black06r6
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on and off ramps are right hand turns. roundabouts are left
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What are your limits taking on ramps?
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on and off ramps are right hand turns. roundabouts are left
Hit a roundabout today, felt very weird...then I realized it was because I was turning left!
lator-illa
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Not gonna lie...I hit on-ramps as practice runs from time to time as i've never been to the track. Not sure how fast i'm going as I don't look at the speedo but feel like I am pushing it quite hard. When I do decide to do these kinds of runs, I wear full gear (leather pants + leather jacket) and hit ramps that are familiar to me.
And left turns...there aren't very many in the city are there? Where is this roundabout?
And left turns...there aren't very many in the city are there? Where is this roundabout?
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Why bother telling people to take it to the track?
They will not.
Besides the time and money involved most ppl that ride in this city probably do not watch MotoGp or racing much less have any idea of the three tracks close to the GTA.
They bought a bike to have fun and keep up with their friends. As they ride they feel that they have gotten better and well you know how the story goes from here.
Supersport riders here prefer to spend $400 on a slip on instead of $400 at a track day or advanced riding school e.g. Racer5 or Fast Riding School.
They will not.
Besides the time and money involved most ppl that ride in this city probably do not watch MotoGp or racing much less have any idea of the three tracks close to the GTA.
They bought a bike to have fun and keep up with their friends. As they ride they feel that they have gotten better and well you know how the story goes from here.
Supersport riders here prefer to spend $400 on a slip on instead of $400 at a track day or advanced riding school e.g. Racer5 or Fast Riding School.
It's based upon how quickly I can get to zero from my current speed, if there were a threshing machine around the curve where I can't see it.
http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/c...14th+Street+Glenmore+Trail/8790235/story.html
http://kitchener.ctvnews.ca/motorcy...nd-ramp-on-highway-403-in-brantford-1.1387231
Somebody has flipped over the 427 to Gardiner Eastbound ramp more than once as well.
It is always best to save the track stuff for the track, and leave the flying to Superman.
Edit: took the Gardiner to South Kingsway ramp one day and a tractor trailer was backing up the ramp, he would have made a fine pulp of me if I'd been at any kind of speed. There's all kinds of stupid situations that happen on the road, that don't happen on the track, and you just have to allow for them.
That's why the limits on ramps are as low as they are.
http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/c...14th+Street+Glenmore+Trail/8790235/story.html
http://kitchener.ctvnews.ca/motorcy...nd-ramp-on-highway-403-in-brantford-1.1387231
Somebody has flipped over the 427 to Gardiner Eastbound ramp more than once as well.
It is always best to save the track stuff for the track, and leave the flying to Superman.
Edit: took the Gardiner to South Kingsway ramp one day and a tractor trailer was backing up the ramp, he would have made a fine pulp of me if I'd been at any kind of speed. There's all kinds of stupid situations that happen on the road, that don't happen on the track, and you just have to allow for them.
That's why the limits on ramps are as low as they are.
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I definitely agree that any wild stuff should be left on the track.
I just want to clarify my initial post maybe I am giving the wrong impression of asking people's fastest on ramp speed. What I am actually trying to get at is whether 15 to 30 km/h above is still considered relatively safe or perhaps its way too high or perhaps you could go higher. Obviously, different road condition, tires, weather, traffic and lots of factor will dictate acceptability. For a given ramp, if its raining, of course I am going to take it easy and go below the recommended limit, let say stated 30km/h, I will enter at about 20km/h or less. But normal condition and with a clear view of entry and mid point and no vehicles ahead, the same ramp, I might enter at 50 to 60. Before track days, even given perfect condition, I would stick to 30km/h as entry point. But after my track experience, I am much more comfortable taking it in much higher entry speed. If it was on the track for a similar turn, I would probably go in around 100 or so but on the street, I limit that at 60. I still feel comfortable at that speed. However, having said that, if a raccoon runs out, I don't think I could avoid it. But even at the stated 30, if a racoon runs out right in front of you, I'd probably hit it too. But falling from 60 versus 30 probably makes a huge difference. If that were to occur, definitely slower the better.
I just want to clarify my initial post maybe I am giving the wrong impression of asking people's fastest on ramp speed. What I am actually trying to get at is whether 15 to 30 km/h above is still considered relatively safe or perhaps its way too high or perhaps you could go higher. Obviously, different road condition, tires, weather, traffic and lots of factor will dictate acceptability. For a given ramp, if its raining, of course I am going to take it easy and go below the recommended limit, let say stated 30km/h, I will enter at about 20km/h or less. But normal condition and with a clear view of entry and mid point and no vehicles ahead, the same ramp, I might enter at 50 to 60. Before track days, even given perfect condition, I would stick to 30km/h as entry point. But after my track experience, I am much more comfortable taking it in much higher entry speed. If it was on the track for a similar turn, I would probably go in around 100 or so but on the street, I limit that at 60. I still feel comfortable at that speed. However, having said that, if a raccoon runs out, I don't think I could avoid it. But even at the stated 30, if a racoon runs out right in front of you, I'd probably hit it too. But falling from 60 versus 30 probably makes a huge difference. If that were to occur, definitely slower the better.
