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So it's that time again....winter pasttimes?

crankcall said:
Don’t go look , that’s how it starts . You end up with a 30ft boat in the side yard you’ll finish to take you to the Caribbean. 19 yrs later and 72grand in , your kids will offer free to anyone that can move it .

( I’m having one trucked up from Sarnia) guy allegedly had 30k spent on an e drive engineered system , in a 1972 sailboat, about 3x the value of the boat .

It’s a sickness , stay away from boats


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I had one family friend with a big wooden cruiser (~40'?) in their back yard. He wasnt handy. Paying someone to repair/restore a wooden boat is about the fastest way to burn money. After a few decades the stands went through the hull and he admitted defeat and paid someone to take it away.

A friend of a friend built a sailing trimaran ~35' from scratch. Cut the trees, dried the wood, sawed the lumber, etc. It was supposed to be his retirement home. Took him decades from start to finish. Sailed it down to the carribean. After a month enjoying life, some drunk asshat in a power cruiser went through his boat when it was moored and destroyed it. His soul was crushed. He came back to canada and didnt last too long. Tragic.
 
nobbie48 said:
Nice! I stopped building model airplanes when I found out that for the same money I could build a small boat and actually go for a ride.

A shut in buddy builds boats from kits and again, I could build a ful size something else for what he pays for a Dumont. They are nice though.
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My son gave me a plank on bulkhead pond yacht model kit he got at a yard sale everything else is scratch built.
 
crankcall said:
Don’t go look , that’s how it starts . You end up with a 30ft boat in the side yard you’ll finish to take you to the Caribbean. 19 yrs later and 72grand in , your kids will offer free to anyone that can move it .

( I’m having one trucked up from Sarnia) guy allegedly had 30k spent on an e drive engineered system , in a 1972 sailboat, about 3x the value of the boat .

It’s a sickness , stay away from boats


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30 or 40 years ago the marina in Port Credit had numerous ambitious projects on the go. The designer flogged plans as "Build a 30 foot sailboat in six months for $10K." Six years and $80K later the wife says it's me or the boat, a no win situation. If he chooses the boat, divorce is immediate. If he sells the partly completed boat for a couple of thousand dollars (if he's lucky), every time he sees a similar boat he thinks "I could have had one of those if it wasn't for you. B****"

Building a thirty footer in six months for $10K might be possible if a garbage scow finish was acceptable, a telephone pole was used as a mast and you had a lot of dumb friends for slave labour.

I think the marina changed hands and someone realized that during the winter the building was jammed stern to bow and sheer to sheer with tens of millions of dollars in yachts in storage. Inaccessibly buried in the middle were pockets of power equipment, frayed extension cords and barrels of flammables. An insurance agent would have a heart attack.

Building anything today tends to be a labour of love.
 
mimico_polak said:
Say what? You build boats!? This I gotta see!
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It started with me musing over a comment in a yacht design book that the most graceful sheer line was elliptical, a circle viewed at an angle. Since I had the shop space I drew up some plans and wasted a bunch of time.

There was an oversight in that the ends had very sharp entries. A typical gunnel would either look truncated or like a bowsprit. At the critical time I came across a bunch of relatives in New Zealand and one sent a parcel with dolphins on it. The Maori consider them protectors. Problem solved.
 
nobbie48 said:
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It started with me musing over a comment in a yacht design book that the most graceful sheer line was elliptical, a circle viewed at an angle. Since I had the shop space I drew up some plans and wasted a bunch of time.

There was an oversight in that the ends had very sharp entries. A typical gunnel would either look truncated or like a bowsprit. At the critical time I came across a bunch of relatives in New Zealand and one sent a parcel with dolphins on it. The Maori consider them protectors. Problem solved.
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That's a nice looking boat. How is it to paddle? I have a cedar prospector in my parents garage as I don't have room for it here. It's a dream to paddle but my wife doesn't love it as it you need to treat it like a delicate flower. She prefers her parents coleman pig that you can crash into things with impunity. She's never tried to solo the cedar leaned over. It's a magical experience.
 
nobbie48 said:
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It started with me musing over a comment in a yacht design book that the most graceful sheer line was elliptical, a circle viewed at an angle. Since I had the shop space I drew up some plans and wasted a bunch of time.

There was an oversight in that the ends had very sharp entries. A typical gunnel would either look truncated or like a bowsprit. At the critical time I came across a bunch of relatives in New Zealand and one sent a parcel with dolphins on it. The Maori consider them protectors. Problem solved.
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Wow! That's beautiful. Great job (coming from someone that knows nothing about boats...except that they should float above water).
 
nobbie48 said:
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It started with me musing over a comment in a yacht design book that the most graceful sheer line was elliptical, a circle viewed at an angle. Since I had the shop space I drew up some plans and wasted a bunch of time.

There was an oversight in that the ends had very sharp entries. A typical gunnel would either look truncated or like a bowsprit. At the critical time I came across a bunch of relatives in New Zealand and one sent a parcel with dolphins on it. The Maori consider them protectors. Problem solved.
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stitch and glue?
 
