Shooting in Connecticut
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If you have a problem with anything I actually wrote, then address it. I couldn't make it any more user-friendly than I did.
BTW both my "walls of text" were shorter than johnp's, and at least mine contained original content with context and references. If that's a problem for you, perhaps you shouldn't be playing in this thread.
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johnp
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nice find. thanks.
Nice kick in the face to grieving parents who just lost a child.
I'm unlikely to read the 1500 page report that will be written outlining the detals of the Connecticut shooting but common talk is that the kid had mental issues. The first victim was his own mother who was shot apparently in the face, an obvious anger issue.
How did he get the mothers guns? Were they laying on the coffee table or did he put a knife to her throat and force her to open the gun safe?
How does a mentally ill person get a gun? Easy. Just because they are mentally ill it doesn't mean they are stupid and can't think or act. Also if they can't get a gun they can get a knife, poison, molotov cocktail, car etc.
In the USA gun ownership is a right. Here it is a priveledge. A whole different attitude evolves.
I am basically anti-gun but if I moved to the USA I'm not sure if I would be as set in my ways. Some deep thought would be needed.
I want to scream every time I hear the moronic "If guns were made illegal only criminals would have guns" but sadly that has to be taken into consideration should the USA decide to disarm. How do you get the criminals to turn their guns in first? Until someone comes up with a plan this thread is just shooting blanks.
ItIsWhatItIs
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I have zero regard for the opp. On the news an orillia officer laid weapons charges against kids who were waving around an air pistol in a park. Kids are kids. Ontario cops are a bunch of pussys, perhaps ontario cops need to be sent to the roughest cities in the US for a year. If they survive, then they can be hired in ontario as opp. Instead we have whining sissy cops wasting tax dollars on stupid charges.
ItIsWhatItIs
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The attorney is going about it all wrong. The kid is six, where did he learn to act this way? perhaps the school itself. If I were the parents I would launch a mutli million dollar lawsuit against the school for derilect of duty. Translation, failing to school/educate a six year old. This Society harassment against a kid. Once the school is hit with this lawsuit, the teacher will be dusting off their resume.
RandomHero
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Sounds like that kid was just being a little ****. Don't think he deserved to be suspended, but maybe he will think twice about trying to **** with his teachers.
I lost interest after 3 minutes. Does he spread any misinformation that hasn't been spread a few times already in this thread? I wouldn't want to miss them.
rmemedic
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Why are you anti-gun?
What kind of background growing up did you come from? And aside from the things you hear in the media, what bad personal experiences do you have with fire arms?
I'm asking this because while I can understand some people don't like guns, and most people don't understand much about guns other than they have a trigger and things come out the loud end, I just can't get why people feel the need to strip guns from the hands of law abiding owners.
Myself, I grew up with it. I can't even remember the first time I saw a gun because it was that early in my childhood. And while I always knew the rules about guns, and what they were capable of, I never looked at them as something "evil".
My christmas holidays I spent 5 days throughout the 2 weeks out hunting ducks/geese (which ended up being eaten at Christmas) or Coyotes which have been getting in to live stock. I also purchased a new rifle that I've been wanting for a few years now. Best part of it, is that it's one of the few things my dad and I actually enjoy doing together and the only time I spent with him while I was home was when we were enjoying the outdoors.
I know so many people with guns, at least half of my friends and family are regular shooters. It is just that common in communities across Canada.
I get what they can be used for, and I've been a target a few times and I STILL don't see them as anything evil.
That said, I do believe in gun control, and there are certain weapons that just don't belong in the hands of regular people, but I don't agree with stripping something away that is so important to so many people. For me, that would take away a huge part of who I am. It's a way of life for a lot of people, but it's not something that a lot of people see or understand.
I had to stay in a hotel saturday night in TO, due to travel schedules and I had my shotgun and rifle with me. I couldn't leave them in my truck over night due to risk of theft so I literally had to sneak them up to my room, despite the fact that they were legally locked in cases and everything was done as per the regs, I waited a while for a knock at my hotel door from the cops because someone doesn't understand the law or just has a hate on for guns.
Other than the lie about how the look of guns doesn't influence gun culture, you mean.
Growing up with something might take away perspective.
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rmemedic
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And I think that growing up without being subjected to something in a real world environment leaves people to not understand things.
I can say that for myself I was at least given the exposure to make my own decision about it with seeing both the positive sides to it first hand, and also hearing from all the negative sources that everyone is exposed to.
I wonder what Jane Crebas' real world opinion is. Can we not have one without the other? So far it sure looks like no.
Or to put it another way: carnage on the hiways I'll put up with because, you know, I got places to go but food I don't need to shoot that's what food courts are for.
Or to put it another way: carnage on the hiways I'll put up with because, you know, I got places to go but food I don't need to shoot that's what food courts are for.
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