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Used bike buying help?

DemonPig said:
Yeah dude, way overpriced, pig of a bike. I bought a '97 CBR900RR for $1500 or something like that not that long ago and that IMO is a better bike than that Kawi, lighter too.
For $3,000 get something newer and better handling.
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honduhmatic said:
Any bike from that era isn't competitive with a current 600, but... I do have a thing for those '90s bikes.

Just that the first gen ZX-9 isn't a very good one.... the Thunderace, Fireblade, GSX-R 1100 and the later ZX-9's were better.

Now, are any of those bikes good starter bikes... lol no. For a budget of $3k there are some nice first gen SV650's on kijiji, those would be way better.
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Please show me

KarGo said:
Some guy just put this up.. http://toronto.kijiji.ca/c-cars-veh...Custom-zx9-r-sell-or-trade-W0QQAdIdZ468147538
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Im not interested in a bike that doens't have ownership/titles
 
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djay230 said:
Im not interested in a bike that doens't have ownership/titles
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He's got the uvip, wouldn't be too hard to get an ownership but not many people would be willing to put in the work in = offer him a crazy low price because of the no ownership and you could get a steal of a bike.

I try and buy cars and bikes with liens showing on them because I know how easy they are to remove, and I get crazy deals on em :D

-Jamie M.
 
check the date code on the tires....

I bought my bike with great tire treads and after looking at the date code they were 10years old...

$550 later it handled like a completely different machine
 
Bikes that I'd look at instead in the $3-4k range:

1st gen SV650 - Carbed but light, low seat height, have a good following:

http://ontario.kijiji.ca/c-cars-veh...01-Suzuki-SV-with-upgrades-W0QQAdIdZ466337488
http://ontario.kijiji.ca/c-cars-veh...t-bikes-2002-Suzuki-SV650S-W0QQAdIdZ461825570

2nd gen SV650 - Fuel injected, a bit more popular, harder to find for under $5k:

http://ontario.kijiji.ca/c-cars-veh...SV650S-first-3400-takes-it-W0QQAdIdZ430063516

Kawasaki Ninja 500 - light, 60hp, a bit dated-looking but does everything well:

http://ontario.kijiji.ca/c-cars-veh...2004-Kawasaki-Ninja-EX-500-W0QQAdIdZ449324790

Ninja 650 - Replacement for Ninja 500, fuel injected, similar to the SV650:

http://ontario.kijiji.ca/c-cars-veh...s-2006-Kawasaki-Ninja-650R-W0QQAdIdZ465891704

Yamaha YZF600 - an old sport bike that turned into a sport touring bike, great reviews, but can fall under sport insurance:

http://ontario.kijiji.ca/c-cars-veh...006-Yamaha-YZF-R-600cc-RED-W0QQAdIdZ467296975
http://ontario.kijiji.ca/c-cars-veh...-bikes-2004-Yamaha-YZF-600-W0QQAdIdZ455224563

Suzuki Bandit 600 - my first bike, slower and heavier but comfty and cheaper than SV's:

http://ontario.kijiji.ca/c-cars-veh...t-bikes-2003-Suzuki-Bandit-W0QQAdIdZ461877039

Honda F4/F4i - A supersport bike but from what I've heard, more comfortable and beginner-friendly. The F4i was injected and a little improved, but more $$$:

http://ontario.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-motorcycles-sport-bikes-2003-Honda-CBR-W0QQAdIdZ449977697

Yamaha FZ6 - Similar to an SV or a Bandit, Fuel injected, detuned R6 motor:

http://ontario.kijiji.ca/c-cars-veh...05-Yamaha-FZ6-Deal-Pending-W0QQAdIdZ465511389


Important Points:

  • If you get serious, get insurance quotes. Especially with sportier bikes (F4, YZF), sometimes they fall under supersport insurance and can cost twice as much to insure. I wanted to buy a YZF600R but didn't because of the surcharge.
    • If you're really stuck on a supersport bike, State Farm is more competitive for them.
  • Save up for the following very important gear:
    • Leather Gloves with gauntlets;
    • A good helmet (look up the UK Sharp Helmet Tests)
    • A good jacket, preferably leather with protective pads;
    • Full-length boots with ankle support;
    • Pants, preferably leather with padding.
  • If you really want to ride a supersport bike, and ride it well, save for a track course or get some books. Here's some good books:
    • A Twist of the Wrist;
    • A Twist of the Wrist II;
    • Sport Riding Techniques by Nick Ienatsch
 
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honduhmatic said:
Bikes that I'd look at instead in the $3-4k range:

