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oomis said:
That DOT tires will work better, I don't disagree. I think the real question is will a noob benefit from the DOT tires, or will I be riding well within the envelope of the street tires?
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Depends on how quick you are. I've ridden once on the track with street tires after already riding on DOT race tires, didn't like it at all. I wasn't even using warmers on the DOTs, loosing heat and probably wasting some money on tires but never felt like I didn't have grip or confidence in my rubber. Try riding on street tires first and see where your at.
 
003's are good and can be had for cheap (even new). And yes your SV will easily shred rears (especially if you're new and not carrying much speed through corners as you'll likely be even harder on the gas when it opens up). Also as stated, watch out for dragging your rear when gearing down (it's going to happen with all that torque and no slipper).
 
oomis said:
That DOT tires will work better, I don't disagree. I think the real question is will a noob benefit from the DOT tires, or will I be riding well within the envelope of the street tires?
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It is hard to say, without knowing how hard you ride. How big are the chicken strips on your street bike tires? If you touch down knees on onramps they you will be quick enough (cornering hard) to keep heat. If you have never cornered hard. Then street tires work. Just my 2 cents.
 
gsxr guy said:
It is hard to say, without knowing how hard you ride. How big are the chicken strips on your street bike tires? If you touch down knees on onramps they you will be quick enough (cornering hard) to keep heat. If you have never cornered hard. Then street tires work. Just my 2 cents.
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Oh Boy!! where is the popcorn.. lol
 
Shaman said:
The "racers" who haven't been on street tires in years are trying to make themselves look better by suggesting that if you can't keep the optimum temperature in the race tires (like them, by inference), they won't be better than the street tires. Disregard. DOT race tires will pretty much always work better on the track than street tires.
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Oh, is that what I was doing? I thought I was just stating a simple fact.

Sorry.
 
Yeah, except you weren't, really. This is the same forum that brought us the opinions "people who do track days for fun are wasting their time," "if you aren't riding at 100% your best during a track day and working to get a lap record, then you are wasting your time," "if you aren't racing then you're just wasting your time," "if you aren't racing, then racing tires aren't worth the money for track days," and in this thread "if you aren't as fast as a pro racer, then you are kidding yourself and should stay on street tires because you won't be able to get the best lap times the tires are capable of."

What next... "why even bother riding bikes at all... come watch me race in SOAR instead...?"

Actually I bet I could find that on here if I looked hard enough.
 
Hmm is it too early to have popcorn? Maybe just no butter.

Forget the winter, this race season is going to be awesome! It's going to be like NASCAR with all the attitude and none of the boring racing! Leave your gloves at the registration booth ladies!
 
If what I write is going to be read so inaccurately perhaps I should avoid sharing what I know all together from now on.
 
Shaman said:
What next... "why even bother riding bikes at all... come watch me race in SOAR instead...?"
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You would probably learn a lot more by watching him or a lot of other SOAR racers than rambling on the internet about who knows more about tires.....
 
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Hey caboose, shamen said he could beat you on a ninja 250!


Hey shamen, caboose said you couldn't beat him if he was riding a scooter with Dunlop softs with 30 laps on them.

















:)
 
Nobody ever seems to mention tire pressures, which arguably (perfect for this forum) makes a bigger difference than the tire type itself. If someone comes out with their nice new race tires, on warmers, and runs them at 36psi front, 42psi rear cold, they will certainly crash. I ran middle of the red group for a long time on supersport street tires, running 30/30 cold. Managed 1:01's on Nelson without any problems using Bridgestone BT010's.
 
Mr.Azim said:
You would probably learn a lot more by watching him or a lot of other SOAR racers than rambling on the internet about who knows more about tires.....
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I'm thinking... no. If nothing else, "track days aren't racing" would apply, amirite?

Anyway, there seems to be a consensus that BT-003s would make a good tire for the guy. Maybe we can leave it there?
 
doozerdave said:
Nobody ever seems to mention tire pressures, which arguably (perfect for this forum) makes a bigger difference than the tire type itself.
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That or the right suspension set up for the tire or track.
 
doozerdave said:
Nobody ever seems to mention tire pressures, which arguably (perfect for this forum) makes a bigger difference than the tire type itself. If someone comes out with their nice new race tires, on warmers, and runs them at 36psi front, 42psi rear cold, they will certainly crash. I ran middle of the red group for a long time on supersport street tires, running 30/30 cold. Managed 1:01's on Nelson without any problems using Bridgestone BT010's.
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You know what's funny... this summer I forgot to check the tires after Sandy changed them out for me at Calabogie and went out on the track with something like 36/40 in the tires cold. The bike has never turned so well, but it dragged the rear into corners bad (yes I use rear brake), didn't slow me down at all but it sure made the bike feel loose on the brakes. Then I had the rear step out through corner one in fifth gear with the throttle and clued in that I should throw away a few laps and come in before something untoward happened... actually I thought of Wingboy's crash.
 
Suspension *setup* should come first. Lots of guys win amateur races with stock suspension.

That being said, there's very little suspension adjustment to be had with a SV 1000. It'll need some work to be quick.
 
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