Star Wars - The Force Awakens ****SPOILERS!!!!*****

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Ok. I definitely enjoyed the nostalgic nods to the previous movies.

Seems The Force isn't reference much.

I know Luke was late to learn about the force but, Rey seemed to get up to speed pretty quickly to defeat Kylo.

Kylo seemed like a whiney ***** and didn't seem too much of a bad ass. But Luke was a whiney ***** too.

Lacked some space combat. Lots of surface battles. I think it was to provide a better effect.

Lastly, it's likely just me. I think there has been a shift to feminize the franchise. Maybe I'm just a bigot and need to get with the times?




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There's a shift to feminise pretty much everything these days. But I still enjoyed the movie overall.
 
Ok. I definitely enjoyed the nostalgic nods to the previous movies.

Seems The Force isn't reference much.

I know Luke was late to learn about the force but, Rey seemed to get up to speed pretty quickly to defeat Kylo.

Kylo seemed like a Whitney ***** and didn't seem too much of a bad ***. But Luke was a Whitney ***** too.

Lacked some space combat. Lots of surface battles. I think it was to provide a better effect.

Lastly, it's likely just me. I think there has been a shift to feminize the franchise. Maybe I'm just a bigot and need to get with the times?




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Wow, everyone's first name was Whitney?

That'll girl it up alright
 
I really enjoyed Chuck Norris's cameo. I did not expect the USS Enterprise to show up at the end, but I guess it makes sense since Khan is the new Emperor, I guess JJ Abrams is going to tie the two series together (what will nerds have to fight about after that!). I am glad this was the last movie for Nemoy with the Star Trek tie in. Jar Jar as the new Dark Lord was a little weird but they had to tie that character up. Luke and Leia's Albino banjo playing kid was also weird, I bet he figures into the next one even more.
 
Sorry, Whitney Houston was in the movie? I didn't notice. Damn. I'll have to watch it again. That's what happens when I see it at the VIP cinema with the fully reclining seats and a pitcher of beer in front of me.
 
I generally liked it for the eye candy and the pleasant surprise that Abrams had basically preserved the overall "feel" of the SW universe. But a few things bugged me.

First nit: Unoriginal
It was basically an uncreative re-telling of A New Hope. From a woebegone protagonist living on a sand-planet to secret data stored on little droid pursued by the Empire, er First Order to another cantina band to another confrontation on a suspiciously-flimsy structure spanning a vast, empty space to another "Death Star" replete with trench and vulnerable spot open to attack that is ultimately destroyed but not before destroying a planet or two.

This doesn't feel like 30 years after the events of VI, it feels like 38 years ago in our time...

Second nit: A star-eating Death Star?
Okay, it's bigger and "badder" but, really, another one? And the new Death Star is a modified planet that consumes the energy of an entire star to power its weapon? This seems like a needless destruction of the mystery of what powered the original DSs. In Empire, we saw a vast, wonderous interior space containing a massive "reactor" that had to be destroyed. While we didn't really know how that reactor worked or what energy it used we knew by its immensity that it kicked ***. The SW universe provided the plausibility that, given their mastery of gravity and 19km-long super star destroyers capable of FTL travel, engineers could develop a reactor that could concentrate enough energy from whatever to destroy planets. The overt, in-your-face obviousness of taking all of the energy from a star -- aside from exceeding even the suspension-of-disbelief needed for any movie like this -- is an unnecessary and very Abrams-like "answer" that added nothing to the movie.

Third nit: Darth MopTop
Perhaps the worst and most egregious nit.

In Empire we caught a glimpse of an injured and disfigured Vader as his helmet was being lowered in his meditation chamber (or office or whatever) when Adm. Piett enters the room. Something "human" emerged at that moment; a flawed, damaged person and perhaps there was even some sympathy elicited; what happened to him? Is that part of why he is the way he is? In TFA, the mask is removed to reveal ---- nothing at all; just the anti-climax of a mop-topped boy-band member. Turns out he's just a ****ed-up misunderstood teenager or something equally insipid. No dark back-story, no gravitas. Such a let-down.

Fourth nit: Gollum as the new "Supreme Leader" (<-- North Korea much??)
Palpatine in the original trilogy was a much creepier and more identifiable bad-guy than the too-obviously CG and inexplicably non-human-appearing Severus Snape, er, "Supreme Leader Snoke." Perhaps I would better understand this thing had I been a more of fan-boy and read canonical SW books but from the perspective of the original three movies (so 4, 5 and 6) Snoke just sort of comes out of nowhere.
 