1st gen SV650 - Carbed but light, low seat height, have a good following:

http://ontario.kijiji.ca/c-cars-veh...01-Suzuki-SV-with-upgrades-W0QQAdIdZ466337488
http://ontario.kijiji.ca/c-cars-veh...t-bikes-2002-Suzuki-SV650S-W0QQAdIdZ461825570

2nd gen SV650 - Fuel injected, a bit more popular, harder to find for under $5k:

http://ontario.kijiji.ca/c-cars-veh...SV650S-first-3400-takes-it-W0QQAdIdZ430063516

Kawasaki Ninja 500 - light, 60hp, a bit dated-looking but does everything well:

http://ontario.kijiji.ca/c-cars-veh...2004-Kawasaki-Ninja-EX-500-W0QQAdIdZ449324790

Ninja 650 - Replacement for Ninja 500, fuel injected, similar to the SV650:

http://ontario.kijiji.ca/c-cars-veh...s-2006-Kawasaki-Ninja-650R-W0QQAdIdZ465891704

Yamaha YZF600 - an old sport bike that turned into a sport touring bike, great reviews, but can fall under sport insurance:

http://ontario.kijiji.ca/c-cars-veh...006-Yamaha-YZF-R-600cc-RED-W0QQAdIdZ467296975
http://ontario.kijiji.ca/c-cars-veh...-bikes-2004-Yamaha-YZF-600-W0QQAdIdZ455224563

Suzuki Bandit 600 - my first bike, slower and heavier but comfty and cheaper than SV's:

http://ontario.kijiji.ca/c-cars-veh...t-bikes-2003-Suzuki-Bandit-W0QQAdIdZ461877039

Honda F4/F4i - A supersport bike but from what I've heard, more comfortable and beginner-friendly. The F4i was injected and a little improved, but more $$$:

http://ontario.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-motorcycles-sport-bikes-2003-Honda-CBR-W0QQAdIdZ449977697

Yamaha FZ6 - Similar to an SV or a Bandit, Fuel injected, detuned R6 motor:

http://ontario.kijiji.ca/c-cars-veh...05-Yamaha-FZ6-Deal-Pending-W0QQAdIdZ465511389
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great bikes, not in my price range
 
There's a few SV's and Ninja 500's for $3k, and some Bandit 600's for $3500.

You know that kijiji has price/location search filters... right?

Anyways, do whatever you like... I just wanted to plant the seed that you really shouldn't be on an old, high-mileage, possibly f'ed up ZX-9 as your first bike.
 
djay230 said:
great bikes, not in my price range
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Not sure if you are trolling or looking for a bike for real.
All those bikes are in your range, you bargain to get them. Learn how to negotiate, all sellers are flexible. Even if it says price is firm, if you have a wad of cash in your hand they will sell.

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After reading the legal age to bike motorcycle thread. This guy is like 16 lol
Plans to buy a bike most likely for posing. Riding is not about the engine size, even a 50cc scooter will keep me smiling all day.
 
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if you are under 25, you're likely looking at upwards of $2500/yr for insuring a 600cc+ bike. Just something to keep in mind along with your budget for an SS.
 
KarGo said:
Not sure if you are trolling or looking for a bike for real.
All those bikes are in your range, you bargain to get them. Learn how to negotiate, all sellers are flexible. Even if it says price is firm, if you have a wad of cash in your hand they will sell.

*Edit
After reading the legal age to bike motorcycle thread. This guy is like 16 lol
Plans to buy a bike most likely for posing. Riding is not about the engine size, even a 50cc scooter will keep me smiling all day.
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Those bikes including tax, registration, safety/diagnoses will be way over my budget. Im eighteen this year and theres no shame in admitting it. I was uneducated in the laws of registering a bike because service ontario doesn't seem to pick up their phone as well as my brother telling me otherwise. Don't see why you're getting intrigued that someone has a motorcycle question on a motorcycle forum.
I guess we have different passions for riding then, it's a great thing everyone is different in this world.

