What drives you to push yourself?

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I thought resilient was when you fall off your bike or bounce off a tree or something,
but you don't let it phase you and just keep riding.

Then you look at your injury later and go Holy **** I really did hit that thing didn't I ?
 
I have external as well as internal motivation influencers.

My family and friends for example can influence my motivation in a given direction. They can provide inspiration, wisdom, laughter, sorrow.

My internal motivators change as well.

We have pets that need us and they supply us with unconditional love and need for attention.

Having children can also affect your motivation. Being a parent, making tough choices. Having conversations about their experiences and individual choices. Providing guidance. Hoping they avoid some of the mistakes you make. Maybe stepping out of they way to make their own mistakes and see how resilient they can be. Support then if and when they need it.

Being surprised when they step up and support you when it’s not expected.

Hitting a wall can be demotivating or motivating and sometimes it’s you that makes the choice to see it one way or the other. Sometimes, it’s someone else that lifts you up pass a barrier.

Lord knows I’ve had my fair share of pitty parties for myself. Thankfully, I have a wonderful partner that allows me to have them from time to time. However, she also knows when the party is over and I see it’s time to get up and get going.

I’m glad I don’t have to face the world alone and have a strong circle of friends and family to help me.

And that includes the GTAM community.


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Trials said:
I thought resilient was when you fall off your bike or bounce off a tree or something,
but you don't let it phase you and just keep riding.

Then you look at your injury later and go Holy **** I really did hit that thing didn't I ?
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Only someone who has not read any philosophy would attempt to quantify something that is qualitative and shove that opinion down other's throats. Use your own definition for such terms. In other words, you do you. There really is no right or wrong for this stuff.
 
MY driver and motivation? Money. Then i can travel where and how i want, ride whatever bike I like, help my kids. Money.

You cant buy happy, but I've been poor and comfortable, and comfortable sucks a lot less.
 
crankcall said:
MY driver and motivation? Money. Then i can travel where and how i want, ride whatever bike I like, help my kids. Money.

You cant buy happy, but I've been poor and comfortable, and comfortable sucks a lot less.
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Honestly, I envy the simplicity of this.
 
I've found that my motivations change over time.

What motivated me in my 20s and early 30s (money and owning things) is not what motivates me now, which is owning my own time.

I think what's important is to detect if and when that change happens and not continue down the same path if your motivations do change. I believe that's when these existential and mid-life crises rear up - when you're no longer happy doing the same things you've always done because your priorities have changed.

Too many people keep going down a path laid down for them years or decades ago, paved by a younger version of themselves, who no longer resembles who they are now.
 
油井緋色 said:
Only someone who has not read any philosophy would attempt to quantify something that is qualitative and shove that opinion down other's throats. Use your own definition for such terms. In other words, you do you. There really is no right or wrong for this stuff.
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Um, you do realize, resilient also means:
(of a substance or object) able to recoil or spring back into shape after bending, stretching, or being compressed.


... what we have here is a failure to communicate.
 
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@Trials I like the idea of trials bikes, but I can't take a hit like I used to. I can hurt myself on my mountain bike for far less money. Besides, I'm dumping all my spare resources into a trimaran. Multihulls can hurt you too, but I have the experience to take the hit and still walk away

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I seen you guys on mountain bikes, you are always going over the handlebars :|
and it's short one motor.
 
Agreed,. I was always a better trail runner anyway, and an even better sailor

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Lightcycle said:
I've found that my motivations change over time.

What motivated me in my 20s and early 30s (money and owning things) is not what motivates me now, which is owning my own time.

I think what's important is to detect if and when that change happens and not continue down the same path if your motivations do change. I believe that's when these existential and mid-life crises rear up - when you're no longer happy doing the same things you've always done because your priorities have changed.

Too many people keep going down a path laid down for them years or decades ago, paved by a younger version of themselves, who no longer resembles who they are now.
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My existential crisis was really weird. Due to my childhood suffering, I believed in the western dream and values provided by a western country. I believed that if I pushed hard enough, graduated, found a job, blah blah blah I'd magically stop suffering. Heck, I remember casting away my eastern values too due to the constant racism thrown at me causing me to be ashamed of not being white.

