Nakkers, i'd bet a dollar at least one of your tail lights doesn't work right.
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VW deisel?? wtf...
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I said this was coming. Everyone said "nah, it's just VW.".
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/10/02/volkswagen-emissions-industry-idUSL5N1204LF20151002
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/10/02/volkswagen-emissions-industry-idUSL5N1204LF20151002
Interesting. Only 2 peak HP loss. Significant low end torque loss.
http://wot.motortrend.com/volkswagen_jetta_tdi_dyno_reveals_lower_power_in_test_mode_wvideo.html
http://wot.motortrend.com/volkswagen_jetta_tdi_dyno_reveals_lower_power_in_test_mode_wvideo.html
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VW is still working out the bugs on the update. Should be ready to ship to dealers in a few weeks.
I laughed so hard at this for a good 20mins to point of crying. I haven't laughed so hard in years lol lol thanks for that.
It caught me off guard after reading all those serious articles posted lol
I'm not sure if I missed the explanation but I assume that if the VW engine was stripped down to a long block (Complete engine minus the bolt on bits) It wouldn't be all that different than the other manufacturer's engines in the same size range. Pistons go up and down in cylinders with valves at the top and crank at the bottom.
Why does theirs need an elusive emissions control system when the other don't?
Or have the others found the same solution?
Why does theirs need an elusive emissions control system when the other don't?
Or have the others found the same solution?
It is my understanding that in that generation of diesels, most (all?) of the others used urea to clean up the emissions. The others all wondered how VW got a pass without it. Current gen TDI's have urea injection (the tank for which eliminates independent rear suspension on the golf).
This is why I wasn't surprised at all when they got caught. I've been wondering for years why everyone except VW needed the diesel fluid.
Comments on the paperwork for anything other that VW: "Visible smoke at idle. Fail."I got a gif of me doing emission testing...
Since this is a VW: "Nah, looks fine."
Until recently, that is.
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looks like TDI ontario owners may get their cars yanked off the road.....
http://www.thespec.com/news-story/5...rs-could-be-forced-off-road-without-clean-up/
http://www.thespec.com/news-story/5...rs-could-be-forced-off-road-without-clean-up/
... but only if, after VW eventually comes up with an official fix, owners fail to bring their vehicle in and have it repaired before their license plate is up for renewal. It's not a problem until such time as that official fix becomes an official recall ... and my understanding is that this could be some time away.
The people who won't like this, are the people who have tampered with or removed the original emission controls.
Or the people who bought their VeeDub because they want 1000km+ on a tank of fuel. If the "fix" for the emissions problem results in a big reduction in fuel mileage I'd bet there will be a lot of owners who don't want their cars to be "fixed"
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I would bet that 99% of owners will not want that kind of a fix to their cars .... If the fix is to only remove the "defeat" code, that would be one thing, but you can bet that before they OK the fix they will drive the crap of the car in all conditions and make sure it fully complies. Why would I be interested in that kind of an extreme fix, if by now we know that there's many many cars on the road not complying in real life driving.
This is where the class action lawsuits will come in. VW actively deceived the EPA and their customers.
The gov't also stated that if the cars don't pass the emissions / don't get their 'fix' from VW they will not renew license plates for the affected vehicles. So the gov't will FORCE VW owners to get this fix done.
EDIT: I'm sure there will also be aftermarket kits to undo whatever the 'fix' is. And a lot of drivers may want to revert back to the original configuration.
That's no different penalty than for the rest of us. You fail emissions, you get no license.
The difference is that an extra layer of verification will need to be added for VW diesels because the original calibration which was assumed to meet standards is now known not to. When the fix eventually rolls around, emissions tests will have to include a test that ensures the fix is in place, and then they can once again assume the emissions system is designed to meet standards and do the rest of the test just like they always have.
The Liberal nannies of Ontario, of course didn't disappoint. Quickly on the band wagon and make rather the consumers pay and quickly ..... http://www.thestar.com/news/queensp...ould-be-forced-off-road-without-clean-up.html
The very grey area will be "minimize inconvenience to owners" .... to the lady who was crying weeks ago on TV that she cannot even look at her car now because it's not the "clean diesel" she thought she was buying, it will mean something totally else when compared to the vast majority of sensible TDI owners/enthusiast. When liberals say "minimize inconvenience to owners" somehow I know it will cost the owners dearly whether in form of resale value, mileage or horsepower.
The very grey area will be "minimize inconvenience to owners" .... to the lady who was crying weeks ago on TV that she cannot even look at her car now because it's not the "clean diesel" she thought she was buying, it will mean something totally else when compared to the vast majority of sensible TDI owners/enthusiast. When liberals say "minimize inconvenience to owners" somehow I know it will cost the owners dearly whether in form of resale value, mileage or horsepower.
It's really much easier than you or liberal government think it is .... LOL .... that's why the hypocrisy of EPA, Drive Clean is just what it is. It had to be a bunch of students driving a car with a probe in the pipe around to prove that barely any car would pass they dreamed up emission limits in real life application.
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