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Threat to life is perceived. You can shoot a home intruder if you perceive a threat...

Frankly, I'm not sure how you WOULDN'T be in fear for your life if someone broke into your house in the middle of the night. Warn them first, if they don't back off, fire away.
 
Oh and anyone who doesn't actually see the blatant troll thread is stupid. Can't believe you dudes got baited this easily..
 
mmmnaked said:
Threat to life is perceived. You can shoot a home intruder if you perceive a threat...

Frankly, I'm not sure how you WOULDN'T be in fear for your life if someone broke into your house in the middle of the night. Warn them first, if they don't back off, fire away.
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That's what I thought. As opposed to some states where I believe you can legally shoot intruders, even traspassers, regardless of the threat level.
 
Yet, the point stands. We still aren't allowed to shoot intruders like I thought people could do in a state like Texas.
 
If I heard somebody breaking into my home, the first sound they'd hear from me would be "This place is occupied, we already called the police, please leave".. If they don't leave and keep trying to break in, I'd perceive that as a threat and they better have hearing protection for what comes next :cool:
 
Seriously guys, this is Canada. How many of you have been robbed or had someone point a gun at you?

Simple solution... Ban all guns (including police). If someone is found with a gun, they get death sentence.
 
victorbrca said:
Simple solution... Ban all guns (including police). If someone is found with a gun, they get death sentence.
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Tell that to the farmers and the people living in northern communities that need to hunt in order to supplement their diet and the people working out of bush camps :cool:
 
victorbrca said:
Seriously guys, this is Canada. How many of you have been robbed or had someone point a gun at you?

Simple solution... Ban all guns (including police). If someone is found with a gun, they get death sentence.
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What a recipe for disaster that would be: so a criminal that has a gun (likely smuggled across the border) is being confronted by unarmed police, and he knows that the punishment is death -- jeez, I wonder what he might do???!!!

It seems that most of you strong anti-gun people don't get a simple fact -- guns exist and are easy to hide and smuggle, so if guns are legislated out then only criminals have guns. The vast majority of crimes committed with guns are not committed by lawful gun owners. Outlawing guns would only make it slightly harder for a criminal to have one, but they would have confidence that no one else will so they can do they want.

I used to live in Indonesia where guns are nearly completely illegal for civilians to own. Despite that, I personally knew at least six guys that owned handguns and kept them in their glove compartments or night tables. Why? After the 1998 riots where Chinese Indonesians were raped and murdered, relatively rich Chinese Indonesians decided they needed some personal protection and they got it through the black market. As long as guns exist anywhere in the world, guns will exist everywhere in the world. The cat is out of the bag.

So... since outlawing guns would not solve the criminal aspect, but would in fact embolden it, then what is the point again? Why not allow hunters and sport shooters to enjoy their hobbies if they are not the problem?
 
mmmnaked said:
Oh and anyone who doesn't actually see the blatant troll thread is stupid. Can't believe you dudes got baited this easily..
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Yep, I tried pointing out the obvious & I was accused of calling everyone a troll

victorbrca said:
Seriously guys, this is Canada. How many of you have been robbed or had someone point a gun at you?

Simple solution... Ban all guns (including police). If someone is found with a gun, they get death sentence.
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You probably don't watch the news

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I keep hearing "home protection" as justification to own firearms.

If you're really that worried about a home invasion: STOP SELLING CRACK!
 
Yeah all these folks shouldn't have been selling crack...

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/201...lly_assaults_teen_91yearold_in_etobicoke.html

Six homes were broken into between midnight and 5 a.m. and several residents of the Stonegate-Queensway neighbourhood — including a teenager and a 91-year-old woman — were sexually assaulted.

The attacks came nearly two weeks after a masked intruder broke into three homes in a nearby area of Etobicoke and sexually assaulted two women, aged 62 and 70, in the middle of the night. Police would not say whether they believe the same suspect is involved in both cases.
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But this is Canada, I thought bad things never happened here.
 
fastar1 said:
Have you ever stopped to consider that maybe you have balls of steel?


Any pros in the house that can confirm this (having the right to shoot intruders regardless of the threat to life)?
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There is numerous cases you can look up.... including a homeowner being found innocent of killing a cop that was part of a raid on his home... that he "perceived" as being an intruder.
 
Seriously guys... My second comment was a joke... I thought most people would catch on.

Anyways, I can tell you by experience that you all have it easy, and that you are just finding excuses to own a gun. I grew up in Brazil, were you can get killed for a pair of shoes... Canada is not a dangerous place for you to need a gun.

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victorbrca said:
you are just finding excuses to own a gun. I grew up in Brazil, were you can get killed for a pair of shoes...
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Google "Loretta Lavalley"... She sure could have used such an exuse....
 
FiReSTaRT said:
Google "Loretta Lavalley"... She sure could have used such an exuse....
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Don't tell me you are afraid the same would happen to you?
 
FiReSTaRT said:
Please explain to me, what effect would putting a trigger lock on an already locked firearm have other than further infringing on a gun owner's right to defend his life and his loved ones in case of a home invasion scenario? If the gun owner decides to go "cookoo" and go on a spree killing, you think the extra 10s (which could be the difference between life and death in a home invasion scenario) would prevent a spree shooter from going on a spree? Anders Behring Breivik purchased a farm and registered it as a business in order to get enough fertilizer to make bombs. That's the sort of mentality you are dealing with. Putting a trigger lock that the owner can remove in 10s or a criminal can pop off in 20s won't prevent someone like that from hurting innocent civilians. Also, please remember the Mercaz Harav school massacre that was ended by a student, using his lawfully-obtained hunting rifle.

P.S. Murder is against the law :cool:
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This is why I proposed time delay locks. Unfortunately sone poor kid, that surely was on his way to fixing his life, will most likely get shot in a home invasion by a trigger happy Rambo. Time delay locks would save lives.

Diesel said:
What a recipe for disaster that would be: so a criminal that has a gun (likely smuggled across the border) is being confronted by unarmed police, and he knows that the punishment is death -- jeez, I wonder what he might do???!!!

It seems that most of you strong anti-gun people don't get a simple fact -- guns exist and are easy to hide and smuggle, so if guns are legislated out then only criminals have guns. The vast majority of crimes committed with guns are not committed by lawful gun owners. Outlawing guns would only make it slightly harder for a criminal to have one, but they would have confidence that no one else will so they can do they want.

I used to live in Indonesia where guns are nearly completely illegal for civilians to own. Despite that, I personally knew at least six guys that owned handguns and kept them in their glove compartments or night tables. Why? After the 1998 riots where Chinese Indonesians were raped and murdered, relatively rich Chinese Indonesians decided they needed some personal protection and they got it through the black market. As long as guns exist anywhere in the world, guns will exist everywhere in the world. The cat is out of the bag.

So... since outlawing guns would not solve the criminal aspect, but would in fact embolden it, then what is the point again? Why not allow hunters and sport shooters to enjoy their hobbies if they are not the problem?
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It's not like guns grow on a field in Columbia. They all start as legal guns. If there were no guns sold to the public in US and Canada then there would be a lot less guns in criminals and idiots hands. We should have economic sanctions against US until they do something about their guns.

FiReSTaRT said:
Tell that to the farmers and the people living in northern communities that need to hunt in order to supplement their diet and the people working out of bush camps :cool:
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Honestly, does anyone come near breaking even after paying for guns, ammo, hunting equipment, atv, pickup and gas to haul all the ****? Don't think so.


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