I generally liked it for the eye candy and the pleasant surprise that Abrams had basically preserved the overall "feel" of the SW universe. But a few things bugged me.

First nit: Unoriginal
It was basically an uncreative re-telling of A New Hope. From a woebegone protagonist living on a sand-planet to secret data stored on little droid pursued by the Empire, er First Order to another cantina band to another confrontation on a suspiciously-flimsy structure spanning a vast, empty space to another "Death Star" replete with trench and vulnerable spot open to attack that is ultimately destroyed but not before destroying a planet or two.

This doesn't feel like 30 years after the events of VI, it feels like 38 years ago in our time...

Second nit: A star-eating Death Star?
Okay, it's bigger and "badder" but, really, another one? And the new Death Star is a modified planet that consumes the energy of an entire star to power its weapon? This seems like a needless destruction of the mystery of what powered the original DSs. In Empire, we saw a vast, wonderous interior space containing a massive "reactor" that had to be destroyed. While we didn't really know how that reactor worked or what energy it used we knew by its immensity that it kicked ***. The SW universe provided the plausibility that, given their mastery of gravity and 19km-long super star destroyers capable of FTL travel, engineers could develop a reactor that could concentrate enough energy from whatever to destroy planets. The overt, in-your-face obviousness of taking all of the energy from a star -- aside from exceeding even the suspension-of-disbelief needed for any movie like this -- is an unnecessary and very Abrams-like "answer" that added nothing to the movie.

Third nit: Darth MopTop
Perhaps the worst and most egregious nit.

In Empire we caught a glimpse of an injured and disfigured Vader as his helmet was being lowered in his meditation chamber (or office or whatever) when Adm. Piett enters the room. Something "human" emerged at that moment; a flawed, damaged person and perhaps there was even some sympathy elicited; what happened to him? Is that part of why he is the way he is? In TFA, the mask is removed to reveal ---- nothing at all; just the anti-climax of a mop-topped boy-band member. Turns out he's just a ****ed-up misunderstood teenager or something equally insipid. No dark back-story, no gravitas. Such a let-down.

Fourth nit: Gollum as the new "Supreme Leader" (<-- North Korea much??)
Palpatine in the original trilogy was a much creepier and more identifiable bad-guy than the too-obviously CG and inexplicably non-human-appearing Severus Snape, er, "Supreme Leader Snoke." Perhaps I would better understand this thing had I been a more of fan-boy and read canonical SW books but from the perspective of the original three movies (so 4, 5 and 6) Snoke just sort of comes out of nowhere.

You hit the nail on the head on every single point. I can't believe the ratings this movie is getting, it's way too overhyped for what is a very average Sci-Fi flick.

It felt so boring, simply because it's identical to ANH. It's bland as ****. They better have something seriously different in store for Episodes 7 & 8...
 
You hit the nail on the head on every single point. I can't believe the ratings this movie is getting, it's way too overhyped for what is a very average Sci-Fi flick.

It felt so boring, simply because it's identical to ANH. It's bland as ****. They better have something seriously different in store for Episodes 7 & 8...
Well just like for the Game of Thrones series of books, most fans who will have waited over a decade won't care that the story sucks or not...they'll want to get the next chapter in their story. Same goes with this. I also agree with Blackfin...

3rd point i think they kinda wanted to link back to Anakin. And seeing how he killed his father i think they wanted to show that he was truly evil and not just butthurt.

4th Gollum? really? wtf? theres TONS OF ORIGINAL CHARACTERS... when they came out with Darth Maul i was like "AWESOME" but is that their way of "fighting wrinkles on Yoda with more wrinkles"? anyhow, still very entertaining and ill be going to see it for a 2nd time since i got that for xmas and in 3D this time
 
I saw it. I liked it, but didn't love it.

Question: Weren't Stormstroopers clones? How come all of a sudden we see Finn? He said something about being kidnapped? So he effectively was a slave? So...all stormtroopers are slaves? I'm missing something here...
 
No matter what they did, some people are never going to like it.

I think they did a great job and even my wife enjoyed it.

Jedi girl.. awesome
Killing Han.. Awesome
Super Death Star... Awesome
Luke finally learned how to act... Awesome
Black Lead Character.... Awesome, he was pretty good.

