kiwi
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Welcome. I hope you got a feel of the board - you know what you're in for.. etc. (The pic of the cheeta and antelope comes to mind - lol)
I hope you get BMWs - will be much more reliable than those Harleys..
*taps his helmet* Hi everyone...
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Welcome. I hope you got a feel of the board - you know what you're in for.. etc. (The pic of the cheeta and antelope comes to mind - lol)
I hope you get BMWs - will be much more reliable than those Harleys..
l84toff
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Definitely some truth in that. I can't say I agree with the whole judge, jury and executioner at the side of the road concept.
On the other hand, people that stay within the confines (or there about) of the law, don't typically have a need to run. It seems that the choice to run is preceded by a choice to break the law by a significant margin. Justifying running because of the severity of consequences of breaking the law in the first place is a weak argument.
Just want to point out that Bike Cop never said the runners were young, if that's what you meant.
Oh and welcome.
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Welcome.
*** Taps helmet to indicate police presence to oncoming traffic.
P.S. Always wondered, so if you ride in summer, what are you guys doing in the winter, snowmobile?
Yes. You only see them on the trails though ..
They do the same thing when the weather is inclement in the summer they drive a patrol car... There are some detachments that share sleds as well as ATV's in the summer. Then there is the S.A.V.E team, (Snowmobile, All terrain vehicle, Vessel Enforcement team). These guys are the ones whose mandate it is to enforcement on those types of vehicles as well as train regular officers who pull duty at their local detachments.
Welcome.
*** Taps helmet to indicate police presence to oncoming traffic.
P.S. Always wondered, so if you ride in summer, what are you guys doing in the winter, snowmobile?
I know Bike Cop wasn't on the forum when this occurred and was discussed. So I will take this one. It was discussed that one of the tenants of the property had requested the police to do "something" about the bikes on the property and the hooliganism that was occurring as they were leaving the property.
Being a "commercial tenant" as I am now with my locations, our leases are slightly different than that of a residential agreement. If someone is coming to your apt, and you no longer want them there you can ask them to leave and tell them not to return. This will keep them out of YOUR unit but doesn't prevent them from returning to the building. in order for them to be banned from the property it must be done by the property owner or "their agent", (Super, or security). They can be served with a trespass notice not to return. However, in the case of a commercial property, (there is not always an on site on duty property manager or security. The tenant is authorized to act as an "agent of the property owner". As such I can give permission for the police, to be on the property. Now that just gives them the right to enter the property. I can also provide permission to the police to take "corrective or enforcement action" If they see an infraction then they may act upon it. On the other hand if I ask them to "deal" with the situation then they now have some more "latitude". It doesn't give them the authority to violate the charter. I can ask them to "identify" someone for me on the property, (remembering that person is on private property).
In the past generally if asked a person will identify themselves, however, if they refuse all that can be done is that they can do is ask me to ask this person to leave the premises and not return. If they comply end of story if they refuse, then they may arrest that person for trespassing, (at which point the id thing becomes a moot point)..lol.
Now what the officers did that evening, may not have followed proper procedure, i can't say as I wasn't there and I doubt the officers "volunteered" the information as to under what authority they were checking the documents.
As Bike cop said on public roads there are only very select times when an officer can pull you over for a "spot check" IE ride programs etc that have been tested in court and ruled ok.
Being a "commercial tenant" as I am now with my locations, our leases are slightly different than that of a residential agreement. If someone is coming to your apt, and you no longer want them there you can ask them to leave and tell them not to return. This will keep them out of YOUR unit but doesn't prevent them from returning to the building. in order for them to be banned from the property it must be done by the property owner or "their agent", (Super, or security). They can be served with a trespass notice not to return. However, in the case of a commercial property, (there is not always an on site on duty property manager or security. The tenant is authorized to act as an "agent of the property owner". As such I can give permission for the police, to be on the property. Now that just gives them the right to enter the property. I can also provide permission to the police to take "corrective or enforcement action" If they see an infraction then they may act upon it. On the other hand if I ask them to "deal" with the situation then they now have some more "latitude". It doesn't give them the authority to violate the charter. I can ask them to "identify" someone for me on the property, (remembering that person is on private property).
In the past generally if asked a person will identify themselves, however, if they refuse all that can be done is that they can do is ask me to ask this person to leave the premises and not return. If they comply end of story if they refuse, then they may arrest that person for trespassing, (at which point the id thing becomes a moot point)..lol.
Now what the officers did that evening, may not have followed proper procedure, i can't say as I wasn't there and I doubt the officers "volunteered" the information as to under what authority they were checking the documents.
As Bike cop said on public roads there are only very select times when an officer can pull you over for a "spot check" IE ride programs etc that have been tested in court and ruled ok.
Hi Welcome! I appreciate your direct answers I'm seeing around here and hope the approach works out.
If you've been around the Barrie area and a guy on an old orange Kawasaki waved, that was me. I've always wondered what bike cops though about getting waved at? Perceived as too much buddying up? Or "oh hey, nice ride!"?
regardless as to peoples past experiences and opinions about cops, I firmly believe a greater percentage of bikes cops would be a good thing. Anything to share the experiences and challenges a motorcyclist faces, and any advocacy to non-riding officers can only be a big plus IMO.
If you've been around the Barrie area and a guy on an old orange Kawasaki waved, that was me. I've always wondered what bike cops though about getting waved at? Perceived as too much buddying up? Or "oh hey, nice ride!"?
regardless as to peoples past experiences and opinions about cops, I firmly believe a greater percentage of bikes cops would be a good thing. Anything to share the experiences and challenges a motorcyclist faces, and any advocacy to non-riding officers can only be a big plus IMO.
kiwi
Well-known member
Yes, it would be GREAT to have more motorcycle cops out and about. There was some guy earlier who posted he didnt even know they *had* motorcycle cops here! lol.. and the other thread where the guy mentioned that soomeone got pulled over for tailgating a police officer on a bike
kiwi
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I would call in over my bluetooth. And if its a 911 call, I'll pick up my ****en phone.
What are there so may ****wits on this forum?.. oh right, we're in ****en ontario...
[waits patiently for warning from moderator..]
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Welcome to the forum Bike Cop, I am in Barrie also, just starting out actually. Look forward to seeing you around someday, but for a positive reason not a negative one... lol
Bike Cop
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Everyone is different, and I know some guys will wave and others won't. I will wave if I'm able to, but sometimes I have too much going on to get a hand off the bars. My ptt button (push to talk) is above my right thumb, along with the emerg lights button. The left side has an on/off button that sends the dispatcher either through the fairing speaker or the helmet speakers, and the siren and horns are on the left too. Monster thumbs would come in handy on this bike.
Once, the emerg light button fell off right when I was trying to initiate a traffic stop... I used my four way flashers, hand signals, and the siren to get the job done.
Bike Cop
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Peel definitely has motorcycle officers. I don't know how many, as I'm not often in that area. Even more rare though would be RCMP motorcycles.
Roomie
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Used to see bike cops in Alberta but never out this way
Bike Cop
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The only time I've seen them is on escorts when a member of the Royal family is in town.
