Why Android is better than iPhone.

Reject the basic assumptions of civilization, especially the importance of material possessions.
 
My distaste for apple increases when they take their customers for fools and they pull shenanigans like this........

"if you own an iPhone 4 that came with Phillips screws and you take it to an Apple store for repair, Apple employees will replace the screws with the Pentalobular screws to prevent you from getting inside."

“They chose this ‘Pentalobe’ fastener specifically because it was new, guaranteeing repair tools would be both rare and expensive,” And when it comes to odd screws keeping you out of hardware, it’s most likely to get you to buy new stuff sooner."

"This move is a part of Apple’s strategic plan to increase the rate of obsolescence of their hardware,”


http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2011/01/apple-is-screwing-your-iphone/


Further proof on how the Job's machine loves the controlling environment of the sheep, er, customers who worship their product.

No thanks.

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MotoStark said:
My distaste for apple increases when they take their customers for fools and they pull shenanigans like this........

"if you own an iPhone 4 that came with Phillips screws and you take it to an Apple store for repair, Apple employees will replace the screws with the Pentalobular screws to prevent you from getting inside."

“They chose this ‘Pentalobe’ fastener specifically because it was new, guaranteeing repair tools would be both rare and expensive,” And when it comes to odd screws keeping you out of hardware, it’s most likely to get you to buy new stuff sooner."

"This move is a part of Apple’s strategic plan to increase the rate of obsolescence of their hardware,”


http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2011/01/apple-is-screwing-your-iphone/


Further proof on how the Job's machine loves the controlling environment of the sheep, er, customers who worship their product.

No thanks.

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This isn't really an issue. This would effect the 0.01% of consumers. The only reason to open your phone would be to replace the battery. Even then you would have to lose the screws and then need to change the battery again. I have owned 2 iphones over 3 years and have never had to replace the battery once. I've never heard of anyone having to replace the battery twice without getting an entirely new handset.

This has nothing to do with planned obsolescence it is just like every other phone manufacturer in which you would void your warranty by opening up the phone. At least they give out new screws as most manufacturers probably wouldn't. Go tell your manufacturer you opened up your phone and lost the parts to put it back together.

If you consider this planned obsolescence then I guess time passing is planned obsolescence. I would take the Android manufacturers coming out with 10 new handsets every month and not supporting the ones that came out 6 months previous (hello Samsung) as a better example of planned obsolescence. I gave a friend my almost 3 year old iphone 3G which runs the latest OS 4.2. Not very obsolete now is it. Now lets see an almost 3 year old Android handset running Android 2.3 without having to void their warranty by hacking the phone.

Android = Obsolete in 6 months (without voiding your warranty to hack it)
BB = Obsolete before it even hits the market. 2 year old processors and no OS updates.
iPhone = Obsolete after changing the battery twice effecting 0.01% of customers.

I know which ones I would stay away from and it isn't the iphone.
 
AdRath said:
This isn't really an issue. This would effect the 0.01% of consumers. The only reason to open your phone would be to replace the battery. Even then you would have to lose the screws and then need to change the battery again. I have owned 2 iphones over 3 years and have never had to replace the battery once. I've never heard of anyone having to replace the battery twice without getting an entirely new handset.

This has nothing to do with planned obsolescence it is just like every other phone manufacturer in which you would void your warranty by opening up the phone. At least they give out new screws as most manufacturers probably wouldn't. Go tell your manufacturer you opened up your phone and lost the parts to put it back together.

If you consider this planned obsolescence then I guess time passing is planned obsolescence. I would take the Android manufacturers coming out with 10 new handsets every month and not supporting the ones that came out 6 months previous (hello Samsung) as a better example of planned obsolescence. I gave a friend my almost 3 year old iphone 3G which runs the latest OS 4.2. Not very obsolete now is it. Now lets see an almost 3 year old Android handset running Android 2.3 without having to void their warranty by hacking the phone.

Android = Obsolete in 6 months (without voiding your warranty to hack it)
BB = Obsolete before it even hits the market. 2 year old processors and no OS updates.
iPhone = Obsolete after changing the battery twice effecting 0.01% of customers.

I know which ones I would stay away from and it isn't the iphone.
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Couple things: you misunderstood part of this. You don't have to lose the screws. If you send your phone in for service, they will replace the old phillips screws for these new pentabular ones. Even if they don't NEED to remove them for the service.

Second, a new phone coming out doesn't make the old one necessarily obsolete. Just because HTC/samsung/whoever releases a new model, doesn't make the model released 6 months ago useless.

Finally, according to gizmodo, the galaxy s will have froyo tomorrow. Late? Sure. But if that was what you were referring to with the samsung comment, it's a little off-base. [http://gizmodo.com/5739026/samsung-...eed&utm_campaign=Feed:+gizmodo/full+(Gizmodo)]
 
Mikey-D said:
Couple things: you misunderstood part of this. You don't have to lose the screws. If you send your phone in for service, they will replace the old phillips screws for these new pentabular ones. Even if they don't NEED to remove them for the service.
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Ok I did misunderstand. I thought it was only if you get replacement screws. Is that even legal? Once you buy the phone do they own the screws? I will agree that is just dumb but again its filed under not a concern for most users. Most replace their handsets due to hardware upgrade programs by carriers.

Mikey-D said:
Second, a new phone coming out doesn't make the old one necessarily obsolete. Just because HTC/samsung/whoever releases a new model, doesn't make the model released 6 months ago useless.
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When the old phones aren't supported because of the newer models in under a years time it does become an issue. Froyo is a huge one. The fact that Sony isn't even going to upgrade the xperia unless you buy the new one which isn't even released. Google is the deadbeat dad of OS's.

