Franchis are good as others have mentioned but I have only really seen and heard feedback on their shotguns.
I would recommend going with the Savage as aftermarket and parts are more readily available and that is a tried and tested platform.
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I would recommend going with the Savage as aftermarket and parts are more readily available and that is a tried and tested platform.
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Sorry just busting your hump. I get it that #7 to #9 shot in steel probably wouldn't have the energy to puncture a child's balloon at any yardage much less smoke a clay.
Have a personal regret to spreading a few hundred pounds of lead shot one ounce at a time over prime agricultural land while practicing on clay.
The wife says that I'm getting sensitive in my old age.
Dont feel too bad. They'll add 4" of topsoil and throw a subdivision there. Theres at least one subdivision in ontario downrange from a club that must have tons of lead on it but it was never brought up as an issue when developed. You could hear the shot falling like rain in the field before it was built.
For the sake of irony , our club , The Hamilton Gun Club is a shotgun only , clay target club. Its now in its third location. 1st in 1880 something it was actually on hamilton harbour and you shot out over the end of the bay, well the rowers and fisherman did not dig that. Not a lead over water issue, more a , Hey that stings issue. So it moves to Barton st near what is now Centennial , since that was the middle of now where (still is) , and the city caught up , So up onto the escarpment in 1910 or so , bought 100 acres for somnething like $2K , when the farm next door came up bought that 80 acres so we would have no issues. Slowly hyway twenty is expanding out towards us. I hope they stay till I'm gone , but money talks
Are members owners? If someone walks up with an eight or nine figure cheque, who benefits?
Thanks, I'll likely take your advice. I've also been waiting for the new Beretta A300 Ultima Patrol to hit Canada to play with but there's no word if/when it will. May pick up a Mossberg 940 Pro instead.
Great point. Hunting guns typically see few rounds overall and ammo cost/wear and tear reflect that. Target guns on the other hand can see thousands of rounds in a short time.
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Crews work to rescue swan possibly suffering from lead poisoning in Brampton, Ont.
Brampton firefighters and members of the Toronto Wildlife Centre crawled and chipped their way across a frozen pond on Monday in an effort to save a swan in distress.
toronto.ctvnews.ca
RE: Lead
This isn’t a “whatabout” as lead is undeniably very toxic but this puts things into perspective a little..
This is a puff piece but it has some good background in it about leaded gas and the legacy of that..
grist.org
One part is pretty striking regarding the US.
“Vehicles using leaded gasoline deposited an estimated 4-5 million tons of lead in the environment across the country before the phase-out was completed.”
This is a puff piece but it has some good background in it about leaded gas and the legacy of that..
Leaded gasoline is finally gone – but its toxic legacy lingers
As of this week, lead has been phased out of all gasoline globally.
grist.org
One part is pretty striking regarding the US.
“Vehicles using leaded gasoline deposited an estimated 4-5 million tons of lead in the environment across the country before the phase-out was completed.”
Leaded gas is still available for planes and they burn a lot of it. For better or worse, they nornally don't follow tightly defined routes so it spreads out instead of concentrating in small areas adjacent to corridors. It would be interesting to see soil tests around ga airports, ranges and land away from either.This isn’t a “whatabout” as lead is undeniably very toxic but this puts things into perspective a little..
This is a puff piece but it has some good background in it about leaded gas and the legacy of that..
Leaded gasoline is finally gone – but its toxic legacy lingers
As of this week, lead has been phased out of all gasoline globally.
One part is pretty striking regarding the US.
“Vehicles using leaded gasoline deposited an estimated 4-5 million tons of lead in the environment across the country before the phase-out was completed.”
This came home with me yesterday , I love the grade IV wood on the stock . Should be death to clay targets ( or not) . Because I already use a Browning 725 for skeet , I now have a trap gun that can be a backup for skeet in a pinch and chokes ect interchange .
Told my wife we are actually saving money here ….lol
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12k gold plated and you get three of them in the box , the cross hatched grip, a smooth, and an offset for right handed shooters ( since its a right handed gun) . It is pretty stylish LOL .
for a lark I took it skeet shooting this morning , 32" barrels are a cannon for skeet , but I shot a 22 out of 25 with it opening round and I havent set it up yet, then shot a 24 with my regular gun followed by a 22 and 21 round . The 25 score is still alluding me this month but it gives one reason to go back. And avoid the office.
for a lark I took it skeet shooting this morning , 32" barrels are a cannon for skeet , but I shot a 22 out of 25 with it opening round and I havent set it up yet, then shot a 24 with my regular gun followed by a 22 and 21 round . The 25 score is still alluding me this month but it gives one reason to go back. And avoid the office.
