The Sikhs are at it again: fighting helmet laws.

Welcome to Canada. Live by our rules or get the **** out. Reminds me of when I went for an MRI just a few months ago. An Arab guy had a necklace on that I guess was religious and wouldn't take it off for the MRI machine. The MRI technician finally said look, these are the rules, if you don't take off the metal garments, you'll have to leave, so he did. Everyone just thinks they are special, and unfortunately it's not the case. I'd just hate to see one of these morons on a Super Sport, get a juicy bug off the face and slam into an innocent driver beside him.

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Those of us who live here might not want every possible action to be circumscribed by rules or regulations. Leave a little bit to free will already. Why do we have to be such a bunch of nannied pussies?

P.S. I rode in no helmet law states and still wore a full face lid but that's because it was my choice to do so.
 
Shouldn't every devout religious person be spending every spare moment praying instead of running around on satanic motorcycles?
What next? Baptists demanding only non alcoholic beer be served in pubs so they don't violate their tenets by going in? Puritans demanding that strippers put on clothes so the puritans can go to strip joints and not see naked women?
 
As much as i want to say "let em",i don't like the idea of any minority changing Canadian laws for their own pleasure (motorcycles are toys ya know).Once the foot is in the door,who knows what other laws would need changing.We got rid of the Lords Prayer a long time ago,and now the Muslim community has religion back in schools.Wtf!!??
 
Ever since the RCMP allowed sikhs to wear turbans, it was free game for anything else.
 
How about scratching the helmet laws period?
 
As much as i want to say "let em",i don't like the idea of any minority changing Canadian laws for their own pleasure

You are aware that they managed to strike down the "no turbans" rule of the Legion back in '94, right? And that a Sikh successfully challenged the helmet law in BC a few years back? And let's not forget about the day the RCMP changed their regulations to allow the wearing of turbans...
 
You are aware that they managed to strike down the "no turbans" rule of the Legion back in '94, right? And that a Sikh successfully challenged the helmet law in BC a few years back? And let's not forget about the day the RCMP changed their regulations to allow the wearing of turbans...
Right you are Mike.
 
As much as i want to say "let em",i don't like the idea of any minority changing Canadian laws for their own pleasure (motorcycles are toys ya know).Once the foot is in the door,who knows what other laws would need changing.We got rid of the Lords Prayer a long time ago,and now the Muslim community has religion back in schools.Wtf!!??

Agreed - the individual would have had to lose the turban in order to get his license, why could religion be set aside at that point, but now it's such an issue?
 
The legion refused entry to 3 WW2 veterans, a Lt Col. with a chest full of gongs, and two JCOs, who had been invited to march in the parade by the Legion hall in question. Dude didn't survive a war without some kind of backbone . You humiliate him and the resulting fracas should have been quite predictable.
I don;t think we can compare that to this issue.
 
Riding a motorcycle is a privelage, and with it comes rules. Just because it does not agree with your religion is of no concern to transportation safety. Sihk's are free to practice their religion whenever and wherever they please. However, if they want to ride a motorcycle to and from such events, they best be wearing a helmet.
 
I'm a Sikh, but I don't wear a turban. I think if they created some sort of turban helmet that was DOT approved and passes safety standards, its all good. If you think about it the turban does cover vital areas of the head just put some extra protection underneath and you got yourself a turban skull cap:). Pretty cool and respects the religion. Or some sort of add-on to the turban... :rolleyes: Ideas are rushing in! If they can't compromise and only want it they're way than... I don't think I can support them. I personally love my Shoei Sever 2 Beast design.
 
I've seen sikhs at jobsites and they are forced to wear hardhats like everyone else, no exceptions. Safety super cedes any religious attire. They had no problem with this as I've seen them change their traditional headgear into something more compact that allowed them to wear standard hardhats. Can't see why if won't work for any motorcycle helmets.
 
Well, that was no helmet at all. The question here is, what sort of protective effect would a properly-wound turban provide? For at least some sorts of falls and crashes it would provide at least some protection.

Clearly a rider who chooses to go without a helmet endangers nobody's safety but the rider's own. The greater potential impact is from the societal costs that arise from rider's who die or whose injuries are exacerbated from lack of helmet use.

One such potential cost is the financial hit to our health care system. However Sikhs are a very tiny minority even if you include non-observant Sikhs. The number of strictly observant Sikhs who actually ride and who might forgo a helmet in favour of a turban would be an even smaller number, and the ones who crash resulting in medical care arising from lack of helmet would be an even smaller number. The potential hit to the province's overall health care budget wouldn't even register as a blip.

The article notes that Sikhs in British Columbia have won the right to wear a turban in place of a helmet. It would be interesting to see what the net experience is of Sikhs involved in helmetless crashes there.

********. Laws are there for a reason. If I even have to pay for 1 penny out of my tax dollars to cover someone not wearing a helmet for any reason, it's 1 penny too much.

I will 100% defend the right not to wear a helmet in any area where you have to pay for your own healthcare. Residents of this country need not apply, the reality is....We'll take care of you no matter what you sign. We're good Canadians like that.

Btw Turbo...there's a thread in the general motorcycle forum awaiting your much anticipated input.

Hugs and Kisses.
 
The legion refused entry to 3 WW2 veterans, a Lt Col. with a chest full of gongs, and two JCOs, who had been invited to march in the parade by the Legion hall in question. Dude didn't survive a war without some kind of backbone . You humiliate him and the resulting fracas should have been quite predictable.
I don;t think we can compare that to this issue.

Yes, we can, because it is very relevant. Honourable military service aside, rules are rules and traditions are traditions. When an outside religion attempts to disrupt them, the resulting fracas is also predictable.

FWIW, I was undergoing basic training in the Canadian Forces when a Sikh tried to challenge the "no turbans, no kirpans" rule in the military. While the kirpan was eventually deemed to be an acceptable addition to the uniform under certain conditions, he lost his case on the basis that the turban and beard did not allow for a complete seal of an NBCW mask against his face. Common sense prevailed.
 
Riding a motorcycle is a privelage, and with it comes rules. Just because it does not agree with your religion is of no concern to transportation safety. Sihk's are free to practice their religion whenever and wherever they please. However, if they want to ride a motorcycle to and from such events, they best be wearing a helmet.

http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/story.html?id=4417b334-eb24-4f75-a90f-1be8bdfee938&k=38026

Hell, I'm going to convert and go around and collect money from places where I can't get in without a lid!
 
Riding a motorcycle is a privelage, and with it comes rules. Just because it does not agree with your religion is of no concern to transportation safety. Sihk's are free to practice their religion whenever and wherever they please. However, if they want to ride a motorcycle to and from such events, they best be wearing a helmet.

+110%.
 

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