Why Android is better than iPhone.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/repo...e-devices-in-global-sales-idc/article4550984/

Market Share in the 2nd quarter of 2012:

Android - 104.8 million units
Apple - 26.0 million units
Blackberry - 7.4 million units
Symbian(nokia) - 6.8 Million units
Windows - 5.4 Million units
Linux - 3.5 million units
Others - 0.1 million units


ONLY THING THAT IS FUNNY IS PEOPLE WHO STILL BUY iPHONES.


Bingo. By constantly comparing themselves to Apple, they are implicitly saying that Apple is the standard bearer to compare everything against. Very weak strategy.

And yeah, not even a giggle from me.
 
ONLY THING THAT IS FUNNY IS PEOPLE WHO STILL BUY iPHONES.

And why is that? Should I ditch my iPhone and conform to what you now think is best? I know its hard to understand, but there is more to the iPhone then just the phone itself, its not for everyone, but for many people, like myself, its a system I like that works well.
 
Kudos to them for fixing the wifi bug on the iOS6 upgrade right away...although it did seem like a simple fix according to the last "update paragraph"

http://mashable.com/2012/09/19/ios-6-upgrade-problem/

ive had a few friends complain about the size of the update though

edit) oh and i hope maps get better or that google hurries up to get their Apple maps app cause i hear lots of public transit users unhappy at the removal of google as the provider
 
Last edited:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/repo...e-devices-in-global-sales-idc/article4550984/

Market Share in the 2nd quarter of 2012:

Android - 104.8 million units
Apple - 26.0 million units
Blackberry - 7.4 million units
Symbian(nokia) - 6.8 Million units
Windows - 5.4 Million units
Linux - 3.5 million units
Others - 0.1 million units


ONLY THING THAT IS FUNNY IS PEOPLE WHO STILL BUY iPHONES.

I was going in the direction of s3 vs iphone 5, but this is interesting. Didn't realize there were that many androids in the market. Almost everyone I know has an iphone and the rest have blackberries.
 
Canadian Market is a lot different, Rim still has a market share of about 20%+++ for smartphones

38% android
29% apple
27% RIM (yeah i know wtf)

http://mobilesyrup.com/2012/09/17/i...tphone-and-tablet-market-share-rim-is-second/

Nice to get a response in this thread without the buy *insert namebrand*, or you're an idiot. For me personally the only mac product I care for are there phones. I'm sure just like in the pc world their competitors offer more flexibility and specs for the same price.

It comes down to what you want out of your phone. If you want to trick it out with all kinds of custom **** then ya, an android is probably better suited for you. I don't even bother adding oictures to my contacts or changing ringtunes, for me I just want a phone that runs smooth and is easy to use. I also don't really care for having a bigger screen, I'm content with the size of my phone right now (iphone 4s).
 
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/repo...e-devices-in-global-sales-idc/article4550984/

Market Share in the 2nd quarter of 2012:

Android - 104.8 million units
Apple - 26.0 million units
Blackberry - 7.4 million units
Symbian(nokia) - 6.8 Million units
Windows - 5.4 Million units
Linux - 3.5 million units
Others - 0.1 million units


ONLY THING THAT IS FUNNY IS PEOPLE WHO STILL BUY iPHONES.

And yet with such a small market share, Apple makes more profit on mobile than anyone else (http://www.webpronews.com/apple-samsung-take-99-of-mobile-phone-profits-2012-05) Even more amazing, they do it with effectively only one phone

I was trying to find a different quote by Jobs, but this is fitting

"Apple's market share is bigger than BMW's or Mercedes's or Porsche's in the automotive market. What's wrong with being BMW or Mercedes?"
 
Last edited:
And yet with such a small market share, Apple makes more profit on mobile than anyone else (http://www.webpronews.com/apple-samsung-take-99-of-mobile-phone-profits-2012-05) Even more amazing, they do it with effectively only one phone

I was trying to find a different quote by Jobs, but this is fitting

"Apple's market share is bigger than BMW's or Mercedes's or Porsche's in the automotive market. What's wrong with being BMW or Mercedes?"
Yup they charge a lot for their phones, it will definitely be a bigger source of profit!
Manufacturing one model and using the same design over and over again, another source of money saved.
 