1. Stormtroopers Aren't Clones

It's only in the prequels that all the Stormtroopers (called Clonetroopers) are clones. It was established in the Expanded Universe that the Emperor started replacing clones with regular people through recruiting and conscription. This is pretty obvious when you watch the original trilogy. Stormtroopers are all different sizes, shapes and have different voices. So, no, the Stormtroopers in Star Wars Episode VII aren't clones.
 
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Not a lot new - yes.
Still freaking awesome - yes.
Oh, and it was really refreshing to see most characters in costume rather than the half-@ssed CG effects that we endured in the prequels.
 
i see today and i tink it AWESOME!

peeples may say it not new, just same old, but i say, so what! originall star wars wasnut original...just based upon collection of old stories and myths. but, yous knows, ther are manny NEW tings too!

i LOVVED the suuper wide shots! just give it so much more perspuctive, in terms of actur's heights. and love the evill charactar! he's verry tall and hunky! love! :love7::love8: :naka:

lov also the light sable battle! verry raw and emotionall! nothing fancy, whitch made things that much more better! u can really feel feelingns! plus, with the sounds, it makes the light sable seem 1,000,000 times more powerfull than original! like!

i tink the kids who see this will see the majic like when those saw original one. this verry good!

my only two things:
  1. whats wit the supremie leader?! oh, no like. just look stoopid!
  2. why the black guy and white gurl have to be friends (no love story like han & lea)? does disney have something against inter-racialls?
  3. why doesnut chewie become captain? is he nut good enough? from what i saw, the girl takes controls at end, and not chewie-baakka!

it too bad, tho that disney is going to com up with star wars thing every year to really milk this and our wallets! that, NO LIKE!
 
oh, and, HOLY SMOKES! theater was SOOOOO LOUD! still hav headacke! ahhh! :toothy3::glasses10:


some other thinges:


  1. do u tink that han & lea were bad parents? why did their hunky son turn to darkside? or, do you think the evil vilaine just had mental problems? maybe he just need a girlfriend (Or boyfrend)?
  2. also, whatso appeeling about darkside? its nut like they give you unlimited sex with hot girls (or boys). it just seems more like slave labor to emperere! no fun!
 
2 other tings ocurred to me!


  1. when han & his hunky son meet on brige...why ddidnt' hunky son feel han's scent. han wasnt very far away. as u remamber, it was han who called out "BENNN!"
  2. i thought about this much...both Dart Vader & Hunky Son wuld lieklly score very high on Hare's psycopathy checklist (meaning their both psychos). SOOOO, nut only is force strong in family. BUT, ALSO psycopaths, too! VERY INTURESTING! its nut this DARK side, but really is mentall illness is strong in there family!
 
StarWars Thread - SPOILER ALERT !!!!

SPOILER ALERT, DO NOT READ IF YOU DONT WANT TO KNOW..

So we can freely discuss this movie.

I grew a up a huge StarWars fan. Sure this movie had action but I felt they changed the whole movie into a modern teen action movie like "divergent" and threw in some StarWars for flavour. It wasn't "Star Wars " to me.

1. You have a janitor who picks up a light sabre and fights Kylo Ren who is an elite user of the force

2. Ray discovers she has the force and within a day is using mind control and telekinesis, which took Luke Skywalker four years to learn.

3. How does Ray understand wookie? No one spoke wookie.

4. Those creatures eat everyone else but decide to just carry Finn in their hands.

5. What's with Finn acting like Chris Rock at times, just because he is black they have to do this? Lando Calarisian never did that

6. Why was chewy, Rae, Finn standing there and watching Kylo on the cat walk? They did not know he was solo's son and had a perfect opportunity to shoot him.

There is more but I just wanted to give an idea. Let the discussion begin.




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Re: StarWars Thread - SPOILER ALERT !!!!

i just wanted say:

LAYA's force skils SUCK big time! :director:

laya was the one who eggd Han to comfront there son, Hunky villaine. Han even tell Laya that he thught son was lost cause. But, Laya kept on sayin that she culd still had good feelings bout him. Oh, dear lord! Laya was soooo wrong, as we all kno what happend! :angry8: if only Laya had just stopped, then Han WOULD STILL BE ALIVE! :protest:

The moral of story: DON"T TRUST MAMA INTUITIAN!

But, let's all pray for Laya, tho! She must be feeling sooo BAD and guiltee!

may force be with you, LAYA, but plz stop using it!!! :angel10:
 
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