Might disregard today, but maybe in the future a bell goes off....Nice. But probably entirely wasted on who it was intended for.
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Working from home and zoom meetings
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I agree with Lightcycle. That was a good writeup. Thanks for taking the time to make it.
So true. Every single decision maker that I impressed 10 years ago is now retired. All the decision makers I am currently working for will be retired within 10 years.
I want to dive into this but can't due to work as I'd have to write an essay.
There are two primary issues: I am very aware of ageism in this field. Most of my learning has come from devs younger than me. My standards for myself are the same for others: perform or get the **** out. Believe me when I say this causes myself as much angst as it will when I shove it on others. Also, a key trait for narcissism is that they have different standards for themselves vs everyone else.
Secondly, I tried the path you talked about for 5 years. Ended up at a shrink with intense suicidal thoughts.
So the answer to your problem is half naked characters on the wall behind you in zoom meetings?
Authenticity. And trying to create an environment where people around me don't feel afraid of being themselves.
You don't change the world by asking it to change right? You change yourself and influence those around you. I sanity check here a lot though because, as I've stated before, I don't want an echo chamber.
Forcing your fetishes on your coworkers even if you think they "like it" is not about being yourself. You can live your own life and still respect your co-workers and their work environment. This will all turn out bad for you in the future. Not growing as a person will as well.
If for mental health reasons you can't be respectful of the work environment, well maybe a new career is in order, I really don't know here other than this will only fly for so long, until it doesn't? How hard is it to have a clean or neutral wall behind you in a meeting, does such a thing really impact your mental health?
I don't think you or many others read my posts where I repeatedly said they are not in direct view of my camera.
However, if the camera glitches, there is a small portion of Cammy's ass that will come up lol. And again, the people who saw were colleagues I knew that'd get a kick out of it and they responded positively. Once this "openness" has been established, real friendships develop resulting in better work synergy. Also, said colleagues felt very free to state controversial opinions (about dev work or not) often wanting to sanity check but are afraid to due to the normality of judgmental people. This is the kind of community I want to be with for a good 33% of my life.
Also....kinda important in Western cultural because we are not homogenized (think China.)
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And you think that is OK?
Put it on the other side of the room so you can actually look at them all day long but they will never enter your professional life. Never.
Yeah. It's why I don't work for you though right? We can agree to disagree and be respectful about it as long as the work output is fine, but you don't operate that way. That's how I want myself and others to operate.
@Mattew
The most close minded folk I've interacted with are gen x and boomers. That mentality created a generation of snowflakes (aka. our current left), that are equally as close minded, this is also called a feedback loop.
Now am I going to actually paint a target on myself at work that openly? Nah, you guys are my sanity checks, and I want to hear the justifications for every opinion.
The most close minded folk I've interacted with are gen x and boomers. That mentality created a generation of snowflakes (aka. our current left), that are equally as close minded, this is also called a feedback loop.
Now am I going to actually paint a target on myself at work that openly? Nah, you guys are my sanity checks, and I want to hear the justifications for every opinion.
Again, reread what I posted, maybe a few more times. Maybe just save it for 5 or 10 years from now if you think I am wrong today or you think I am just "the man" today!
First and foremost, look at the people around you, that work with you. Note their ages and what they are doing. It is not a "boomer" thing, forced conforming to outdated society and it is not about "the man" or whatever you think it is. Also remember, this nothing new. My revelation was in my early 30s, I stood up in the office and looked around, no one over the age of 50 (and very few over 40) were doing my job in high tech.... developing soft skills and planning for the future will be key if you want one.
BTW I have a few just like you right now (and have seen hundreds over the course of my career, peers and later employees), today we try to coach them to change (some get it eventually), we put up with it as long as they produce enough, the second they don't or the BS > production they are gone. BTW what they produce must be much higher than a soft skill guy as they are not bringing as much to the table as someone with other skills that does not cause BS at work.
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Already did this. Didn't like it. Went my own way. Was literally told "we want you because of your character."
EDIT: Forgot to mention. The CTO who hired me is a 60 year old boomer and told me about how he got in **** for getting his department drunk on Thursdays =)
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CTO is not your peer BTW.... And to my point he may not always be the CTO....
As for drinking, some industries are pretty uptight about it these days but one of the soft skills I must have is the ability to drink and not make an ass of myself as drinking is a big part of making deals after hours and at conferences. In the office, special occasions still have it flowing at times but less and less and in way more moderation (some of that is being responsible but also cost as the company grew). It was out of control in 1999, "partying like dotcom and it is 1999".... 2000 sucked.
Can confirm….got bombed at a conference in Budapest….was known as the ‘Dancing Polak’ for a few years afterwards. Never got bombed again at a conference.
I pick conferences where my colleagues won’t be.
Ya…been a few years so all forgotten except for one guy. But we’re buddies now (and that particular conference helped).
Govt job doesn’t send me anywhere….
I'm aware. But this field is also known for job hopping; hell not hopping is a bit of a red flag (skill stagnation.)
I never partake in drinking at work events, and rarely drink outside of work. When asked why, my answer is "I need to push physical limits tomorrow." I know I've ****** ppl off like this but also gained the respect of others. Can't win everyone over lol
Just remember….the guys that you ****** off because they ‘couldn’t handle you being awesome’ may be the ones that are asked about you as references.
That’s the curse of the small world. Piss off some of the wrong people and **** bites you in the ass.
Even recently I’ve had a bunch of managers contact me from other departments.
‘hey, heard you worked with so and so…what was that like’
and a lot of times my answer was
‘Smart. But an ******* to everyone around them.’
Guess what…those guys don’t get the call. People want to work with smart and good people…but they prefer the good and competent over the asshat superstars.
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