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[PrivatePilot]

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so the townsfolk voted 60% no
council votes 8-1 yes

I see democracy is bought and paid for thoroughly in those parts

Well, the article Lightcycle posted tells the story of why this was the outcome. The citizens didn't want it to happen. Honestly, city council probably didn't either. But like I said earlier in this thread, people are going to come anyways. You can't cancel Sturgis anymore than you could cancel Friday the 13'th here in Ontario - people WILL come regardless.

So, there was only real option - accept that inevitability, and prepare.

If council had just decided to say no, well, hundreds of thousands of people are showing up anyways. Then they'd all be pissing everywhere in the streets, crapping behind buildings, overrunning local food joints (because the vendors wouldn't be there offering street food), there'd be no security leading to all sorts of issues there, no sanitation, and basically it would be a epic clusterfuck.

This was a "rock and a hard place" situation. I think the decision they made in the end was the right one.

Now, on another topic, again from that article, we have dolts like this:

"I'm not worried about it at all -- we're from California where you gotta wear masks everywhere you go," Gary Miller said. "So it's honestly refreshing coming out and not having to worry about it."

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These dumbasses are going to spread the covid they brought to Sturgis and spread it, or pickup the Covid someone else brought and bring it back to California.

These people just do NOT get it.

 

[AllistonGT]

These people just do NOT get it.

Can't reason with stupid.

 

[Roadghost]

Like the businesses he bankrupted multiple times, including a casino (apparently the house doesn’t always win)? Like the Trump University that was a scam? Like his daddy’s fortune he squandered?

He's worth $3.5billion at last count. That's more than his "daddy" ever had. He's worked the system to his advantage all the way along, including the bankruptcies and Trump University. It's all about making money, and he's good at it. Until Covid the U.S. economy was roaring and Canada was riding the coat tails.

Illegal immigration isn’t actually a serious issue in the US but it’s a great distraction if you’re dumb and racist.

What a preposterous lie. There are lots of maps of the United States showing that the highest crime states are the ones with high rates of illegal immigration:


There are also maps showing the ethnic and racial breakdown of their crime problem and there are no surprises in them. But of course, it must be the police right? Sure.

Countries with a terrorist problem all seem to have been occupied/invaded/fought over by the yanks. Really odd coincidence that.

Yes, so what is your point? I thought we were talking about Trump and why American voted for him? Trump has been gradually pulling the United States out of the middle east - Iraq, Syria, and Afghanistan - against the shrieking howls of the leftists. Almost every foreigner committed terrorist act on U.S. soil was done by people migrating from the middle east. Trump campaigned on getting the U.S. out of there and he did. I don't blame him for slamming the door shut against the 'death to America crowd' immigrating from there. Tell me who else Americans could have voted for to accomplish that?

 

[bigpoppa]

Vaccines are fake news - stable genius

 

[PrivatePilot]

He's worth $3.5billion at last count.

Do you honestly believe he's actually worth how much he says? Really?

The last 4 years has proven beyond a shred of reasonable doubt that he lies a LOT, and that he suffers from delusions of grandeur.

Lets also remember that he inherited a huge portion of his wealth, and he squandered and lost a huge portion of it over the years.

One of the biggest reasons he goes to the end of the earth to prevent anyone from seeing his tax returns is because the skeletons will come out of the closets.

 

[Soulcatcher668]

You sound exactly like the people that were asking for Obama's birth certificate.
Stop being led by the media.

 

[Roadghost]

Lets not forget putting children in cages, conspiring with foreign countries to enrich himself and boost his re-election chances, shaking the hands of murderous dictators and trying to be friends with them, attacking war heroes, inviting the Taliban to come visit and hang out at Camp Davic, supporting the white power crowd, sending military police to black bag it's own citizens, floating disallowing it's own citizens to return from other countries if there's any chance they may have been infected by Covid while gone (pot, meet kettle), started trade wars with other countries that have cost the USA dearly and accomplished little to nothing, sends his children to handle serious world issues despite having no experience in the important issues they're dealing with, uses the POTUS branding for personal enrichment, stacks his white house staff with clueless dolts, many of whom are now in jail because of their actions, stoking racial tension, denying science, all while blaming everything that's gone wrong in the last 4 years on Obama.

I could go on for another billion lines if you'd like.

But hey, there's those three things you mentioned, which in reality, are all red herrings in the grand scheme of things.

