frekeyguy
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Don't forget the bill for the 1000km service!
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Tips for knocking down price? Buying a new bike.
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JCHC91
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Rebelrider1
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Just so your making a good D, take a look at the bike they have noted from Kijiji and then call your insurance back. Have them give you a quote on that bike and just do a comparison. A brand new bike is awesome but sometimes a brand new bike to you is even more awesome. Take a look at all your options
Bagel09
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Just did, your friend must have went in there and pointed at the bike and said "that one, I'll pay full price and beyond!!!"
Bagel09
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Ohhh I know all to well how it feels, this might be an expensive lesson but I guarantee you will not make this "mistake" ever again in your life. I could be wrong but it seems like you did what every salesman's dream is- an impulse buy. You mentioned you can't get your $500.00 deposit back, I'm not sure what to say other than that salesman is being a prick. I hope you get your deposit back and just start from scratch- really think about the investment. Oh and always be prepared to walk away, if its a good deal now it'll be a good deal later on.
killerkeith
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Think of your purchase in these terms. You are marrying a hot smoking virgin who is going to adore you no matter how bad you ride her. Yet all these jealous fools are telling you that banging hood rats with the potential of all kinds of sexual transmitted diseases is the way to go. **** that. I wish I had the scratch to bang virgins.
Expensive brand new bike = a smoking hot virgin who is going to adore you no matter how bad you ride her
Well priced, well taken care of used bike = hood rats with the potential of all kinds of STDS
Sounds about right. Well, except:
- the smoking hot virgin is going to look just like the hood rats in 2-4 years, and won't love you any more than the hood rats do now
- hood rats are actually a 9/10, which probably disqualifies them from being hood rats
- the virgin is no longer a virgin after the wedding night and loses at least 10% of her appeal by morning
- if you're smart, you can make sure the hood rats don't have STDs
- smoking hot virgin actually needs a lot of care, attention, and money in the first 1600km to make sure she doesn't die a premature death (or whatever the equivalent of km's are in this analogy)
Now that I think about it, bikes are like women in a lot of ways. If you jump the gun and get hitched to a pretty one before you've thought about all the important stuff, a few years down the line you can end up with an empty wallet and something that doesn't look or act like it used to.
OP, good luck. You've already bought the ring, you might not be able to return it, but consider all your options before you say your vows!
JCHC91
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Well played. Hahaha
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prediction
within the first month bike will be dropped a few times
worth - a lot less and more to repair
go buy yourself a used ninja 500, learn on that
hell by one that is scraped up already
then after 2 months you will have a better sense of what you really want
put your money into gear and riding courses or track day or two
spending the amount of money you are about to embark on is STUPID
don't say nobody told you
good luck
within the first month bike will be dropped a few times
worth - a lot less and more to repair
go buy yourself a used ninja 500, learn on that
hell by one that is scraped up already
then after 2 months you will have a better sense of what you really want
put your money into gear and riding courses or track day or two
spending the amount of money you are about to embark on is STUPID
don't say nobody told you
good luck
Just because one can find a way to pay for something doesn't mean they can really afford it. Seen to many people buy awesome vehicles only to fret about, scratches, wear and tear, maintenance costs, insurance, leaving it unattended, depreciation etc. That's no way to live. They've bought above their comfort level.
If I had the non-refundable $500 deposit on the new bike and that amount of money is a big deal(it would be) I would try to negotiate moving that to a suitable used bike the dealer might have in stock.
If I had the non-refundable $500 deposit on the new bike and that amount of money is a big deal(it would be) I would try to negotiate moving that to a suitable used bike the dealer might have in stock.
MarcosSantiago
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I don't remember exactly how much I paid for my first bike in Canada, but it was like $1,000, the bike was a Ninja 250, and it came in boxes (Some assembly required).
If I rememer correctly, I sold it for $1,800.
Spending $10,000 on a first bike is ... well, it is something else in my mind. Just be careful with it (in every sense of the word).
If I rememer correctly, I sold it for $1,800.
Spending $10,000 on a first bike is ... well, it is something else in my mind. Just be careful with it (in every sense of the word).
JCHC91
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I think I'm going to take the loss on the $500.
There's a number on the back that says I can call if I do not agree and am not happy with the conclusion in regards to my contract so I think I will try to go that path.
I will be checking out one of the bikes that was linked in this thread within the next few weeks and was wondering if someone could lend a hand to me.
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There's a number on the back that says I can call if I do not agree and am not happy with the conclusion in regards to my contract so I think I will try to go that path.
I will be checking out one of the bikes that was linked in this thread within the next few weeks and was wondering if someone could lend a hand to me.
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What dealer is this and have you confirmed that that bike is still headed to them?
It is very abusive if they are able to cancel it on their end but are withholding your deposit. Maybe they cant cancel it and perhaps thats damaging enough to them to keep your deposit.
If you believe that you have exhausted all of your options for getting the refund, check your contract and see the absolute last day you can pick the bike up and then tell them that they will see you on that day for your bike.
