Toronto anti-Uber protest - These TO taxi drivers are #@$%!!!!

This isn't about sense, it's about cents.

Don't like the money you make? Get another job. Simple. Whether it be Uber or Little Caesars, you are an adult take your pick.
 
This isn't about sense, it's about cents.

Don't like the money you make? Get another job. Simple. Whether it be Uber or Little Caesars, you are an adult take your pick.
Agreed!
When I lost my job in 2008, I didn't hold the city hostage or block emergency vehicles. I evolved & get into another field.
 
Agreed!
When I lost my job in 2008, I didn't hold the city hostage or block emergency vehicles. I evolved & get into another field.

I was trying to think of other businesses / jobs that have been largely displaced by technology / changing times.

Off the top of my head

Video rental stores
Small camera stores
One hour photo
Phone booth industry
Gas station attendants
Milkmen
Tim Horton bakers (Comes frozen now)

On the weird side I 'm guessing our hangman had to move to the USA along with the electric chair manufacturers. (Were electric chairs CSA approved?)
Blacksmithing is apparently healthy
 
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Broadcast has lost thousands of jobs over the last couple of years due to changing CRTC regs and viewer habits.
 
Broadcast has lost thousands of jobs over the last couple of years due to changing CRTC regs and viewer habits.

Have any of those jobs found their way to the online alternatives that are now available?
Netflix? Youtube Channels? Hulu? Amazon? etc?
 
Have any of those jobs found their way to the online alternatives that are now available?
Netflix? Youtube Channels? Hulu? Amazon? etc?

I left broadcast to form my own company (www.framefarmmedia.com) and hit the branded video content and corporate market. The broadcasters are no longer the gatekeepers to eyeballs so ad agencies are moving their money towards online alternatives for more impact. The industry needs to adapt and until the slow telco giants sort out new monetization it will be a mess. Freelance and contract to contract is the new normal. Few steady staff positions anymore. The hustle of running your own business sure has been a shock over the past year. Sourcing clients is an art I struggle with but I am learning as I go. I'm happiest when I'm just working and not dealing with business.
 
^^ Cool.

A segment greatly impacted in the last decade is print. Newspaper and Magazines...they are hurting badly and those who havent switched partially or fully to online content are or going to be extinct soon.
 
question....do Uber drivers have to get extra insurance or something?....you know...tell the insurance companies they are using their personal vehicle as a commercial vehicle....something like that

sorry, I'm a little behind the times
 
question....do Uber drivers have to get extra insurance or something?....you know...tell the insurance companies they are using their personal vehicle as a commercial vehicle....something like that

sorry, I'm a little behind the times

And there's the issue; no one is talking. Uber claims to have some blanket policy, but I haven't heard of anyone seeing it, or being able to take advantage of it. Some insurance companies are have created / are creating special ride sharing policies. Do Uber drivers actually buy the extra insurance that's required in order to operate such a business? I'd say that's about as likely as them declaring the income to the government.
 
And there's the issue; no one is talking. Uber claims to have some blanket policy, but I haven't heard of anyone seeing it, or being able to take advantage of it. Some insurance companies are have created / are creating special ride sharing policies. Do Uber drivers actually buy the extra insurance that's required in order to operate such a business? I'd say that's about as likely as them declaring the income to the government.

This sums up my thoughts as well. Is Uber 'legal' from a proper taxi standpoint? Ok - it's a cool app and a cheaper ride in a nicer car, but if people (riders or drivers) are going to be financially crippled if things go bump, something needs to be done.

I certainly get corporately they're playing fast & loose with taxation - and with no $ being registered with CRA, it'd be pretty easy to be 'employed' tax free (yeah yeah tax fraud risk - I get it).
 
Yes the drivers for Uber are supposed to get commercial insurace policy but my guess most don't. That being said an Uber passenger that is injured in an Uber car can only go after the vehicle owner for liability and accident benefits. If that driver has no commercial insurance the passenger is out of luck. Under Ontario law they can not sue Uber as Uber does not own the vehicle so Uber has no liability in this case. Uber says they will protect their drivers but I already know from past cases they basically tell the driver "well we told you you need to get proper insurance" but you did not so sorry driver too bad.

The sad thing is Uber tells drivers you need to do this and that but they don't verify it's done. Uber knows full well that they can't be held liable when something happens in an Uber car because all they are is a technology company that hooks up passengers with drivers lol!

Uber takes the money and runs with it but is not accountable in any way when something happens in the car driving you. Buyer beware because the passenger will end up with the short end of the stick in this case.

Now on the other hand taxis have commrcial insurance, have safety inspection twice per year, pay taxes and the passenger is fully protected.
 
Now on the other hand taxis have commrcial insurance, have safety inspection twice per year, pay taxes and the passenger is fully protected.

I'm guessing at least half of those safeties are rubber stamp/pay-to-play, because nearly every taxi I've gotten in to the rear end/bearings were howling like banshees.
 
I'm guessing at least half of those safeties are rubber stamp/pay-to-play, because nearly every taxi I've gotten in to the rear end/bearings were howling like banshees.

Most taxi companies have their own shops with their own ability to self-issue safeties.

I'm confident they never abuse the privledge. Said nobody. Ever.
 
Most taxi companies have their own shops with their own ability to self-issue safeties.

I'm confident they never abuse the privledge. Said nobody. Ever.

Just like I'm confident that the guy behind the wheel of a taxi is the same guy who is on the hack license, owns the plate, carries the insurance..... said me, never.
 
...Now on the other hand taxis have commrcial insurance, have safety inspection twice per year, pay taxes and the passenger is fully protected.

yes because i am sure that in the event of a problem, the passenger will have no worries, no concerns, no discussion over liability and indemnification...
 
I'm guessing at least half of those safeties are rubber stamp/pay-to-play, because nearly every taxi I've gotten in to the rear end/bearings were howling like banshees.
Yea lol. Uber cars have a mandatory anual inspection and in isn't a rubber stamp, I know that for a fact
 
Yea lol. Uber cars have a mandatory anual inspection and in isn't a rubber stamp, I know that for a fact

I know for a fact that an actual Ontario MTO safety is not required and know for a fact an uber driver can have anyone sign the form and Uber has know way of knowing either way
 
You are incorrect. Not currently at least.

Uber has contracted an independent Canadian Company to perform those inspections exclusively, I work for that company and I have seen the inspection form and it is comprehensive. The ok is not given until the entire inspection result is passed. The independent company makes more money by finding items that need to be fixed so it isn't in their best interest to "look the other way". Uber drivers have to go to this company or they do not become an uber driver.

I by the way was impressed with the level of due diligence on Uber's part, they could have just allow the drives to get their own mechanics to perform the inspection but they wanted consistency across the country, that to me shows good business practices.

I don't take taxis or Uber, even when I travel I park my car in the airport as I hate to rely on others so I am just offering impartial information to this conversation.

I understand this affects you livelihood and I do feel bad for that but like i said before, something should have been done in the past, you guys should have gone out and demonstrated against the current "license plate owner" format, but instead you were ok with passing the cost to the public so now unfortunately you are paying for your lack of action, that is how I see it.

I know for a fact that an actual Ontario MTO safety is not required and know for a fact an uber driver can have anyone sign the form and Uber has know way of knowing either way
 
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