Texas man beats alleged molester

[Vlad]

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I get what you're saying, but many pedophiles don't need children to be dolled up beyond their years to be sexually attracted to them.

That is most probably right. There are as many mechanisms and triggers of sexual arousal as there are people on this planet. It doesn't matter what get's your blood flowing as long as it flows in the privacy of your own home or between consenting adults. Acting up on your urges towards minors is a crime very few of those aroused by kids are actually going to engage in.

You don't think that there is inherently something hard-wired wrong in their brains?

I'm not a psychiatrist so I don't know. I don't think the pedophilia gene was found yet, but I wouldn't rule out it's genetic origins. If it's a mental disease (I think it's more-less safe to assume it is) it's a reason to treat people afflicted by it more humanely - not lynch them.

 

[SunnY S]

Maybe "trying to assault" meant his daughter was already stripped of her clothing, terrified lying on the bed and this man was about 1 second away from getting his underwear off...then you walk in.

That man wouldn't have stood a chance if that was my daughter he was about to rape.

If I walked in on that scenario, I'd throw the guy in the berlin jail with Luka Magnotta, hand him an ice pick, and video tape the whole thing.

 

[short stop]

That is most probably right. There are as many mechanisms and triggers of sexual arousal as there are people on this planet. It doesn't matter what get's your blood flowing as long as it flows in the privacy of your own home or between consenting adults. Acting up on your urges towards minors is a crime very few of those aroused by kids are actually going to engage in.

I'd be curious how any one would know this, considering that I doubt many people would admit to being aroused by children unless caught red-handed in some kind of offense.

I'm not a psychiatrist so I don't know. I don't think the pedophilia gene was found yet, but I wouldn't rule out it's genetic origins. If it's a mental disease (I think it's more-less safe to assume it is) it's a reason to treat people afflicted by it more humanely - not lynch them.

Mental disease or not, I don't have an ounce of sympathy for anyone who acts out no these attractions. Going forward seeking help *before* one acts on their crimes - sure.

 

[Vlad]

Mental disease or not, I don't have an ounce of sympathy for anyone who acts out no these attractions. Going forward seeking help *before* one acts on their crimes - sure.

People aware there's something wrong with them and afraid that they might act on their urges are not very likely to commit any crimes and are already half cured. Sympathy or no sympathy, it doesn't give anyone rights to become the judge, the jury and the executioner. I rest my case.

 

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People aware there's something wrong with them and afraid that they might act on their urges are not very likely to commit any crimes and are already half cured. Sympathy or no sympathy, it doesn't give anyone rights to become the judge, the jury and the executioner. I rest my case.

I already said I can somewhat understand if someone seeks out help. My sympathy simply does not extend to those who go so far as to act on them and victimize children. If that makes me overtly judgemental - so be it. Somehow I don't think many would disagree with me.

 

[Vlad]

My sympathy simply does not extend to those who go so far as to act on them and victimize children.

Neither does mine. I just won't kill over it.

 

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Neither does mine. I just won't kill over it.

Neither would I. But who knows how I would react if it was my own child.

 

[Vlad]

I'll never know.

 

[nobbie48]

People aware there's something wrong with them and afraid that they might act on their urges are not very likely to commit any crimes and are already half cured. Sympathy or no sympathy, it doesn't give anyone rights to become the judge, the jury and the executioner. I rest my case.

My appologies for the earlier misunderstanding.

There was some radio talk a while back about potential pedos that knew their feelings were wrong and managed to avoid temptation, not unlike a recovering alcoholic avoiding situations that would lead to him to drinking again.

One of the problems people face when they have mental issues is the stygma of treatment and the whispering treatment that goes with it.

I also suspect that mental problems are largely controled rather than cured and people, myself included, worry if the control is working or has lapses.

 

[Vlad]

One of the problems people face when they have mental issues is the stygma of treatment and the whispering treatment that goes with it.

Physical and psychological maltreatment notwithstanding, all the way to murder.

I also suspect that mental problems are largely controled rather than cured and people, myself included, worry if the control is working or has lapses.

I guess it depends on the source of mental problems. Many are simply chemical imbalances that are possible to cure or fully control with medication. Others are purely psychological in origin and have to be treated with psychotherapy of one sort or the other with success that often cannot be measured, let alone confirmed. Then there are those that are combination of both. Finding the cause is half way to the cure. Just like with any other disease, some cures will not work and some people will suffer. One can enclose one self in a crystal ball and die there or take a risk of living in the real world. Killing sick people or denying them basic human rights is not an acceptable solution. This applies to hardened criminals too, no matter what their crime is, at least in civilized societies.

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