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What did you do to your Race/Track Bike today - 2014

The most important stuff that has to do with the geometry and weight distribution of the bike - ride height, swingarm down-angle, spring rates, rider-aboard sag - you can come very close to a decent baseline setup in the shop. If the person doing the setup has dealt with that particular model before, it can come even closer. With a baseline set up, the rider has to go ride and observe what the bike is doing, and it's the tuner's job to make changes in the correct direction to address whatever the situation is. Things can change as the rider gets faster.

The clickers (damping adjustments) are a small part of it. In most cases they only adjust the low-speed damping; the higher-speed damping is established by various valves, springs, shims, etc deep inside the fork or shock, and that can only be changed by disassembly, so you had better know what effect they have.

First geometry, then spring rates, then suspension travel, then damping.

I've seen riders (and tuners) try to cover up the real problem (wrong spring rates) by playing with damping, oil level, etc. The problem won't go away until you fix the real problem (by changing the springs). I've seen riders (and tuners) try to cover up the real problem (wrong geometry - wrong swingarm down-angle a.k.a. wrong swingarm pivot height) by playing with other stuff. It doesn't work.

And by NO means do I claim to be one to nail the perfect setup straight out of the box nor always pin down exactly what the problem is when something is wrong. On my race bike (that I've owned for 17 years but on which I changed wheel and tire sizes last year), I'm on take 3 of "change rear spring rate". Track-day pace, practice pace, no issue. Race pace, the carousel at Grand Bend destroys the rear tire and the shock-travel-indicating O-ring on the shock is indicating that I've used all the travel. Latest spring rate hasn't been validated in dry-weather conditions yet ...

Exactly

My spring rates were right on, in regards to Geometry Dave had installed the Yoshimura +2mm swingarm pivot which helps with some of the geometry issues on the 2006 GSXR 1000.

The idea was to give me a good base to start from - He also gave me some tips on what to do once i got on track and felt the bike doing certain things.

The last thing you want is to go on track completely off and spend most of your day working on suspension when you could have gone in with a pretty good setup and just do a couple of improvements as the day goes by.

I did 3 rounds last year with the suspension completely off, spend a lot of time trying to work on it and it seems i just made it worse and completely lost confidence on the bike and my season end up a disaster, so getting a guy like Sherrard that not only knows suspension but also knows all our tracks, to me was a no brainer
 
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Yay I have brakes again
Gave in and got the Motion Pro, eh?
 
I got a Motoholders subframe and fairing stay
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Powder coated them white to match the rest of the bike
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Installed
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I also got a map switch for my PC
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Thats pretty much it for me, besides getting some dyno tuning and 2 maps made in the spring. Also going to relocate my rectifier under the under tray, and strip the wiring harness of all unnecessary wiring for headlights, tail lights, signals etc. And Im looking for a billet quick throttle kit, want Kawasaki kit but cant seem to find a supplier, so I might just have to go with Active or Accassato
 
I also got a map switch for my PC
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Just curious why didn't you install the map switch on the left side? it will be hard to switch maps while on full throttle etc, the left hand is always a lot less busy.
 
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Just curious why didn't you install the map switch on the left side? it will be hard to switch maps while on full throttle etc, the left hand is always a lot less busy.

The left side already has my traction control button hanging off it.

Map switch is for pump gas vs race fuel. So I won't be changing it on the fly anyways

I do stunt riding also my left hand is normally operating a clutch lever with my index finger and a hand bake with my middle finger. Both at the same time so Brake throttle and map switch control at the same time shouldn't be a problem
 
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Bike got a full tear-down for clean/inspect. Forks are on their way to Z1 to get some Traxxion AK20 cartridges, heavier springs, and some other goodies installed.
 
Bought some brake parts cleaner spray and a new axle nut socket. That's about it.
 
Forks are on their way to Z1 to get some Traxxion AK20 cartridges

I predict you will love them. Mine give a huge range of damping adjustment (from loosey goosey to near hydraulic lock). I installed them myself along with the springs they recommended, set the preload adjusters where they suggested, and the sag was correct to within a mm or so just based on their calculations. The guys know what they are doing. Excellent service over the phone too if you run into any setup trouble and need advice. I have run them for something like 8 years now with only oil changes and they are still perfect.
 
Good to hear. Nothing but positive reviews on that setup so far so I'm looking forward to trying them out.
 
what's a set of those AK's worth?
I'd like to improve the 929's front end, but can't afford JS's time.
 
I gave mine a stablemate...

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Also dropped off 5gal of U4.4 to Pro6 so that they can finish the tune on the new motor in my GSX-R 1000. Not a cheap fix. :(
 
what's a set of those AK's worth?
I'd like to improve the 929's front end, but can't afford JS's time.

You can install them yourself. Here is a long writeup I did in 2008 detailing the installation on my bike:

http://www.ducati.ms/forums/77-sport-classic/40883-puttin-ak-20-report-no-question.html

The cartridges, springs etc themselves were about $1200, but it varies by bike and they have also made some improvements to them over the years. Just call and ask. To do the installation you will definitely want the special tools they offer (about $120).
 
what's a set of those AK's worth?
I'd like to improve the 929's front end, but can't afford JS's time.

Does Ohlins offer a piston kit for the 929? One of those with the correct springs (if you need to change) would be about $1000 less than an Ohlins cartridge kit with springs. They worked pretty well for me.
 

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