To be masked or not to be masked
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@Baggsy TL;DR...give us the coles notes version....please and thank you....
Pre-omicron infection isn't very good at protecting against BA4/BA5, but infection with omicron and later strains give decent protection against it.
ifiddles
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Will be interesting to watch how this plays out once kiddos are back in school next week...I'll be masking up for the short term at least, and reevaluate after Christmas break...
www.cp24.com
Ontario scraps mandatory five-day isolation rules for people with COVID-19
Ontario has scrapped its mandatory five-day isolation rule for individuals who test positive for COVID-19 as part of an “all respiratory virus approach” to an expected rise in general illnesses when the fall arrives.
www.cp24.com
Don't know if it was arrogance, ignorance, or fatigue, but the Ottawa VIA train station had everyone mask up as you came in, if you weren't, someone was over right away asking you to. Montreal was much more relaxed. More than half the the people didn't bother. People I saw got on the train and rode with masks around their chins, for most of the trip. One couple did buy a beer. The train attendant never asked them to mask up.
If it's a stupid rule, scrap it, if it's a smart rule, enforce it.
Winter is coming.
If it's a stupid rule, scrap it, if it's a smart rule, enforce it.
Winter is coming.
I have a cancer survivor friend that has to travel by train from Ottawa to Montreal for therapy. I think we're walking a greased tightrope.
justride
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Ontario's top doctor to recommend masking in public amid children's hospital crisis
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Ontario’s top doctor ‘strongly’ recommends masks, Alberta premier says don’t panic
TORONTO - Ontario’s chief medical officer of health strongly recommended Monday that residents wear masks in indoor public settings to protect childre...
Ontario currently over capacity with pediatric ICU beds, new data shows
Ontario over capacity with pediatric ICU beds: new data
Last week, Ontario Health directed hospitals to accept children 14-plus who need critical care to ease the burden on pediatric facilities.
toronto.citynews.ca
DownUnder
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Ontario's top doctor to recommend masking in public amid children's hospital crisis
Ontario’s top doctor ‘strongly’ recommends masks, Alberta premier says don’t panic
TORONTO - Ontario’s chief medical officer of health strongly recommended Monday that residents wear masks in indoor public settings to protect childre...www.thestar.com
Ontario currently over capacity with pediatric ICU beds, new data shows
Ontario over capacity with pediatric ICU beds: new data
Last week, Ontario Health directed hospitals to accept children 14-plus who need critical care to ease the burden on pediatric facilities.
I'm positive most of those cases, especially the under 5yo are there because of the kids tylanol/advil shortage. If parents have no way of treating the symptoms and getting their kids temperatures down they end up in hospital. I'd like to see a plan to restock the supply and also an answer as to why there has been a shortage for over a month now in the first place.
It feels like a manufactured crisis.
At least partly related to labeling stupidity as feds require bilingual labels so we cant just bring in a bunch from US. Stupidity at its finest.
There's a massive shipment that was supposed to come in from Australia. But that was only for hospitals IIRC.
Personally....every time I go into a Walmart / Shoppers / any pharmacy or grocer I walk over to the pharmacy and ask for a package. 7/10 times they have something. I have a buddy bringing me a few from the US as he was there (although the dosages are diff so I need to adjust) but overall we've been fairly well prepared.
But yes, total bullcrap that we are at this stage. This should be one of those things (like vaccines) that should NEVER be allowed to get to this stage.
Personally....every time I go into a Walmart / Shoppers / any pharmacy or grocer I walk over to the pharmacy and ask for a package. 7/10 times they have something. I have a buddy bringing me a few from the US as he was there (although the dosages are diff so I need to adjust) but overall we've been fairly well prepared.
But yes, total bullcrap that we are at this stage. This should be one of those things (like vaccines) that should NEVER be allowed to get to this stage.
DownUnder
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Ahh yes, let's appease the French while our kids die.
Relax
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Now this sounds like something the notwithstanding clause was meant for.
Ppl are stupid, that’s why we need labels in both languages.
Learn from ikea. You can probably convey the important information in a language agnostic form. The important part is dosage for weight. No language issue there (assuming we stick with english alphabet, can probably come up with something completely independent of letters but it would take more thought). All the side effect stuff and warnings are slightly dumb. Everything that has some benefit has some side effects. Don't take more than the recommended dose.
Relax
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As long as they include all the ingredients, and not just a bottle of saline.
Hospitals are rejigging floors and bed rates to cover the number of kids , the respiratory issues are nuts , they’ve never seen numbers like this . With two bed rooms , Jimmy needs isolation and Fred’s sleeping in the hall. It’s ugly
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Yes. I suspect nobody is sitting on a stash of stickers with approved wording, you or I cant do it as it would violate copyright of whoever wrote it in the first place and it would add a lot to the price if it had to be done by hand as opposed to slapped on at the end of an assembly line.
I don't know, i just feel like drug stores could do it in this exceptional time to reduce the burden on the system.