It’s a very nice looking gun. I’m going to delve a bit more into clays this summer and I’m hoping I don’t get bitten by the bug otherwise it could be an expensive year. My Beretta 1301 comp will do just fine to begin with but I’m aware of it’s limitations when it comes to clay smashing.
I’ll see if someone at the club will teach me how to run the fancy automatic voice activated clay set up. You pay a set fee for the actual clays and it’s not too bad at all.
I’ll see if someone at the club will teach me how to run the fancy automatic voice activated clay set up. You pay a set fee for the actual clays and it’s not too bad at all.
A friend used to pull for a club when we were growing up. He got something like one or two cents per pull. He was voice activated too.
Clays is a bit like golf , a good shooter can borrow your average gun and out shoot you , like you canadian tire driver being swung by a good golfer goes further than you ever hit . Clays are technical and repetitive actions , a better gun helps but time shooting helps more .
Guy in our group brings his duck gun as a warmup for duck season, hits clays just fine .
We have voice activated for trap , if your using that system which is easy , you do not speak while on the line of shooters , your “ hey Harry” can set off the activator beside you and buddy looses a target , you become “ that guy” . We have remote control for skeet , one guy pushes the button, for completions both systems can be used with a wired control and the Marshall will pull , there is never a miss pull which can happen with voice and remotes . 98% of the time we use remotes for skeet and voice for trap.
There is a lot of etiquette in clays , it’s all based on safety so just do it . Never load a shell until it’s your turn and your standing on the shooting station. If your shooting singles you load ONE shell , doesn’t matter your taking two shots from the same station , no shortcuts . Always carry your gun broken or action open. Never close a gun until your on station. There is no talking while someone else is shooting.
If you get into it , remember you’ll spend thousands more on ammo than the gun . And a 16 thousand Krieghoff won’t hit any more targets than a 3k browning, it’s like telling time with a watch , Tissot and Rolex both tell time , one looks more stylish doing it . That said , a $1500 Canuck will get shot out , when the 5k browning is just getting broken in . Duck hunting youll shoot 25 shells pre season, trap you’ll shoot 75 on Saturday . Guns wear out .
I’ve had a lot of various sport in my life , I think skeet shooting may be one of the most supportive groups and welcoming I’ve seen. Lots of coaching and tips while your shooting if you open to it , everyone wants to grow the sport and it’s a helpful bunch . I have yet to meet the ego that is annoying in other sport .
Even the guys with 30k guns are quite happy to shoot with guys that brought a duck gun, as long as your following safety etiquette.
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Guy in our group brings his duck gun as a warmup for duck season, hits clays just fine .
We have voice activated for trap , if your using that system which is easy , you do not speak while on the line of shooters , your “ hey Harry” can set off the activator beside you and buddy looses a target , you become “ that guy” . We have remote control for skeet , one guy pushes the button, for completions both systems can be used with a wired control and the Marshall will pull , there is never a miss pull which can happen with voice and remotes . 98% of the time we use remotes for skeet and voice for trap.
There is a lot of etiquette in clays , it’s all based on safety so just do it . Never load a shell until it’s your turn and your standing on the shooting station. If your shooting singles you load ONE shell , doesn’t matter your taking two shots from the same station , no shortcuts . Always carry your gun broken or action open. Never close a gun until your on station. There is no talking while someone else is shooting.
If you get into it , remember you’ll spend thousands more on ammo than the gun . And a 16 thousand Krieghoff won’t hit any more targets than a 3k browning, it’s like telling time with a watch , Tissot and Rolex both tell time , one looks more stylish doing it . That said , a $1500 Canuck will get shot out , when the 5k browning is just getting broken in . Duck hunting youll shoot 25 shells pre season, trap you’ll shoot 75 on Saturday . Guns wear out .
I’ve had a lot of various sport in my life , I think skeet shooting may be one of the most supportive groups and welcoming I’ve seen. Lots of coaching and tips while your shooting if you open to it , everyone wants to grow the sport and it’s a helpful bunch . I have yet to meet the ego that is annoying in other sport .
Even the guys with 30k guns are quite happy to shoot with guys that brought a duck gun, as long as your following safety etiquette.
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I’ve shot clays a few times and they’ve always been eager to teach and help out a newbie.
