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What constitutes a full stop?

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There hasn't been a time requirement to stops since I joined the Force/Service in 1976.
Most people, from my conversations have no idea if they actually stopped or not, hence the number of rolling stops.
Feet have nothing to do with stops, unless you are one of the Flintstones.
When the wheels stop moving forward, the veh is stopped. That was the evidence I used in court.
Feet, traffic, the colour of the car are window-dressing.
 
What I question is why is this even up for debate? A 'stop' is a stop is a STOP! Whether your feet are up or if you are standing on your head whilst doing so, bring on the ****ing judge that wants to try to wreck my day by debating whether the style of how my wheels stopped moving fits into their interpretation of a full stop. A STOP is a STOP! It sure ain't rocket science.

That being said, if I look to my left and see a cop sitting there waiting to inflict a cheap shot, I'm gonna put a foot or two down and maybe count to 2 at least. Why tempt fate in a constabulary world of injustice just looking for a place to exercise a BS charge?
 
I can't believe this discussion is still going on.

Foot down isn't a requirement, a full stop is.

End of story.

If you want to put a foot down because you know cops use that as a proxy to determine a full stop, by all means, but the HTA doesn't require it. Thats all!
 
A lawyer runs a stop sign and gets pulled over by a Sheriffs Deputy. He thinks that he is smarter than the Deputy because he is sure that he has a better education. He decides to prove this to himself and have some fun at the deputies expense.

Deputy says, "License and registration, please."

Lawyer says, "What for?"

Deputy says, "You didn't come to a complete stop at the stop sign"

Lawyer says, "I slowed down, and no one was coming."

Deputy says, "You still didn't come to a complete stop. License and registration, please."

Lawyer says, "What's the difference?"

Deputy says, "The difference is you have to come to a complete stop, that's the law. License and registration, please!"

Lawyer says, "If you can show me the legal difference between slow down and stop, I'll give you my license and registration and you give me the ticket, if not you let me go and no ticket."

Deputy says, "Exit your vehicle, sir."

At this point, the deputy takes out his nightstick and starts beating the ever-loving snot out of the lawyer and says "Do you want me to stop or just slow down?"
 
I remember seeing a comedian do the same joke, but changed it up as having the deputy being played by Jack Nicholson.
 
dropgear said:
i push with my foot until i roll backwards. seriously. then i know i've had zero velocity at some point.
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Ya, this is a good idea. Hard to argue that you came to a complete stop if you actually moved backwards.

As for both feet on the ground, I think some will argue that you should have your right foot still on the brake.
 
Yea.. I know its a repost... but so is this damm topic....

So here you go, complete stop

[video=youtube;GeqPgeCvSCQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeqPgeCvSCQ[/video]
 
eightyeightfifty said:
The way I see it, as long as your tires stop completely moving, and the way is clear, you can proceed; foot up or down. Your foot is just for balance, if you don't need it, then don't put it down. You don't see guys on trikes lowering their foot do ya?
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You are correct. All that needs to take place is for there to be no forward momentum. The problem is if their is a cop sitting at the opposite corner. How is he to know/see if you actually had no forward momentum? So people can do this others can't. Why take the chance. Drop your foot for 1 or 2 seconds and be safe. This also allows you the time to look left,right left or right, left, right to ensure no dumbass is running his stop sign.
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