Oh dear...without GOOGLE MAPS, iPhone 5 GPS is useless.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/technology/tech-news/users-say-iphone-5-maps-app-is-lost-confused/article4556815/


As such, Apple took the decision to essentially wipe out Google maps from the latest upgrade to the iOS software, on which all iPads and iPhones run.
Instead, Apple has designed its own mapping and directions applications in-house. The company promised the new service would contain many useful features, and indeed, since its release earlier this week, the Apple maps app has garnered some positive reviews for features such as turn-by-turn directions and a “flyover” mode that presents a sort of bird’s-eye view.
Unfortunately, however, most of the overall reviews have been far from positive.

Users quickly found all manner of glitches, inaccurate data and missing locations. In one instance, the Hoover Dam seemed to disappear midway across the river. Rendering errors left myriad bridges, roads and runways around the world hopelessly warped, as though they were built in close proximity to a black hole. In perhaps the most famous blunder, Apple’s new maps service put an empty space where the statue of liberty should be.
Within hours, a Web site was set up to collect all the geographic mishaps.

It is likely Apple will quickly get to work on fixing the numerous errors in its software. In anticipation of the maps app, the company has purchased several smaller mapmaking firms in recent years. Even so, Google has more than a half-decade head start on building maps software.

It is unclear whether Google will build a standalone maps app for iOS devices in the near future. This week, the company unveiled an upgrade to the version of its maps software running on Android devices. Apple users can still access Google maps through their Web browsers.
“Apple’s Maps app is the worse [sic] piece of software to ever get released from Apple,” wrote one user, a0me, on Apple’s Support Communities forum.

“I’m seriously reconsidering purchasing an iPhone 5 because of that single app, as much as it pains me to say it.” Another, dawson, wrote: “My address is the same as another in the next town and the map finds it in the wrong town no matter what town or zip code I enter. The navigation isn’t much better. Apple should be ashamed.”

One user, who described himself as a longstanding Apple customer, referred to Apple’s late co-founder Steve Jobs, saying: “I don’t believe your previous CEO would have ever permitted this application to have been released in its present form.”
 
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/repo...e-devices-in-global-sales-idc/article4550984/

Market Share in the 2nd quarter of 2012:

Android - 104.8 million units
Apple - 26.0 million units
Blackberry - 7.4 million units
Symbian(nokia) - 6.8 Million units
Windows - 5.4 Million units
Linux - 3.5 million units
Others - 0.1 million units


ONLY THING THAT IS FUNNY IS PEOPLE WHO STILL BUY iPHONES.
Yeah cause most of those android phones are free phone that the customer didn't have to pay for, apple doesn't have to give their phones away to get market share.
 
Overwhelming majority of what? I would expect the real decider of who likes what to be decided by which phone has more sales, not a single youtube video.


G3 sales figures

20 million sold in 100 days!

1 model of 1 Android phone..... never mind of the rest of the Samsung line, or even the other Android makers in the universe.

Currently the best selling smart phone on the planet!

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57507350-94/samsung-sells-20-million-galaxy-s3s-adds-new-colors/
2mryupy.png
 
Last edited:
Yeah cause most of those android phones are free phone that the customer didn't have to pay for, apple doesn't have to give their phones away to get market share.


Brilliant strategy.... get the customer hooked on Android, then whey they are ready to move up the scale, off they go.

No wonder there are about a million new Android phones fired up per day.
 
Any of you ever consider that ... what we really want is multiple players to flourish because a competitive market place means better and more rapid progression of technology, better service, and competition means that we as consumers have more choices ? So actually... we should all be grateful that there is an alternative to either of the "brand" that we prefer because without the others... neither company would be making the advancements in tech that they are making right now. In fact we should be cheering on more players into the market... so we don't get stuck with a two player oligopoly like the Rogers-Bell monopoly that we've been suffering with for so long in the Canadian service provider market. Thank you - My daily two cents on this thread - brought to you by Android on the Wind network - Go Wind Mobile!! :)
 
lets hope this stop the NFC missing factor on the iPhone 5, probably will not....but it should shut a few mouths.

http://allthingsd.com/20120919/the-...at/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

