid in a most deshevelled state for marketing oomph. The first set of pictures 5 yrs. ago, ok, show me a street urchin but show some improvement over time.
DownUnder
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The majority of Not for Profit organizations are just a money making machine for the "directors/employees". Only way to really make a difference to these people is go there and invest directly in their community. IMO better off donating money/time to local organizations here in Canada where you can see what is actually happening.
Personally the SPCA would get my money, long before any of the mainstream charities. And I wouldnt give cash, but cans of dog/cat food, toys etc.
Personally the SPCA would get my money, long before any of the mainstream charities. And I wouldnt give cash, but cans of dog/cat food, toys etc.
I'd be more concerned about the kid growing properly than what he was wearing. There really isn't much of a point of wearing nice clothes when everyone around you, isn't. It's easy to get stuck up on clothing when we value different things over here. When I send money back home, they're not using that stuff to buy clothes...they're using it on everyday expenses like gasoline or food.
Also, I don't understand why there's such a big hate for people making a living from helping the needy. If you don't want money getting lost in overhead/admin, then give directly or go volunteer. Personally, I think the person on the frontlines deserves a fair income. I wouldn't be opposed to them having a nice steak every now and then. The same can be said for the director who makes things happen.
Don't get me wrong...I understand that money saved can be put towards actual aid, but I've just come to see it as the cost of business. I never understood why people helping others had to be starving to do so. They're doing great things, and if the choice is between no one doing anything, or someone doing something with a big portion of donations being lost in infrastructure, then I can live with the latter. Ie if recruiting the best director for an organization is more costly, then I'd pick that over skimping dollars to hire someone less competent.
Also, I don't understand why there's such a big hate for people making a living from helping the needy. If you don't want money getting lost in overhead/admin, then give directly or go volunteer. Personally, I think the person on the frontlines deserves a fair income. I wouldn't be opposed to them having a nice steak every now and then. The same can be said for the director who makes things happen.
Don't get me wrong...I understand that money saved can be put towards actual aid, but I've just come to see it as the cost of business. I never understood why people helping others had to be starving to do so. They're doing great things, and if the choice is between no one doing anything, or someone doing something with a big portion of donations being lost in infrastructure, then I can live with the latter. Ie if recruiting the best director for an organization is more costly, then I'd pick that over skimping dollars to hire someone less competent.
Wow Mr. Knowledge you don't get it.
Ever heard of self esteem? It's huge in this hemisphere, why not Afrika? Toss the kid a clean T shirt fer crise sake.
Charity by design is not a profit center. Every time somebody trots out the "you have to pay the best to get the best I need to hurl" Thanx.
Ever heard of self esteem? It's huge in this hemisphere, why not Afrika? Toss the kid a clean T shirt fer crise sake.
Charity by design is not a profit center. Every time somebody trots out the "you have to pay the best to get the best I need to hurl" Thanx.
Red_Liner740
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Charities and donations **** with the natural selection.
Its just like offering welfare and EI that pays out better than getting a job, where's the incentive to get out of the hole?
by providing CONSTANT donation and relief to these people, you are doing nothing but creating a welfare case in another country that has to rely on foreign aid. Cuz as soon as you get one kid out of a 100 out of a hole, there are thousands lined up waiting for more.
The world is over populated.....aint no way to look at it in any other "light" but that.
The fact is that there are organizations out there that feed themselves by pulling on your heart strings and taking advantage of the good will of the good natured people.
yea, i'm a cold hearted mofo, but i help out in my community locally, sending money is easy, going to shelters to help out is much harder.
Its just like offering welfare and EI that pays out better than getting a job, where's the incentive to get out of the hole?
by providing CONSTANT donation and relief to these people, you are doing nothing but creating a welfare case in another country that has to rely on foreign aid. Cuz as soon as you get one kid out of a 100 out of a hole, there are thousands lined up waiting for more.
The world is over populated.....aint no way to look at it in any other "light" but that.
The fact is that there are organizations out there that feed themselves by pulling on your heart strings and taking advantage of the good will of the good natured people.
yea, i'm a cold hearted mofo, but i help out in my community locally, sending money is easy, going to shelters to help out is much harder.
Thats the problem right there. Time is money, I can generate more of it if I'm not hanging around dirty shelters getting up in everybodies business. I want to give money, all detached like, and feel I've done something. Value for the dollar is what I'm griping about.
What you're whining about is cosmetic, I think the important thing here is whether your money helps provide food, shelter, medical help and some form of education. I guess the real important stuff to you is that they have clean T-shirts, different realities I guess.
How much money do you think they get? They are non-profit, not operate-at-a-loss organisations that cater to millions of people and prioritize aid to the areas that are most in need (food, shelter, medical help and some form of education).
So pretty much what you are saying is "what's in it for you" you are giving so you can feel the satisfaction and not for the actual good of the kid.
It's ok, it's human nature... hence why I really don't like humans and would donate and help animals instead
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