What rifle should I buy?

[FiReSTaRT]

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I don't think they have much norinco stuff. I know for sure they don't have the Norinco 1911

And they won't until somebody overturns the Clinton ban which their firearms industry will be fighting tooth and nail to prevent their market from being flooded by cheap competition. If you own a Norinco, do not try to cross the border in any way shape or form even if it's just taking a connecting flight or porting in a US port kinda thing. It's gonna get confiscated and might even get you in hot water with the ATF. All they have is stuff from before the Clinton ban and from before great improvements that Norinco made with their QC process.

 

[FiReSTaRT]

If you're at the Crappy Tire in Oromocto NB, you can get a Tavor for about 10% less than most other retailers charge..

 

[RockerGuy]

If you're at the Crappy Tire in Oromocto NB, you can get a Tavor for about 10% less than most other retailers charge..

They sell assault rifles at CT now? :shock:

 

[BusaBob]

it is a semi-automatic rifle chambered in .223 Remington which resembles a select-fire military personal machine gun (aka "assault rifle").

the item for sale is NOT an assault rifle...

...but surprised canadian tire carries them. I've noticed NONE of the canadian tires around the GTA seem to sell firearms anymore.

 

[FiReSTaRT]

it is a semi-automatic rifle chambered in .223 Remington which resembles a select-fire military personal machine gun (aka "assault rifle").

the item for sale is NOT an assault rifle...

...but surprised canadian tire carries them. I've noticed NONE of the canadian tires around the GTA seem to sell firearms anymore.

RG was kidding there - basically making fun of the way your typical uninformed person would react to the news. You are right.. It all started with the Miller Gang and their war on fun in any way, shape or form. I think the only gun store left in Toronto by the end of Miller's reign of terror was Al Flaherty's and that's because they were a fixture in an area full of rich, well-connected people. Thank God as they're a great bunch of guys The Queensway/427 Crappy Tire really missed the boat there.. Had they started carrying guns and gun stuff, the Sail store would have never opened across the street. Now they'll lose a lot of outdoor gear business.

 

[RockerGuy]

I'm genuinely surprised at ct carrying any guns. I don't think i've seen them carry firearms before. But good catch on my reaction FiReSTaRT

 

[AL3RT]

Are those fishing rods I'm seeing in the glass reflection?

 

[FiReSTaRT]

I'm genuinely surprised at ct carrying any guns. I don't think i've seen them carry firearms before. But good catch on my reaction FiReSTaRT

A whole bunch of their locations across Canada, including some in Ontario started adding gun sections recently. They are sticking with non-restricted and I don't see them going the restricted route any time soon. At least they're carrying some black rifles. It would be interesting if they started carrying Type 97's too

 

[RockerGuy]

A whole bunch of their locations across Canada, including some in Ontario started adding gun sections recently. They are sticking with non-restricted and I don't see them going the restricted route any time soon. At least they're carrying some black rifles. It would be interesting if they started carrying Type 97's too

Now my shopping at ct will be a whole lot longer

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[FiReSTaRT]

Now my shopping at ct will be a whole lot longer

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As someone on CGN mentioned, the Russian SKS rifles and the Israeli Tavors will be the only items at Crappy Tire that were not made in China

 

[BusaBob]

I'm genuinely surprised at ct carrying any guns. I don't think i've seen them carry firearms before. But good catch on my reaction FiReSTaRT

argh...missed it. sorry, I should have known you better.

 

[FiReSTaRT]

argh...missed it. sorry, I should have known you better.

For being Windy Wendy Cukier's second cousin, twice removed? (sorry, RG, couldn't resist )

 

[Red_Liner740]

Not in GTA it wont...

i went in and asked for some gun cleaning supplies, as the CTs up north carry it as well and the numbskull leaned in and whispered "like....for a real gun?? You cant get that here..." Like i just asked for crack.

Now my shopping at ct will be a whole lot longer

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[RockerGuy]

For being Windy Wendy Cukier's second cousin, twice removed? (sorry, RG, couldn't resist )

Inside joke?

Not in GTA it wont...

i went in and asked for some gun cleaning supplies, as the CTs up north carry it as well and the numbskull leaned in and whispered "like....for a real gun?? You cant get that here..." Like i just asked for crack.

I think i would've burst out laughing

 

[FiReSTaRT]

Not in GTA it wont...

i went in and asked for some gun cleaning supplies, as the CTs up north carry it as well and the numbskull leaned in and whispered "like....for a real gun?? You cant get that here..." Like i just asked for crack.

The one on Queensway/427 sells gun safes, cases, scopes, spotting scopes, trigger locks....... They missed the boat on guns as Sail opened up across the street

 

[D23]

it is a semi-automatic rifle chambered in .223 Remington which resembles a select-fire military personal machine gun (aka "assault rifle").

No it's a TAR-21. The rifle that replaced the M-16 for the IDF. It's also used by Indian SF and Peru SF/Police.

It's a 5.56 semi automatic assault rifle.

The SA made for civilian sales looks like this.

We have the 21 standard issue rifle.

 

[BusaBob]

learn something new everyday.

so the IDF's standard issue has no automatic fire?

edit: just checked wikipedia which states that the Tavor TC-21 is the civilian version, being semi-automatic. It is identical to the TAR-21 in every way except that it is semi-auto only, whereas the TAR is select fire.

regardless, my comment to rocker-dude was before i realized he was being funny. i was merely pointing out that semi-auto only civilian versions of military assault rifles are not themselves "assault rifles". i've been saying that to many, many people who did not know the difference after the sandy hook incident.

 

[D23]

learn something new everyday.

so the IDF's standard issue has no automatic fire?

edit: just checked wikipedia which states that the Tavor TC-21 is the civilian version, being semi-automatic. It is identical to the TAR-21 in every way except that it is semi-auto only, whereas the TAR is select fire.

regardless, my comment to rocker-dude was before i realized he was being funny. i was merely pointing out that semi-auto only civilian versions of military assault rifles are not themselves "assault rifles". i've been saying that to many, many people who did not know the difference after the sandy hook incident.

What does automatic fire have to do with being an assault rifle?

The SA-30 I posted is a semi auto only. It can't be modified to FA. It's not possible. The TC-21 can because it's a TAR-21. It's missing a select fire trigger group and the BCG is different. Swap them and you have a select fire assault rifle instead of a semi automatic assault rifle.

Here's the dictionary definition of the word.

Assalt weapon : any of various automatic or semiautomatic firearms; especially : assault rifle

 

[Red_Liner740]

I dunno where you found your dictionary definition but its wrong. For a rifle to be considered assault rifle it MUST have select fire capability. If it doesn't it becomes a semi auto centre fire. The fact that its black and "scary" looking does not make it an assault rifle. Btw my def is what US military's definition is.

"The U.S. Army defines assault rifles as "short, compact, selective-fire weapons that fire a cartridge intermediate in power between submachinegun and rifle cartridges."[7]"

 

[FiReSTaRT]

Most definitions of "assault rifle" include selective fire capabilities and it's just fine by me for political reasons.

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