If they're not giving you your money back and are making you eat the deposit, make damn sure they eat that bike.
Maybe their customer service will improve with that potential outcome headed their way.
It is very abusive if they are able to cancel it on their end but are withholding your deposit. Maybe they cant cancel it and perhaps thats damaging enough to them to keep your deposit.
If you believe that you have exhausted all of your options for getting the refund, check your contract and see the absolute last day you can pick the bike up and then tell them that they will see you on that day for your bike.
If they're not giving you your money back and are making you eat the deposit, make damn sure they eat that bike.
Maybe their customer service will improve with that potential outcome headed their way.
JCHC91
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As garbage as this situation is, I feel it is not the right thing to point these guys out.
I'm not sure what the status of the bike is, but I'm almost positive it's on the way / being made. I was notified that after the financing was worked out then the bike would be on the way. It would be 6-8 weeks.
I've gone in and called only to be told a refund on the deposit is not doable as it is not their company's policy...
I'm going to try to see if I can do in-store credit as it is more fair that way in my opinion but I do not know what their answer is.
I only know that I'd rather lose out on 500 if it means I'll be more safe owning rather than owing a bike.
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I'm not sure what the status of the bike is, but I'm almost positive it's on the way / being made. I was notified that after the financing was worked out then the bike would be on the way. It would be 6-8 weeks.
I've gone in and called only to be told a refund on the deposit is not doable as it is not their company's policy...
I'm going to try to see if I can do in-store credit as it is more fair that way in my opinion but I do not know what their answer is.
I only know that I'd rather lose out on 500 if it means I'll be more safe owning rather than owing a bike.
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I think you made a wise decision! At your age I made some really stupid financial decisions that I am recovering from now. But I do hope you get your deposit back somehow and good luck with finding another bike.
JCHC91
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@mathan haha thanks. I heard multiple times in this thread that buying a new bike is almost idiotic unless you pay the full price up front.
As I have mentioned, I will be checking out a bike in the next few weeks. Since I am new at this, I'd like to get some help on checking it out.
@DDean I thought that once the contract is signed I'm SOL. At least that's what I'm being lead to believe. What do I say to them to force the sleight of hand in my favour?
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As I have mentioned, I will be checking out a bike in the next few weeks. Since I am new at this, I'd like to get some help on checking it out.
@DDean I thought that once the contract is signed I'm SOL. At least that's what I'm being lead to believe. What do I say to them to force the sleight of hand in my favour?
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Here is what I would do:
1) Read my contract for the timeline of you finalizing the purchase of the bike. In exchange for your deposit, they have agreed to sell you that bike for the terms outlined. Exactly when does it say you need to finalize the deal and pick the bike up by?
2) Read my contract for what it says if you never take delivery of the bike. What is considered finalizing the sale? Pickup?
3) I suspect that they cannot finalize the sale, finalize the financing and drop the bike off on your lawn without your co-operation.
4) So after I understood the contract (and not go by what they're telling me on the phone), I would tell them:
"I would really prefer to cancel this purchase but am not willing to give up on my $500 deposit yet. I will decide on X DAY whether or not I take possession of the bike", with X being the longest they are obligated to sit on that bike before they can sell to so another party.
Dont email them anything. Only phone conversations.
With that my best guess is that they will start negotiating, but it depends upon what your contract says.
Just remember that theyre obligated to acquire that bike for you if they retain your deposit. It is very likely that your contract is written up such that you have given them $500 for the option to acquire that bike for $X on Y day.
But remember that you are the only one here who has your contract so it could be written in a way that precludes you from the above. But even if it is, they will want to minimize the risk that they take delivery of a special order bike where the buyer has walked away. Contracts are ALWAYS negotiable even when they say they are not. You just need to find the right buttons to push.
1) Read my contract for the timeline of you finalizing the purchase of the bike. In exchange for your deposit, they have agreed to sell you that bike for the terms outlined. Exactly when does it say you need to finalize the deal and pick the bike up by?
2) Read my contract for what it says if you never take delivery of the bike. What is considered finalizing the sale? Pickup?
3) I suspect that they cannot finalize the sale, finalize the financing and drop the bike off on your lawn without your co-operation.
4) So after I understood the contract (and not go by what they're telling me on the phone), I would tell them:
"I would really prefer to cancel this purchase but am not willing to give up on my $500 deposit yet. I will decide on X DAY whether or not I take possession of the bike", with X being the longest they are obligated to sit on that bike before they can sell to so another party.
Dont email them anything. Only phone conversations.
With that my best guess is that they will start negotiating, but it depends upon what your contract says.
Just remember that theyre obligated to acquire that bike for you if they retain your deposit. It is very likely that your contract is written up such that you have given them $500 for the option to acquire that bike for $X on Y day.
But remember that you are the only one here who has your contract so it could be written in a way that precludes you from the above. But even if it is, they will want to minimize the risk that they take delivery of a special order bike where the buyer has walked away. Contracts are ALWAYS negotiable even when they say they are not. You just need to find the right buttons to push.
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