GreyGhost said:
That's a nice looking boat. How is it to paddle? I have a cedar prospector in my parents garage as I don't have room for it here. It's a dream to paddle but my wife doesn't love it as it you need to treat it like a delicate flower. She prefers her parents coleman pig that you can crash into things with impunity. She's never tried to solo the cedar leaned over. It's a magical experience.
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What's a 17' Cedar Prospector weigh in at, or is it smaller?
We had a Kevlar version, but the gunnels rotted. It's been sitting under the cottage for a while now.
 
This winter I'm getting back into aquariums, Luckily I have most of the aquariums already (just empty)
And with a lot of equipment being much less expensive now (thanks Amazon) I look forward to expanding my hobby and not bursting my budget.
If you're into fish, let me know always looking to discuss the hobby or trade fish equipment.
 
Baggsy said:
What's a 17' Cedar Prospector weigh in at, or is it smaller?
We had a Kevlar version, but the gunnels rotted. It's been sitting under the cottage for a while now.
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I can't remember how much it weighs. Enough that portages aren't all that fun but it is possible to carry the canoe and a pack in one shot if you have to. In the ballpark of 70 to 80 lbs. It is either a 16 or 17' (I think 16 but I was waffling so I don't remember which one I eventually picked). It's ribbed and clearglass so there are heavier examples available. I changed out the yoke to make it far more comfortable to carry.

Not mine but similar. I don't have doubled up ribs through the center. Mine has a much deeper cherry yoke.

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Jampy00 said:
This winter I'm getting back into aquariums, Luckily I have most of the aquariums already (just empty)
And with a lot of equipment being much less expensive now (thanks Amazon) I look forward to expanding my hobby and not bursting my budget.
If you're into fish, let me know always looking to discuss the hobby or trade fish equipment.
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Fresh or salt? My dad had fresh for decades then stopped for a while while he was a snowbird, now he is older and not going to florida he has a few tanks again. My buddy had a ridiculous saltwater setup with maintenance tanks/filters in the basement, in-wall plumbing and the display tank in the living room. It was awesome to look at but so much money. When he moved, he kept the display tank going for a bit and then sold it.
 
GreyGhost said:
That's a nice looking boat. How is it to paddle? I have a cedar prospector in my parents garage as I don't have room for it here. It's a dream to paddle but my wife doesn't love it as it you need to treat it like a delicate flower. She prefers her parents coleman pig that you can crash into things with impunity. She's never tried to solo the cedar leaned over. It's a magical experience.
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I've only gotten it wet once. The hard chine and two short keels make it subject to wandering a bit so I just added a full length keel. We'll see when the weather warms.

Like a bike, leaning a canoe makes a novice nervous. Can you get chicken strips on a canoe?
 
nobbie48 said:
I've only gotten it wet once. The hard chine and two short keels make it subject to wandering a bit so I just added a full length keel. We'll see when the weather warms.

Like a bike, leaning a canoe makes a novice nervous. Can you get chicken strips on a canoe?
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It's a fun lesson in primary vs secondary stability. The cedar feels really tippy but you can roll the gunnel under water and then flatten it out with no drama. The coleman pig feels more stable but if someone leans over too far you get a snap roll that there is no recovering from.
 
timtune said:
stitch and glue?
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Mixed bag. Spliced plywood sides and a convex cedar strip bottom, all epoxy coated.

I was concerned that the bottom was too light , 1/4" cedar with a light epoxy cover. Then I accidentally dropped it from where it was hung and found out the problem with ratchet straps. Once they unwound there wasn't enough strap on the capstan to stop the canoe from dropping four feet to the workbench. It only scuffed the paint.

I estimate the weight at 65 pounds and would have gone with a thinner plywood on the sides.
 
Baggsy said:
What's a 17' Cedar Prospector weigh in at, or is it smaller?
We had a Kevlar version, but the gunnels rotted. It's been sitting under the cottage for a while now.
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That's a popular canoe and worth replacing the gunnels. Bill Mason (Path of the Paddle) favoured them IIRC.
 
GreyGhost said:
Fresh or salt? My dad had fresh for decades then stopped for a while while he was a snowbird, now he is older and not going to florida he has a few tanks again. My buddy had a ridiculous saltwater setup with maintenance tanks/filters in the basement, in-wall plumbing and the display tank in the living room. It was awesome to look at but so much money. When he moved, he kept the display tank going for a bit and then sold it.
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Just fresh water African Cichlids in one tank and planted community tank for the other. Did the salt water thing and while enjoyable the costs were too high for me. In the process of setting up a 3rd 75G tanks for some Cichlid fry I have.
 
And my favourite past time of all...looking on kijiji for kayaks, skiis, toys, LEGO, and not buying anything as I remember I don't have the time :(
 
nobbie48 said:
Ignorant me. Lego was, in my mind, some cheap snap together plastic mini-bricks. Then I wandered into a Lego store. Choke. Build a space ship for a few hundred dollars.
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I agree, I was shocked at how much Lego is today. For larger sets they are in the 100's or close to a 1000 range in pricing.
I can think of cheaper things to step on in the middle of the night..
 
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