A Sara Palin fan? That explains EVERYTHING.
LOL the sound of her voice actually matched what came out of her butt. And she had the cheesy grin to back it up.
Ukraine anyone?
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LOL the sound of her voice actually matched what came out of her butt. And she had the cheesy grin to back it up.
100% correct. I hope they'll avoid a civil war fuelled by the West's hypocrisy and economic interests. I still remember what happened in Yugoslavia in the 90's. If the Russians manage to avoid an all out war and keep their interests in Ukraine(Crimea region which has historically been Russian territory to begin with), it'll teach the Americans and Western powers a good lesson.
This is still happening all over the world and I mean almost everywhere. Americans and the West operate in the exact same manner, but they're much better at playing the PR game(media) and manipulating the masses. The Russians are have a more straightforward, no bs approach.
This is one way to do it.
The other way is special interests(think lobby groups funded by big corp) and big money which fund(bribes, other means) the political campaigns of North American politicians(US/Canada) and get their people in top key positions(US presidency included), which in turn end up serving their true masters.
This is the other way, which is more widely accepted and very efficient.
Absolutely nothing. Except for the Chinese, there isn't anyone on this planet who could afford to mess with the Russians and the Chinese care about Ukraine almost as much as they care about which brand of chain lube I'm using. So we (Canada/US/EU) may hew, haw, huff and puff, but in the end, the Russians are gonna do what they have to do (bare minimum as they don't wanna be involved in a messy war or in shedding Ukrainian blood if it can be avoided), and all we (the regular people) can do is to pray that the situation stays nice and neat.
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A Sara Palin fan? That explains EVERYTHING.
That's what you got out of it?
Is see you're upholding your pro-intellectual approach......
Snobike Mike
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Oh, I am.
By reading an article about Obama and Romney and then picking out the name Palin? Yup, that's pro-intellectual for sure....
Why isn't Obama doing anything about the Ukraine? He said he would, in fact they are legally obligated to protect the Ukraines border by some agreement they signed 50 or so years ago, so where is your US Hope and Change strong country leader?
Russia gave 12hrs to Ukrainian troops to disarm/exit Crimea, while Donetsk and Odessa also raised a Russian flag and asked for aid from Russia.
US Navy is approaching to enter Black Sea through Istanbul. Chinese guvernment puts pressure on Turkish PM to not allow anyone through, just as Turkey didn't allow China in 19xx.
US Navy is approaching to enter Black Sea through Istanbul. Chinese guvernment puts pressure on Turkish PM to not allow anyone through, just as Turkey didn't allow China in 19xx.
Well it all started in 862 when a number of states formed a loose association called Kievan Rus........
its actually very hard to put this into a nut shell type thing because there is tops of cultural history behind it. But basically Ukraine had a revolution kicked out its pro Russian leader and then Russia invaded the pro Russian autonomous region of Chrimea to protect its military interests and under the guise of protecting the ethic russian population that are there from the old ussr days.
Don't forget the part where the regime now in control of Kiev is full of fascist's and white supremacists and Jewish Clergy are urging ay Jews in the Ukraine to get the hell out ASAP. My wife is a native Russian speaker and the difference between what is being reported in the western media and Russian language media (not just Russian media, but russian language media in countries outside Russia) is staggering.
so like Russia then... you think they would get along better
Not like Russia at all, there are very close ties between Israel and Russia. No doubt there are fascist idiots in Russia (just like here), but the country as a whole is not.
Considering past tensions, and how many ultra-nationalist Ukrainians would love nothing more than to eradicate Russians from their country, to me it's absolutely fundamental that Putin would wanna ensure the safety of his own people in the region.
The most violent and vocal parties in the recent protests have been members and supporters of Svoboda and Pravy Sektor. These people hate Russians, and they have now proven their power. It's naive to think that events would unfold peacefully without Russian military intervention in the region.
I wonder why they would hate Russians so much?
Past tensions.
People tend to hate eachother, does it make a difference? The facts are simple: fiercely anti-Russian parties have proven that they can violently overthrow a government. They have also in the recent past proven their ability to get the votes and full control of various local governments within Ukraine. As such, it's not difficult to imagine what a Ukraine under their leadership would mean for Ukrainians who label themselves ethnic Russians.
I'm not picking a side, I'm merely stating facts... Putin sent troops there to not only protect military interests, but also to protect his own people. History has been down this path before and much blood was spilled in very similar circumstances. He isn't staging an offensive, he won't (can't) take over Ukraine.