[h=1]The iPhone 5 Doesn’t Have NFC — So What?[/h]

iphone5nfc285.jpg
With last Wednesday’s Apple iPhone 5 unveiling, and the recent Nokia Lumia launch, mobile is on top of the media agenda. But as the screen size and connector stories die down, the question of “when will my mobile phone become my wallet?” rises up once again. I’ve read at least a dozen stories about the NFC-less iPhone 5 in the past few days, and my question remains, who cares?
It baffles me why almost everyone uses the terms “mobile wallet” and “digital wallet” interchangeably, and why so many people further constrain the already-limited idea of a mobile wallet by equating it with Near Field Communication (NFC).
Let me be crystal clear on these two points:

  • Your mobile phone won’t be the one device that will forever banish your leather wallet to the back of a drawer. It will, however, be an important access point to your digital wallet — which will live in the cloud and follow you wherever you go.
  • NFC is a technology, not a strategy. It enables communication between two devices that are close to each other (hence the name). It is not the Holy Grail for mobile payments.
Why mobile wallets are not digital wallets
Simply put, the term “mobile wallet” refers to when the actual mobile phone, or other mobile device, becomes the wallet. All of your financial information, such as bank account and credit card numbers, are stored on the mobile device, and you need to have the device with you for the transaction to be possible.
Digital wallets exist in the cloud. They are not tethered to one specific device such as a mobile phone, but are accessible from a variety of devices (laptop, iPad, ultrabook, Xbox, etc.) and in a number of ways. Sensitive financial information is stored in the cloud, not on the actual device.
Already, at The Home Depot, you can pay without ever pulling anything out of your pocket at all. You can pay just using your phone number and PIN that directly connects to your digital wallet. But this is just the beginning of the revolution.
For example, let’s say you’re in your car and you want to drive through the local fast food joint. Instead of whipping out your wallet or looking for your phone, you “check in” to the fast food joint’s point-of-sale system (POS) using the digital wallet accessible from your car’s connected onboard computer. The restaurant immediately recognizes you from the image transmitted when you check in, and can look at what you’ve previously bought at that restaurant via your digital wallet. It’s able to not only ask if you want “the usual” but also to deliver special offers to thank you for your loyalty.
When you pull up and get your food, no money exchanges hands — you don’t even have to tap a device against a terminal. The meal is charged to your digital wallet. This is all technically possible today.
Why NFC does not equal mobile payments
Mobile payments break into two main camps — what we call “remote” and “proximity” payments. Remote payments happen when you don’t need to be in the same room as someone else to use your mobile phone to pay for something — buying an item on the eBay mobile app for example. This is huge today.
Proximity payments are when you need to be in the same room to make the payment. There are many technologies you could use to make a proximity payment. Bluetooth, RFID, even an audio signal could initiate a mobile payment from your phone — and yes, NFC could also do this. What most people don’t realize is that NFC is not a one-size-fits-all technology. It has different modes that do different things and have different levels of security. Let me tell you about two:

  • P2P mode NFC: this is the simplest mode available and just allows a fast connection to be made between two devices. However, it just identifies and connects the two devices — the transaction happens “in the cloud” behind a secure firewall because P2P mode while easy, is not secure.
  • Secure Element NFC: This is what most people equate with mobile payments. Secure element NFC puts a safety box in your phone, which stores all your financial information. One of the problems is that the safety box can be anywhere on the phone — the hardware, SIM card, you could in theory even pop it into the battery case. All the companies that touch the phone or the customer have potential access to the secure element but they all need to work together to make an NFC payment work. This is one of the many problems that is stifling fast adoption.
No retailer will have multiple NFC boxes to take payments from different networks, and the NFC terminals shipping today do little more than just transmit the card number and transaction size. They’re not equipped to automatically accept the complex coupons and offers that make the digital wallet so exciting. On the technology side, carriers are trying one solution, phone manufacturers another, and technology companies yet another. Meanwhile, the consumer is standing at the register thinking “really, how hard is it to pull out my credit card?”
Why would Apple want to step into that mess?
In spite of the technological advances that make digital payments possible, it will not be any one technology that wins the day for either the consumer or the retailer.
Sure, the technology needs to be great, and simple, and it should get out of the way of the user. The much more critical part of the equation will be what the digital wallet will offer beyond just another way to pay. It needs to remove complexity from your life, not add to it. Those digital wallets that are able to safely store your financial information — your credit cards, airline miles, balances, etc. — plus have the ability to receive relevant and real time coupons and offers that are tailored specifically to each user, will be the ones embraced by both consumers and the brands that want to reach them.
It’s inevitable that digital wallets will become an indispensable part of consumers’ everyday lives, and one that will save them time and money. The new iPhone 5 and its competitors will surely be one of the primary vehicles people will use to access their digital wallets while on the go, but when you ask the average person what is the underlying technology used to make that connection, the answer will be “who cares?”
Relevance to the consumer will be king, and the ability to act in a seamless and secure environment across any device or platform will be what matters most to that consumer. For this vision to be truly realized it will be digital wallets, not mobile wallets, that will rule the day.
 