Some ramps can be taken at just over 100, some 120, some 80. It depends on the ramp and rider's balls
A ramp at 60 is pretty much just above car traffic speed. Haven't done it for a long time
Ramps are ok if they are on your route but you seem to be thinking too much about them, you seem young, spend your riding energy in more productive stuff.
Do them at the speed your skill level allows you to while you feel comfortable, my speed is definitely not your speed neither is no one else
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R6EXY
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Please elaborate on the bold section, thanks.
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It depends on your skill and the ramp itself, so it's hard to say what any particular speed any particular rider would be okay at.
You shouldn't be looking at your speedo during the ramp anyways, as that is a sure way to get off line.
For what it's worth, I don't like to push limits on the street (too many variables), but I've grown comfortable doing the lawrence ramps at about 75 to 80 kmph....a little slower going in, a little faster coming out.
this video on youtube keeps me in check though (warning, somewhat graphic):
[video=youtube;4yPf-bnIUxI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yPf-bnIUxI[/video]
You shouldn't be looking at your speedo during the ramp anyways, as that is a sure way to get off line.
For what it's worth, I don't like to push limits on the street (too many variables), but I've grown comfortable doing the lawrence ramps at about 75 to 80 kmph....a little slower going in, a little faster coming out.
this video on youtube keeps me in check though (warning, somewhat graphic):
[video=youtube;4yPf-bnIUxI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yPf-bnIUxI[/video]
gs500f
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Low side at approx 60-70 km/hr. what caused it...? Animals that don't like to cross at their designated crossing point.....
surnamemarc
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i just go the speed limit on ramps. Yeah I'm a cookie-puss, but having skin is awesome 
Posting the stuff you highlighted in detail on a public forum is not a good idea.
@BusaBob oh man that video is brutal...
rbjeepthing
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Double the yellow sign isn't really pushing it on most ramps...
zeniceguy
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ramping is fun 100% but **** can happin.
me and another guy were out one night ramping, tires hot and 2 decent riders. got off the highway and had a nee down on the off ramp. when we went to get back on the on ramp (it was dark) we hit some deisle and both went down only doing 10 over.
me and another guy were out one night ramping, tires hot and 2 decent riders. got off the highway and had a nee down on the off ramp. when we went to get back on the on ramp (it was dark) we hit some deisle and both went down only doing 10 over.
sonyminidiscman
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i believe 90-100 is max i've hit a ramp. but only on hot day with clear skies...
Yes, I heard about this tragedy and actually referred to it on my initial post. From what I heard, he is quite experience and done track as well. No one knows how fast he was going, could be double or triple posted yellow or it could be at spee# limit or maybe just a little over, who knows. However, some had mentioned they had fallen quite unexpectedly with just a little over posted.
Thanks for everyone's feedback, despite being more comfortable going much faster than posted ramp speed, I think I will take a more prudent approach and go in at posted instead of going over. None of my riding buddies fell from ramping and their entry speed is much higher but that doesn't mean it will not happen eventually.
What prompted my post is that one guy said as long as you keep it below 3x posted and you are comfortable with the speed that should be fine. But even if you can do 4 or 5 x the posted confidently, that would be too dangerous according to him. Again, this guy hasn't gone down yet, may have a different view when he does.
On ramps are the only way to get rid of that chicken strip on Ontario roads lol
At a couple good on ramps I'm able to scrape the knee with my suit on. I've worked on my proper body position and believe in my tires. Obviosly I don't do it every time. But that body position is the key. Lead with your head, shoulder down, 1/2 *** off, stick that knee out ect.
I ride with some yahoo's sometimes that can lean on ramps pretty damn good but these guys only rely on their tires, you don't even see them getting their 1/2 of *** off their sadle or right knee out. Absolutely wrong body position, it kills me. And I really don't wanna see them fail.
At a couple good on ramps I'm able to scrape the knee with my suit on. I've worked on my proper body position and believe in my tires. Obviosly I don't do it every time. But that body position is the key. Lead with your head, shoulder down, 1/2 *** off, stick that knee out ect.
I ride with some yahoo's sometimes that can lean on ramps pretty damn good but these guys only rely on their tires, you don't even see them getting their 1/2 of *** off their sadle or right knee out. Absolutely wrong body position, it kills me. And I really don't wanna see them fail.
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