Oh, why yes. And let's not forget the Tides Foundation and other radical leftist orgs paying for buses to take families to the U.S. border and dump them there, lead them across the border and make a spectacle of the U.S. border patrol? And Kim Jong Un, who got duped into a PR stunt by Trump - but he hasn't been launching many missiles lately has he? While we're on the topic, exactly what DEMOCRAT was it that built a NUCLEAR REACTOR for Kim Jong Il so they could manufacture plutonium and make nuclear bombs? (Hint: he sexually abused his secretary). He also is the only guy to strike a deal with the Taliban so that U.S. troops can get out of there (Obama failed miserably at that) etc.

As for the rest of your drivel, it reeks of a person brainwashed by the extreme left media. I know what the guys writing those stories are like. I used to be a reporter myself and I worked with some of their type. Only a fool would read them without a very skeptical eye.

Anyway, thread's become too political. This is supposed to be about bikes and Sturgis.

 

[Roadghost]

Do you honestly believe he's actually worth how much he says? Really?

The last 4 years has proven beyond a shred of reasonable doubt that he lies a LOT, and that he suffers from delusions of grandeur.

Lets also remember that he inherited a huge portion of his wealth, and he squandered and lost a huge portion of it over the years.

One of the biggest reasons he goes to the end of the earth to prevent anyone from seeing his tax returns is because the skeletons will come out of the closets.

Those numbers don't come from him. They come from FORBES MAGAZINE, who are constantly re-evaluating him. $3.5 billion when he took office. $3.1billion last year. Now they're saying he dropped to $2.x billion because of Covid. He has gained NOTHING from becoming President. Absolutely nothing - and he still wants to be re-elected. He's been working for almost nothing all along. Can you tell me why you think he'd do that?

As for tax returns, he's been doing what every other rich person does in the U.S. and Canada: evading taxes with fake companies, bankruptcies and investments. There's nothing new about that. Why don't you ask to see Trudeau's tax return? Nobody should be required to reveal all of their personal finances to get a job. That's ridiculous.

 

[PrivatePilot]

He has gained NOTHING from becoming President

You're incredibly naive if you honestly believe that.

He's spent 1 out of every 3 days in the first 3 years of his presidency at his OWN resorts! The secret service alone has spent millions at his own properties as a direct result of his choice to stay at his own resorts while in office.

He frequently uses his bully pulpit to advertise his resorts.

When officials come from other countries they book endless rooms at his hotels in an effort to get in his good books.

Campaigns and political groups spend millions of dollars staying at his resorts to have a chance to bump into him, or win favour.

Members of Congress have used taxpayer money to stay at his resorts.

And this is just his enrichments directly related to his resorts. They've spent so much in the last 4 years at just his own properties that they won't even declare a number anymore.

Nobody should be required to reveal all of their personal finances to get a job. That's ridiculous.

It's been a sign of a president having nothing to hide for decades now. Every president for the last 40 years has done it.

It wouldn't be a stretch to suggest that when Trump promised to release his taxes, then flunked out on that promise, and has subsequently spent the last 3.5 years fighting tooth, nail, and endless lawsuits, that he has something to hide.

 

[BigEvilDoer]

You're incredibly naive if you honestly believe that.

You're trying to use common sense with a hard right winger who is so far into the Kool-aid it's terminal.
Save your breath of reason, logic and social responsibility... rather keystrokes, not breath... the neutrons you're sending across the world with the interweb must be supremely annoyed.

 

[J_F]

I guess there are different ideas of what a successful businessman is
to me it's a company founder that builds something from nothing

while enriching himself provides a good livelihood to the employees
identifies leaders and brings them up with him
returns wealth to investors and gives back to the community

to some it's a lying, cheating stealing POS that fucks his investors
pays zero tax, treats employees like garbage and leaves no legacy but debt

 

[bigpoppa]

Trump is actually stupid AF

Anyone with any money or power will never run for office

Why would they? Its a paycut with more headaches.

This is why Bezos never ran but encouraged bloomberg to run.

 

[Roadghost]

You're incredibly naive if you honestly believe that.

He's spent 1 out of every 3 days in the first 3 years of his presidency at his OWN resorts! The secret service alone has spent millions at his own properties as a direct result of his choice to stay at his own resorts while in office.

He frequently uses his bully pulpit to advertise his resorts.

When officials come from other countries they book endless rooms at his hotels in an effort to get in his good books.

Campaigns and political groups spend millions of dollars staying at his resorts to have a chance to bump into him, or win favour.

Members of Congress have used taxpayer money to stay at his resorts.