Can Apple new Maps App be updated?

By the sounds of it, and how people are finding major let downs....... it looks like a NO!!!!

My point of view.....Many Updates to come, and it will be the number one maps app to use, because Apple have their name on it.

But what is freaking me out, it looks like other OS users, is the ones that have a problem with it, yes iOS users are P*ss*d too, but i am pretty sure, they are browsing alternatives....and see that they can use Safari,
to add
maps.google.com
(Web App) to their home screen because the web-version of Google Maps supports transit, directions and other features.

Anyways
Google has an iOS 6 Maps app awaiting approval. It is solely up to Apple to approve.

I personally prefer to use this Map App, because it is offline too....not free, but amazing, and i have it.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/20/navigon-ios6-update/
 
Last edited:
Can Apple new Maps App be updated?

By the sounds of it, and how people are finding major let downs....... it looks like a NO!!!!

My point of view.....Many Updates to come, and it will be the number one maps app to use, because Apple have their name on it.

But what is freaking me out, it looks like other OS users, is the ones that have a problem with it, yes iOS users are P*ss*d too, but i am pretty sure, they are browsing alternatives....and see that they can use Safari,
to add
maps.google.com
(Web App) to their home screen because the web-version of Google Maps supports transit, directions and other features.

Anyways
Google has an iOS 6 Maps app awaiting approval. It is solely up to Apple to approve.

I personally prefer to use this Map App, because it is offline too....not free, but amazing, and i have it.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/20/navigon-ios6-update/
IMO the shot way too high and ended up shooting themselves in the foot (dont ask me how this imagery works)

Google went in increments, Google maps, google earth, google streetview, google earth 3d, google navigation, so they keep tweaking and have been since forever.
Apple too bits and pieces from different companies and tried to stick them together to create litterally a frankenstein
(this article made me giggle)
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/09/2...be-lost-and-in-need-of-a-maps-app/#more-83219

Of course its going to be updated THEY HAVE TO...as the app is not functional for a lot of things (places are not accurate, 3D rendering is horrible, mapping is not accurate at all (roads on water?)...
in the meantime people will stick with what they know and what is free which is the upcoming google maps app.

now lets read your brick about NFC up there ;p
EDIT) he's got a point about digi wallets... im interested to what will transpire from this :
http://www.mobilemoneycanada.com/agenda/2012
 
Last edited:
:lmao:
MyWGT.jpg
 
Any of you ever consider that ... what we really want is multiple players to flourish because a competitive market place means better and more rapid progression of technology, better service, and competition means that we as consumers have more choices ? So actually... we should all be grateful that there is an alternative to either of the "brand" that we prefer because without the others... neither company would be making the advancements in tech that they are making right now. In fact we should be cheering on more players into the market... so we don't get stuck with a two player oligopoly like the Rogers-Bell monopoly that we've been suffering with for so long in the Canadian service provider market. Thank you - My daily two cents on this thread - brought to you by Android on the Wind network - Go Wind Mobile!! :)

But then how would people feed their insecurities and try to make themselves feel better about something so insignificant?

Interesting stat, iOS6 is running on 15% of devices after 24 hours based on web traffic, Jelly Bean is at 1.5% after two months. I've said it many times before, but Google really has to figure this problem out.

http://allthingsd.com/20120920/usag...aggering-levels-on-first-day-of-availability/
 
Back
Top Bottom