ZX-10 getting spanked by a station wagon @ 300 kmh

I can't speak for the other three but Kawi's are not limited to 299. The speedo simply won't read any higher than 299.

The tach will redline in 6th at 299 but if the bike has enough power the rpms will continue to climb. My 04 was geared but I never had a speedohealer, I could hit the limiter in 6th and the speedo would read 299 @ redline, and would also read 299 @ the limiter.

The 299 readout is probably 5-10% optimistic in the first place though. 300+/- seems to be about the most you'll wring out of a 1k anyway. Lots of stock sports cars will spank that... granted it might take em a few minutes to catch up, first :eek:
 
The 299 readout is probably 5-10% optimistic in the first place though. 300+/- seems to be about the most you'll wring out of a 1k anyway. Lots of stock sports cars will spank that... granted it might take em a few minutes to catch up, first :eek:

Not to mention the very good chance the zx10 is geared a bit different, so he could be going quite a bit slower than 300
 
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Knowing how things are in Germany, it's fairly likely that the ZX10R was bone stock, and the Audi was chip-tuned to remove the speed limiter (among other things).

People don't do random performance modifications over there. Anything you do to a vehicle, had better come with a declaration of conformity, otherwise the vehicle WILL fail its TuV inspection, and the police can and do stop vehicles for technical inspection if they spot anything suspect whatsoever (e.g. a noisy muffler). All the bikes that I saw over there, were stock (or at least, with nothing visible or audible changed).

You can get TuV-approved performance programs for some vehicles (mostly German performance brands, of course). It has to be done in conjunction with ensuring that the tires carry an appropriate speed rating and that any other issues that might arise at higher-than-stock top speed are taken care of (suspension, aerodynamic stability, etc). The 250 km/h speed limiter that most cars come with as standard, is not a law, it's a "gentleman's agreement", just as the 300 km/h speed limiter for motorcycles is. Because it's not a law, it's not illegal to remove the limiter. BUT ... you must ensure that the tires carry an appropriate speed rating and are in good condition. They do not mess around with vehicle safety over there.
 
its an ABT tuned RS6. Its like AMG for Merc, SVT for Ford, Nismo for Nissan etc etc.

Basically, its factory warranted hopped up Wagon that i'd kill for. Unfortunately the price tag would kill me first! lol
 
Superior coefficient of drag doesn't necessarily mean superior aerodynamics. You have to factor in frontal area, and you'll find the numbers swing back in favour of the motorcycle. Of course this doesn't include elements contributing to lift or downforce... the latter of which creates even more aerodynamic drag.

The simple truth is that bikes don't have the crazy amount of power it takes to overcome drag at high velocity. They don't have more drag, they just don't have enough power. Double the speed and you need quadruple the power.. but you've also quadrupled the drag.



Nope...bikes have a WAYYYYYY higher coefficient of drag than an average sedan. Back in 1995 Sport Rider magazine wind tunnel tested the Kawi ZX11, which was the sleekest bike in production, against a Ford Taurus, and a 4'x8' sheet of plywood stood up facing broadside intot he wind. The Taurus tested almost 5x better than the bike, and the bike barely beat the aerodynamics of a flat faced sheet of plywood.
 
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Knowing how things are in Germany, it's fairly likely that the ZX10R was bone stock, and the Audi was chip-tuned to remove the speed limiter (among other things).

As RL said it's done in house by ABT in Kempten.

1250 € lifts the limiter (stock was 280 KPH) and it will then run out to ~310 KPH

5220 € worth of engine work raises the power from 580PS to 700PS which is ~690 HP at the crank.

They do a full SAEMS, aero, wheels and tires and decrease the CO2 emissions by 30%. A fully road legal to German standards tune, same as AMG or RUF would do for their respective brands.

The math says it's 3.197 gearing would run out @ 355 KPH.

I'd rather have the AS8 but it's actually slower....

ABT-AS8-front-three-quarter-1024x640.jpg
 
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As RL said it's done in house by ABT in Kempten.

1250 € lifts the limiter (stock was 280 KPH) and it will then run out to ~310 KPH

5220 € worth of engine work raises the power from 580PS to 700PS which is ~690 HP at the crank.

They do a full SAEMS, aero, wheels and tires and decrease the CO2 emissions by 30%. A fully road legal to German standards tune, same as AMG or RUF would do for their respective brands.

The math says it's 3.197 gearing would run out @ 355 KPH.

I'd rather have the AS8 but it's actually slower....

ABT-AS8-front-three-quarter-1024x640.jpg

Great Googily moogily that's nice!
 
you do realize the Big 4 have their top end bikes limited to 299 right...
its not just Kawi.

Totally. And further to that point, they are geared to be bouncing against redline at the top of 6th gear at 299, because what's the point if the ECU won't let you go past that anyway?
 
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