wsj takes trump to task

It is damn sad to be honest, everyone is an expert on their own views regardless of facts or anyone's elses point of view.

Like this stupid argument I am having above, I am not offended personally by the bad hombre comment, but I can understand why many latin americans are, is to do with context, the messenger and the tone of it, but these guys with no insight on the culture pretend to know what should or should not be..... just unbelievable.

Funny I only see white pundants raising the alarm. You make the comparison to using the N word. If the guy said we got a bunch of bad ***** (rhymes with picks) I'd be right there with ya.

I got to stop posting here so I am out.

Sure ya will haha
 
I'm not concerned about us conflict with Russia if Hillary wins. It will just be sabre rattling of the Cold War. If trump wins then I expect Russia to walk into territories like the Ukraine unopposed by trump.

Trump would be cool with it if he gets the hotel and golf course concessions.
 
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@fastar1... See what it takes to obtain a label these days.. This is my point on Trump. As for Sen Byrd, yeah he may have atoned for his previous beliefs, not arguing that; merely how it's a forgiveness Trump apparently isn't afforded.
What has he done to earn forgiveness? On the contrary, he's given many reasons to believe he's just as racist and sexist as ever.
 
What has he done to earn forgiveness? On the contrary, he's given many reasons to believe he's just as racist and sexist as ever.

The spurious commentary continues. So you think using the word hombre makes him a racist? What about the sexism? You never bothered to reference actual current comments yourself, instead choosing to proclaim because his detractors say it's so... Funny that doesn't work for you when it's HC who's the target..

Again, they're both **** in their own ways; just pointing out the hypocrisy of it all. How the Demo's can get behind HC after everything that we've learned about the Primaries and the corruption of the DNC. Insane.
 
Hillary gets diplomats killed. But Trump needs to seek forgiveness for 'mean words' LOL
 
Terms like "hombres" are arguably not "racist" directly so, but most certainly serve as a dog whistle for a percentage of his followers who most certainly are over the top racists.

He knows his audience, no question there.
 
At least somebodies talking an actual, factual, issue around here. Something to look into.

For those of us without a legal degree :D

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/labor-board-trump-hotel-230720

It sounds like just another smear campaign against talented Donald. I am not sure, this "little" lawsuit will keep him awake at night (there's apparently a lot of pots on the legal burners for him right now). Otherwise great guy and great businessman ...
 
Hillary gets diplomats killed. But Trump needs to seek forgiveness for 'mean words' LOL

Well, it's not like over time he would not have a body count attached to his name if commander-in-chief .... it goes against the grain of US international policies, regardless who is in the oval office.
 
Well, it's not like over time he would not have a body count attached to his name if commander-in-chief .... it goes against the grain of US international policies, regardless who is in the oval office.

Maybe not. The Donald doesn't seem to fit in with the establishment at all. With Hillary it's a GUARANTEE, more of the same BS foreign policy and hostility.
 
Otherwise great guy ...

Aside from everything he's said and done in the last 6-9 months showing what a huge douchefriggate he is, yeah, great guy.
 
Terms like "hombres" are arguably not "racist" directly so, but most certainly serve as a dog whistle for a percentage of his followers who most certainly are over the top racists.


He knows his audience, no question there.


Very true; but the statement made was Trump is a racist​. A bridge too far for me.


Maybe not. The Donald doesn't seem to fit in with the establishment at all. With Hillary it's a GUARANTEE, more of the same BS foreign policy and hostility.

The new Democrats; Obama was to bring change to US policy, clear up the war without end, bring about a new era of racial equality etc etc etc... Here we are 8 years later with triple the countries in ruins, 10 fold the drone strikes, racial tensions at a level not seen since the 60's... and people actually think this will change with Hillary? Keep picking from the same inner circle and the results will be much of the same, if not worse, regardless of party. Reagan Bush Clinton Bush Obama Clinton... same circles behind them all. The US hasn't seen any real change in governance for a very long time. Trump has upset that apple cart... that said, I still think his win is a long shot.
 
Aside from everything he's said and done in the last 6-9 months showing what a huge douchefriggate he is, yeah, great guy.

everything???

sounds deplorable..

http://www.npr.org/2016/09/10/49342...orables-in-full-context-of-this-ugly-campaign

Elitism and generalizations

Clinton's remarks, like Obama's in 2008, smacked of liberal elitism — liberals talking to liberals about a group of people they don't really know or hang out with, but feel free to opine about when talking to each other.

It's always problematic to speak in generalizations, something liberals would be the first ones to point out. At the point in which you hear yourself saying that you might begin talking in "grossly generalistic terms," it's probably best to re-think what's coming next. That's especially true when you don't have data to back up your point.

The biggest problem in Clinton's statement is that she said "half" of Trump supporters are racists, xenophobes and otherwise bigots. Half means equal or near-equal parts. There's no data to support such a specific number.
 
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If trump tactfully stuck with the "we're going to change things from top to bottom" message without all the crazy departures into name calling, conspiracy theories, thinly veilled racism, and constant doom and gloom I do believe he'd be elected today. Some actual policies that aren't illegal, against the very constitution he loves to crow about, or simply batshit crazy wouldn't have hurt either.

In short, his personality did him in. All he needed to do was act like a grown up "presidential" type guy from day 1 and given his competition he'd have walked away with it.

In the end I still am not convinced that would have been a positive, going back to his very clear lack of understanding about many things outside of his own head, but he'd have had a chance.
 
The spurious commentary continues. So you think using the word hombre makes him a racist? What about the sexism? You never bothered to reference actual current comments yourself, instead choosing to proclaim because his detractors say it's so... Funny that doesn't work for you when it's HC who's the target..

Again, they're both **** in their own ways; just pointing out the hypocrisy of it all. How the Demo's can get behind HC after everything that we've learned about the Primaries and the corruption of the DNC. Insane.
Pardon me for repeating myself, but you're repeating your irrational line of argument so you're not leaving me much choice.

Again, this question isn't about what I think. I haven't told you what I think. However you told me what you think and I asked why. Your reply that my commentary is spurious, my according-to-you opinion is invalid, and my according-to-you reasons for holding that opinion are based on bias and a lack of critical reasoning, and so on. You could be a hobo complaining that no one's dealing with the aliens all around us, and when asked "what aliens" you go on a tirade about sheeple and media conspiracies, as if that proves the existence of aliens!

My question, once again, was what has he ever done to earn forgiveness? If you're going to compare him with your example of Byrd, it's pretty self-evident that the comparison should be equivalent, and if not, it's a pretty straightforward question to ask you to demonstrate the equivalence where the comparison seems to fail.

Byrd said racist things. Trump said sexist things.
Byrd later atoned for his racism. Trump later... what did he do to atone for his sexism?

I cherish your view on my political bias and intellectual dishonesty, but it shouldn't be an excuse for you to evade answering the question.
 
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