Well, that was total ******** lol I still wake up screaming like Bruce Wayne from some of my nightmares. But hey, it seems to fit your description of why that happens.
 
Trials said:
Um, you do realize, resilient also means:
(of a substance or object) able to recoil or spring back into shape after bending, stretching, or being compressed.


... what we have here is a failure to communicate.
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No. We have a difference in academia. You're old tho so you get a pass lol

But okay let's go with the dictionary version because it's easier than explaining philosophy.

Edit: the comment you quoted was not directed at you btw. I was taking a blow at Mad Mike lol dude completely ignores the concept of sharing what makes us tick and goes off lecturing about what is what lol
 
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"I thought resilient was when you fall off your bike or bounce off a tree or something,
but you don't let it phase you and just keep riding."
the dictionary:
(of a substance or object) able to recoil or spring back into shape after bending, stretching, or being compressed.


How on gods green earth did you read so much into that to say:
"Only someone who has not read any philosophy would attempt to quantify something that is qualitative and shove that opinion down other's throats"
difference in academia yes, you don't understand humour, just chill, I'm not the enemy.
 
crankcall said:
MY driver and motivation? Money. Then i can travel where and how i want, ride whatever bike I like, help my kids. Money.

You cant buy happy, but I've been poor and comfortable, and comfortable sucks a lot less.
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Mine was recognizing the pursuit of fortune does not always bring happiness. If you can find the path of earning a decent living that provides the opportunity to live is a nice balance. I know plenty of millionaires that are miserable. Drugs, hookers, gambling. They have lots of stuff and travel but, they have no true friends, several ex-wives, distant with their kids, distrust within their circle of friends.

I climbed the corporate ladder and drank the cool aid. I realized I didn’t need to run the place to be happy and the more you climb, the more your time is absorbed in work.

I don’t earn minimum wage and I know my wife and I could earn exponentially more in other positions. We enjoy the life we have at a modest living in a modest home. But, that is just me. I know plenty of folks that wouldn’t be happy with the life I live and that is ok too.




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"Edit: the comment you quoted was not directed at you btw...."

:| then please don't make it a reply to mine. As a reply it makes zero sense.
 
I have a burning desire to obtain the long lasting gratification that comes from achieving the sorts of things that will require that push.
A chip on the shoulder can definitely be a powerful driver for that push too.
Oh and a good example of this is like sticking to a diet vs giving in and eating sht foods when you shouldn't be
 
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Firstly, the distinction between resiliance and drive is spot on IMHO. They are not the same thing, and it's (for example) why some people with privilege who haven't had to fight the same battles as others really fall apart in tough times. I recall a parable about a self-made man and a man who inherited his wealth who lost everything at the same time. The self-made man knew he did it once so he could do it again and faced up much more quickly than the other, who had to figure out how to make the journey to success for the first time.

Agreed with Lightcycle that motivation changes, dramatically and quickly. I am not the same person I was before the crash; neither are any of my motivations the same. Sometimes, things happen that just change a person. Not for better or worse, but just a change. A resiliant person can dig into their past, pull from their experiences and move forward. Not to say a less resiliant person can't; it all has to start somewhere, but it's easier if you have practice.
 
nakkers said:
Mine was recognizing the pursuit of fortune does not always bring happiness. If you can find the path of earning a decent living that provides the opportunity to live is a nice balance. I know plenty of millionaires that are miserable. Drugs, hookers, gambling. They have lots of stuff and travel but, they have no true friends, several ex-wives, distant with their kids, distrust within their circle of friends.

I climbed the corporate ladder and drank the cool aid. I realized I didn’t need to run the place to be happy and the more you climb, the more your time is absorbed in work.

I don’t earn minimum wage and I know my wife and I could earn exponentially more in other positions. We enjoy the life we have at a modest living in a modest home. But, that is just me. I know plenty of folks that wouldn’t be happy with the life I live and that is ok too.




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That's awesome, and its important that it works for you. Its balance, my CFO was 110% invested in our company, I had to sit him down and make him find a hobby not called the office.
Owning your time is a pretty good way to put it. I'm no slave to my paycheck but I like what it does for me, but I recognize that's me.

I'd say being able to understand whats works for you isn't for everybody and not preaching endlessly about how you think things need to work is step one.
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