And this is just his enrichments directly related to his resorts. They've spent so much in the last 4 years at just his own properties that they won't even declare a number anymore.




It's been a sign of a president having nothing to hide for decades now. Every president for the last 40 years has done it.

It wouldn't be a stretch to suggest that when Trump promised to release his taxes, then flunked out on that promise, and has subsequently spent the last 3.5 years fighting tooth, nail, and endless lawsuits, that he has something to hide.

LOL! Conventions at his hotels? That's a drop in the bucket sunny. If he was worth $3.5B before, and now he's at $2.x B tell me where the profit is? His name has been dragged through the mud so badly it will never recover. He's not making anything from being President and everyone knows it.

 

[Roadghost]

You're trying to use common sense with a hard right winger who is so far into the Kool-aid it's terminal.
Save your breath of reason, logic and social responsibility... rather keystrokes, not breath... the neutrons you're sending across the world with the interweb must be supremely annoyed.

This is a troll post. If you had a reasonable argument, you'd make it. You don't.

 

[PrivatePilot]

This is a troll post

 

[Mad Mike]

Lets not forget putting children in cages, conspiring with foreign countries to enrich himself and boost his re-election chances, shaking the hands of murderous dictators and trying to be friends with them, attacking war heroes, inviting the Taliban to come visit and hang out at Camp Davic, supporting the white power crowd, sending military police to black bag it's own citizens, floating disallowing it's own citizens to return from other countries if there's any chance they may have been infected by Covid while gone (pot, meet kettle), started trade wars with other countries that have cost the USA dearly and accomplished little to nothing, sends his children to handle serious world issues despite having no experience in the important issues they're dealing with, uses the POTUS branding for personal enrichment, stacks his white house staff with clueless dolts, many of whom are now in jail because of their actions, stoking racial tension, denying science, all while blaming everything that's gone wrong in the last 4 years on Obama.

I could go on for another billion lines if you'd like.

But hey, there's those three things you mentioned, which in reality, are all red herrings in the grand scheme of things.

You forgot lighting up the economy. Gains given back, but the underpinnings are sound and the US despite Covid is poised to roar back.

 

[Mad Mike]

You're incredibly naive if you honestly believe that.

He's spent 1 out of every 3 days in the first 3 years of his presidency at his OWN resorts! The secret service alone has spent millions at his own properties as a direct result of his choice to stay at his own resorts while in office.

He frequently uses his bully pulpit to advertise his resorts.

When officials come from other countries they book endless rooms at his hotels in an effort to get in his good books.

Campaigns and political groups spend millions of dollars staying at his resorts to have a chance to bump into him, or win favour.

Members of Congress have used taxpayer money to stay at his resorts.

And this is just his enrichments directly related to his resorts. They've spent so much in the last 4 years at just his own properties that they won't even declare a number anymore.




It's been a sign of a president having nothing to hide for decades now. Every president for the last 40 years has done it.

It wouldn't be a stretch to suggest that when Trump promised to release his taxes, then flunked out on that promise, and has subsequently spent the last 3.5 years fighting tooth, nail, and endless lawsuits, that he has something to hide.

There have been no billionaire presidents in the last few decades. The last Uber rich president was a Kennedy, he too refused to release his taxes.

You have to be living under a rock not to see the guy has done ok for himself. I’d hazard a guess he has accumulated more wealth than the combined membership of this forum.

I’ll bet his jet is bigger than yours.

 

[TK4]

There have been no billionaire presidents in the last few decades. The last Uber rich president was a Kennedy, he too refused to release his taxes.

You have to be living under a rock not to see the guy has done ok for himself. I’d hazard a guess he has accumulated more wealth than the combined membership of this forum.

I’ll bet his jet is bigger than yours.

Read "Too Much And Never Enough", that pretty much explains it all.

 

[PrivatePilot]

You forgot lighting up the economy

He inherited that too, just like his money.

But of course, in typical Trump fashion, he tried to make it all about himself while falsely claiming that his predecesor had basically run the country into the ground before him, when in reality, it was Bush (also a republican) who presided during the 2008 crash and Obama inherited that mess. And fixed it.

^^^ If those are not the textbook definition of "riding coattails", nothing is. When you actually look at the facts instead of the memes on Facebook and the outright lies both he and his party like to spew forth, reality shows.

The only people who think he's done magical things for the USA are those who have drank 55 gallon drums of the Trump Kookaid.

 

[Roadghost]

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What are you talking about? You're a guy who hates Harleys posting in a Harley thread. What do you call that?

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