Green Machine said:
buy this one, prob get it for less than asking and insurance is good on these http://toronto.kijiji.ca/c-cars-veh...ing-2003-Suzuki-GSX-Katana-W0QQAdIdZ468462521
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Thanks for the suggestion, messaged seller.

honduhmatic said:
Important Points:

  • If you get serious, get insurance quotes. Especially with sportier bikes (F4, YZF), sometimes they fall under supersport insurance and can cost twice as much to insure. I wanted to buy a YZF600R but didn't because of the surcharge.
    • If you're really stuck on a supersport bike, State Farm is more competitive for them.
  • Save up for the following very important gear:
    • Leather Gloves with gauntlets;
    • A good helmet (look up the UK Sharp Helmet Tests)
    • A good jacket, preferably leather with protective pads;
    • Full-length boots with ankle support;
    • Pants, preferably leather with padding.
  • If you really want to ride a supersport bike, and ride it well, save for a track course or get some books. Here's some good books:
    • A Twist of the Wrist;
    • A Twist of the Wrist II;
    • Sport Riding Techniques by Nick Ienatsch
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Thanks for the points, will take a look at the books and talk to my insurance company. Won't be cheap but if you love something you'll do what it takes.

Already gearing up, any advice on helmet brands in particular? Specific jackets?

I've been looking to get a Shoei helmet and a leather jacket. Some gloves with armour on the knuckles aswell.




p.s Not replying to any useless answers on this thread, don't have time to argue with the keyboard Einstein's of this forum. However if you do have real answers they will gladly be replied to. Thanks.
 
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djay230 said:
Those bikes including tax, registration, safety/diagnoses will be way over my budget. Im eighteen this year and theres no shame in admitting it. I was uneducated in the laws of registering a bike because service ontario doesn't seem to pick up their phone as well as my brother telling me otherwise. Don't see why you're getting intrigued that someone has a motorcycle question on a motorcycle forum.
I guess we have different passions for riding then, it's a great thing everyone is different in this world.



Thanks for the suggestion, messaged seller.
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Stop being a joker... zx9 and 18yo do not mix. Myself being 18 when I started last year could guarantee your premiums will significantly be over $10 000/yr for full coverage. (I got quoted for a R6 - TD)

Good luck with whatever you do.
 
KarGo said:
Stop being a joker... zx9 and 18yo do not mix. Myself being 18 when I started last year could guarantee your premiums will significantly be over $10 000/yr for full coverage. (I got quoted for a R6 - TD)

Good luck with whatever you do.
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Clearly he knows better.

Doesn't want to pony up another 1K for a better bike, meanwhile he'll be paying 5,000+ for insurance if he's lucky to find it.

As for gear you're going all wrong about it. Don't pick a helmet based on looks, pick one based on what fits your head. $1500 helmet is useless if it doesn't fit right.

Shoei for egg heads
Arai for melon heads :lmao:

go try em on, just call your insurance company before you do any of this
 
Nobody is trying to argue with you, but you being only 18, and most of us being much older, and more experienced in everything, are trying to help you out, and you really are not making much sense if that a certain bike is too much but your willing to pay an astronomical amount for insurance. You seem to be getting upset with some of our comments, and they are only being made because we are all trying to guide you in the right direction and yes you do sound like you know what you want, but some of the things you have said have obviously put up flags. But whatever, most of us don't care either way what you do.
As for that Katana, nice bike, but still going to cost you a fortune in insurance, **** a Ninja 250 is going to cost you a fortune. But since you seem to have more money to spend on insurance than you do on a bike and gear, have fun. :)
 
Jay72 said:
Nobody is trying to argue with you, but you being only 18, and most of us being much older, and more experienced in everything, are trying to help you out, and you really are not making much sense if that a certain bike is too much but your willing to pay an astronomical amount for insurance. You seem to be getting upset with some of our comments, and they are only being made because we are all trying to guide you in the right direction and yes you do sound like you know what you want, but some of the things you have said have obviously put up flags. But whatever, most of us don't care either way what you do.
As for that Katana, nice bike, but still going to cost you a fortune in insurance, **** a Ninja 250 is going to cost you a fortune. But since you seem to have more money to spend on insurance than you do on a bike and gear, have fun. :)
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Great opinion!
 
I've only read your initial post so I'm not sure what info you are getting, but depending on how old it is, I advise grabbing a compression tool and test each cylinder to see if its in spec. Only if the bike is over 15k do I think this is very necessary
 
junk301 said:
I've only read your initial post so I'm not sure what info you are getting, but depending on how old it is, I advise grabbing a compression tool and test each cylinder to see if its in spec. Only if the bike is over 15k do I think this is very necessary
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Thanks, probably going to get a mechanic to check it out before I buy it anyways.
 
I'm happy to offer advice, but I do expect you to get off your duff and use Kijijij search to find the bikes yourself.

Unless you have other (questionable?) plans for insurance, I bet that will be the limiting factor for insurance. It's also why most people your age start on CBR125's and Ninja 250's and there's no shame in that. Personally, I started in my late 20's with a 600 sport-tourer, both of which helped with insurance (not that it was cheap!)

Anyways, good luck.
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