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Priller said:
There's a healthy Star fleet in Toronto if you like racing. Splits the difference on dinghy and keel, and they're fun to sail. Not the fastest boats, but it's all relative.

For pure speed on the wind, nothing beats an iceboat, but good ice on a big enough lake is harder to find than it used to be...
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Toronto is too far away for me to get there often. Keel boats aren't my thing. I like dinghies. Without the kids, I would probably try a 49er next. Looks like fun. Wind at the inlaws cottage is normally marginal and swirling so it's not an ideal sailing lake but it is convenient.

I started my wife with an echo (CL-12) as it was cheap and I wanted to see if she liked sailing. It turns out that with two people hiked out in a stiff breeze, you can get enough pressure down the mast to drive it through the hull. Woops. Fixed it and sold it to a 10 year old that wanted to sail (with full disclosure of what happened and how). It should work well for the kid.

Then Tornado. Holy crap. Scary but so much fun. You can go sailing when it is almost dead calm and just cruise around. In the wind though, it carries way too much speed for her lake. Tacking more than once a minute gets old fast. I didn't like that there was no real way to depower it substantially. It was full throttle all the time. You couldn't even drop the sail and paddle in if conditions near the shore looked like trouble. You had to be out of the wind to get the sail down.

I guess an albacore is possible. I want something a little snappier if possible though.
 
Priller said:
There's a healthy Star fleet in Toronto if you like racing. Splits the difference on dinghy and keel, and they're fun to sail. Not the fastest boats, but it's all relative.

For pure speed on the wind, nothing beats an iceboat, but good ice on a big enough lake is harder to find than it used to be...
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This isn't as fast as an iceboat but looks like a hell of a lot of fun (as long as downwind doesn't have any obstacles).

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=2846202039041167
 
GreyGhost said:
Toronto is too far away for me to get there often. Keel boats aren't my thing. I like dinghies. Without the kids, I would probably try a 49er next. Looks like fun. Wind at the inlaws cottage is normally marginal and swirling so it's not an ideal sailing lake but it is convenient.

I started my wife with an echo (CL-12) as it was cheap and I wanted to see if she liked sailing. It turns out that with two people hiked out in a stiff breeze, you can get enough pressure down the mast to drive it through the hull. Woops. Fixed it and sold it to a 10 year old that wanted to sail (with full disclosure of what happened and how). It should work well for the kid.

Then Tornado. Holy crap. Scary but so much fun. You can go sailing when it is almost dead calm and just cruise around. In the wind though, it carries way too much speed for her lake. Tacking more than once a minute gets old fast. I didn't like that there was no real way to depower it substantially. It was full throttle all the time. You couldn't even drop the sail and paddle in if conditions near the shore looked like trouble. You had t be out of the wind to get the sail down.

I guess an albacore is possible. I want something a little snappier if possible though.
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Lots of space between the 49er and Albacore! The great thing about an Albacore is you can sit inside the hull, which makes it nice for more casual sails or having younger kids onboard, as there's room to be there without getting in the way of the operation of the boat.

While I love the rocketships like the 49er and 14's, I'm not sure I'd want one on a small lake.
One idea to split the difference might be a 505. Speedy, lots out there, but not quite as nutty as the winged or bowspritted monsters.

Let me know if you're ever seriously in the market for another dinghy. Both my dad and uncle are still peripherally involved through clubs in Toronto and Hamilton (they both raced 14's internationally in the '60s), so will know of some deals for boats that may not be advertised...
 
GreyGhost said:
This isn't as fast as an iceboat but looks like a hell of a lot of fun (as long as downwind doesn't have any obstacles).
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Those things totally killed sailboarding. A buddy did it seriously in BC, as the inlet by Squamish has great steady wind. The ones with the foils are faster with a decent breeze than any sailboat, dinghy or keel, apparently. I always assumed they were crap upwind, but supposedly the foil changes all that.


It's just a bit too different from sailing for me, and no fun in light weather. There is a dinghy with a kite that I've seen, but I wouldn't want to do that anywhere that's not wide open...
 
I don’t think there’s anything about a boat that’s affordable lol. But I know nothing about them or what you guys are even saying. Different language.
 
mimico_polak said:
I don’t think there’s anything about a boat that’s affordable lol. But I know nothing about them or what you guys are even saying. Different language.
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Some boats are like a Harley. They are comfortable and lumber around. Other's are like strapping yourself to an SS bike with the throttle stuck open and hoping you have enough skill or luck to avoid crashing. The Tornado was 10' wide, 20' long and 30' tall. You could surprise power boats with the thing in a stiff breeze cruising around at 10 to 20 mph in your sailboat. If you flip it, it quickly becomes 10' wide, 20" tall and 30' deep. Ugh. It almost bit me one time as I got a slight puff of wind while I was two boat lengths off a dock and it accelerated to 10 mph in one boat length.


Obviously not me.
 
I believe it was @crankcall that was offering people join in on his sailing? Once weather and COVID allows id love to sign up to give it a whirl.
My only exposure was a catamaran in Australia along the coast for 5 days to the whitsunday islands.
 
mimico_polak said:
I believe it was @crankcall that was offering people join in on his sailing? Once weather and COVID allows id love to sign up to give it a whirl.
My only exposure was a catamaran in Australia along the coast for 5 days to the whitsunday islands.
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CC has keel boats in Oakville. A whole different ballgame. Mostly different skills, much more teamwork required and at least a few orders of magnitude more money than where I play.
 
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1989 Katana 600 project $500. Looks clean factory red gold and a 4-1 pipe.

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this could keep somebody busy for a while.
I find the earlier (88/89) 600 katana body work better looking then later model 600 katanas.
I got to ride an early kat a long time ago. I liked it. Ergos were just right for me...

sailboats? as a kid, our family had an old 42' nova scotia built wooden two mast sailboat being resurrected in our back yard ..
my brother worked at grampian boats in oakville in those days.
he sold the boat to a hard working hippy. unbelievably about 10 years later while we were sailing near vancouver island - we docked at the gov wharf in Lund BC - and dang if that old 42' sailboat wasn't docked there. Met up with the hippy in the lund hotel bar ! He was there with his wife, used the sailboat to live on and make a living fishing with it. They had 3 children - all born on that sailboat. small world. we all had a laugh ...
 
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