What would you do if this happened to you while you were riding?

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I won't have mind if a few people made a comment on her being Asian, but it seems like the focus of the whole thread is her being Asian instead of what she actually did.
 
mmmnaked said:
She's an Asian woman and she caused the accident... so I'd say the title is pretty damn accurate :lol:

For further evidence, just drive in Markham.
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Come to East york this summer, my gf is learning to drive. She has a beige corolla too. She's gonna F you up real good.

She might claim SMIDSY & get away with a few demerit points
 
This video has fail all over it, and why there are so many accidents in this city.

1) Going way too fast for that kind of traffic
2) Should have been in the right lane
3) Inexperienced driver/bad driver, he had plenty of time to switch lanes or at least pull away just enough to squeeze by, she wasn't even fully committed into the lane
4) You could see that lady squeezing in from a mile away

In my opinion, people that are involved in most accidents are equally to blame as the person that caused it in the first place because if they were aware and prepared to act, it wouldn't have happened in the first place. My buddies ex was involved in 4 accidents in less then 5 years, none were her fault....technically, she didn't cause them, but shes just as bad for allowing them to happen, and that right there is why there are so many accidents, people suck at driving already, and the ones that just sit there and watch it happen.
 
GateKeeper said:
I read your post, and basically you said he should not have accelerated that fast, he should not be in that lane, he should have moved over,. he should have done all sorts of things.....

all he needs to do is drive within the law, and if some dumb person sticks their nose into his lane, well he can try to avoid it, but other than that, he drove in a perfectly legit manner, and there really is nothing he has to change



none of what you wrote above says it was preventable, what it says is a whole lot of things he should of done, that he does not need to, and if he does follow your points, it still does not mean it would not have happened, had she stuck her car out sooner, before he was even up to speed and it was timed in a manner that no matter how quick he was, he still would have hit her.....

but saying for him to slow down, not go so fast, get in the other lane, and so on, well I see no need for any of that, I don't think he needs to move over a lane because someone will and or could and or might stick their nose out and cause this, that is just silly.....

but hey if every one moves to the right, better for me, as that would leave the left lane open and no one is going to be in front of me clear sailing....
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Driving within the law, what does that mean? The poster didn't state what the speed limit on that road was. He was travelling at (60 km/hr not 50) in a 50 or 60 km/hr zone. Increasing your speed from 50 km/hr to 60 km/hr increases your stopping distance by 40%; add to that the road was cold and moist therefore increasing stopping distance even more.

If he would have moved over to the right after the traffic light which is what I would have done he would not have been in the lane when the other driver came out and the result would not have been a collision. What do you mean (by being an active driver and) moving away from a potential problem is silly?
 
Monday morning quarterbacks, be aware that not *everyone* will fit in the right lane of a busy two-lanes-each-way road.

There's no distinction between being in the right lane at that particular place and being in the right lane at any other time. Sure, "keep right except when passing", but when the road fills up with traffic ... it fills up! Not everyone can be in the right lane ...

The OP was not in the wrong for being in the left lane at that particular time and place. If we accept that he was in the left lane at the traffic signal as a given, he would have had to accelerate harder to get further ahead of the other vehicle in order to make the lane change to the right ... and to then stop accelerating at a speed below that of normal traffic on a road like that, is a not-nice thing to do.
 
SONIC said:
4) You could see that lady squeezing in from a mile away
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I have the video frozen on my screen right now. 18 seconds in is when the nose of the Camry first pokes out from between the grey Civic and the white SUV. Between the grey Civic and the beige car in front of it, the body of the Camry is fully blocked from view.

One second later the car is fully visible with its nose halfway into the OP's lane. Around that time is when the OP hit the brakes. (One second of reaction time in this situation is not unreasonable.) Impact occurs 20 seconds into the video with the car about two-thirds-ish across the OP's lane.

I doubt if most of the Monday morning quarterbacks would have actually avoided it ...
 
In a cage it's less likely. On a bike maybe.
Chances are I'd be in the same lane as the OP. For the most part, I consider the "keep right" for highway use only.
 
Brian P said:
I have the video frozen on my screen right now. 18 seconds in is when the nose of the Camry first pokes out from between the grey Civic and the white SUV. Between the grey Civic and the beige car in front of it, the body of the Camry is fully blocked from view.

One second later the car is fully visible with its nose halfway into the OP's lane. Around that time is when the OP hit the brakes. (One second of reaction time in this situation is not unreasonable.) Impact occurs 20 seconds into the video with the car about two-thirds-ish across the OP's lane.

I doubt if most of the Monday morning quarterbacks would have actually avoided it ...
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Brah, I would have JUMPED the car OVER the Camry while putting my sunglasses on, and flipping the asian lady off.......all this would be recorded in slow motion of course
 
Brian P said:
Monday morning quarterbacks, be aware that not *everyone* will fit in the right lane of a busy two-lanes-each-way road.

There's no distinction between being in the right lane at that particular place and being in the right lane at any other time. Sure, "keep right except when passing", but when the road fills up with traffic ... it fills up! Not everyone can be in the right lane ...

The OP was not in the wrong for being in the left lane at that particular time and place. If we accept that he was in the left lane at the traffic signal as a given, he would have had to accelerate harder to get further ahead of the other vehicle in order to make the lane change to the right ... and to then stop accelerating at a speed below that of normal traffic on a road like that, is a not-nice thing to do.
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I'm not a Monday Morning Quarterback, I am a Quarterback. I teach people to drive and ride and also test them, and I work with people that have been injured in motor-vehicle collisions teaching them the skills that will hopefully prevent them from being injured again. I teach people to not be fixated with a particular lane but to rather flow from one lane to another, moving away from a potential hazardous situation.

As for the situation which we are specifically discussing, the poster could have released the pressure on the throttle, also known as coasting, something which seems to be lost on most Ontario drivers and lane change behind the Murano as there was plenty of space. Why would he have to accelerate harder than he already was?
 
OPs lane was clear as far as the eye could see. I thought he was making pretty good use of it. If you can't drive in a clear lane what's the point?
 
inreb said:
Well he's a racist ergo they race.
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The math works out.

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inreb said:
OPs lane was clear as far as the eye could see. I thought he was making pretty good use of it. If you can't drive in a clear lane what's the point?
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When the oncoming traffic is stopped in its tracks, you should be anticipating that cross-traffic may try to nose out of side streets and mall entrances while that traffic is stopped, and scan and drive ac cordingly. This video is just another example of defensive driving fail on the part of both drivers involved.
 
griff2 said:
When the oncoming traffic is stopped in its tracks, you should be anticipating that cross-traffic may try to nose out of side streets and mall entrances while that traffic is stopped, and scan and drive ac cordingly. This video is just another example of defensive driving fail on the part of both drivers involved.
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Yup
 
The Sprinter in the right lane only avoided having that semi land directly on top of it by pure luck. If the traffic jam had had the Sprinter stopped a few metres ahead ...
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