Mikey-D said:
Finally, according to gizmodo, the galaxy s will have froyo tomorrow. Late? Sure. But if that was what you were referring to with the samsung comment, it's a little off-base. [http://gizmodo.com/5739026/samsung-...eed&utm_campaign=Feed:+gizmodo/full+(Gizmodo)]
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That is fantastic they are finally going to get Froyo and only be one Os upgrade behind. Gingerbread has been out for a few months. Their is no excuse for new handsets to come out behind 1 generation in OS.
 
Mikey-D said:
Couple things: you misunderstood part of this. You don't have to lose the screws. If you send your phone in for service, they will replace the old phillips screws for these new pentabular ones. Even if they don't NEED to remove them for the service.

Second, a new phone coming out doesn't make the old one necessarily obsolete. Just because HTC/samsung/whoever releases a new model, doesn't make the model released 6 months ago useless.

Finally, according to gizmodo, the galaxy s will have froyo tomorrow. Late? Sure. But if that was what you were referring to with the samsung comment, it's a little off-base. [http://gizmodo.com/5739026/samsung-...eed&utm_campaign=Feed:+gizmodo/full+(Gizmodo)]
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Ok I want some confirmation on this...because IF this is true....its horsecrap and it would be illegal. Like I said I want confirmation on this.
 
AdRath said:
Ok I did misunderstand. I thought it was only if you get replacement screws. Is that even legal? Once you buy the phone do they own the screws? I will agree that is just dumb but again its filed under not a concern for most users. Most replace their handsets due to hardware upgrade programs by carriers.



When the old phones aren't supported because of the newer models in under a years time it does become an issue. Froyo is a huge one. The fact that Sony isn't even going to upgrade the xperia unless you buy the new one which isn't even released. Google is the deadbeat dad of OS's.
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Don't get me wrong: this is definitely not cool. That said, your issue is with Sony, not Google. Sony took the code, modified it, then stopped maintaining it for that device.

AdRath said:
That is fantastic they are finally going to get Froyo and only be one Os upgrade behind. Gingerbread has been out for a few months. Their is no excuse for new handsets to come out behind 1 generation in OS.
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Gingerbread has only been released a month and half or so, and as far as I know is only available on one device; the nexus s. That said, I'm running an unstable modified version of it on my phone, so it's available if you know where to look. There is a perfectly legitimate reason for them to be released with an older version (as far back as 2.2 at this point, imo). Since there is the availability of different hardware, manufacturers have to be certain that the OS will work properly on their chosen hardware. That takes time. Some go faster than others. You want the opportunity to have a phone running bleeding edge software (which some of us do), not everyone is going to be able to keep up.

Moreno636 said:
Ok I want some confirmation on this...because IF this is true....its horsecrap and it would be illegal. Like I said I want confirmation on this.
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this is the only "proof" I can offer. http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2...tm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rss I'm basing this on Ars' article.
 
MotoStark said:
"if you own an iPhone 4 that came with Phillips screws and you take it to an Apple store for repair, Apple employees will replace the screws with the Pentalobular screws to prevent you from getting inside."

“They chose this ‘Pentalobe’ fastener specifically because it was new, guaranteeing repair tools would be both rare and expensive,” And when it comes to odd screws keeping you out of hardware, it’s most likely to get you to buy new stuff sooner."

"This move is a part of Apple’s strategic plan to increase the rate of obsolescence of their hardware,”


http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2011/01/apple-is-screwing-your-iphone/
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Funny, but you quoted almost all of the article except this part:

"It’s not unusual for manufacturers to use obscure screws and strict software security on their products to prevent people from tampering with their devices."

Nice try. Thanks for playing


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Nexus S comes to Canada courtesy of Mobilicity (and maybe Bell, Telus, and Rogers, too)

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Canadians, you must chafe under the yoke of a Gingerbread-free existence no longer, for the Nexus S is coming to the Great White North sometime in March. According to Mobilicity CEO Dave Dobbin, the handset will be available on the company's AWS band, but he also said that Bell, Telus, and Rogers will carry the Nexus S as well. If true, that means Samsung will be providing another model of the phone with support for WCDMA 850 / 1900 for it to work with Canada's big three wireless providers. We can only hope that's the case, as said model would be usable on AT&T's network -- making an awful lot of us living south of Canada quite happy. Peep the video after the break to hear the good news for yourself.
 
I dont think there is an legal grounds, unless you state you wish the screws to all remain the same. If they change after that I can see having some recourse. Not a great move, but for the high majority of people, its not an issue... which doesn't make it right, but for me, it will never effect me as I never plan or want to go into my phone.
 
wonderings said:
I dont think there is an legal grounds, unless you state you wish the screws to all remain the same. If they change after that I can see having some recourse. Not a great move, but for the high majority of people, its not an issue... which doesn't make it right, but for me, it will never effect me as I never plan or want to go into my phone.
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Agreed, but I am still waiting for outside confirmation that Apple will replace your old screws with these new ones. So far all we have is the word of the guys from iFixit
 
maybe i should panic too, cause my macbook air carries the same screws. hope i can afford that screwdriver for $2.35, if i need it.
ever thought about, the pattern in the screw is better for prevention of stripping, to get inside of your expensive device.
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In your chart what they call Polydrive (5 flute) is actually Torx Plus.
 
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