If I was doing it again, I would probably get one of the trainers with the bike included (kickr bike etc). Lots of money though.
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Running.. ugghh
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Basically it's as comfortable as (your current bike comfort -5)
Eventually once you build up tolerance and the butt becomes stronger, it can go down to a -1 and even 0 for shorter rides. But after 1h, 2h rides it's kinda difficult
2 hours on a stationary trainer is butt torture, and I've tried everything from a carbon saddle with no padding at all to a super soft and plush cruiser saddle. They all suck past the 90-min mark in my experience. I've actually chosen a lower-volume training plan in TrainerRoad just to avoid the butt numbness that comes with 2-hour workouts.
The rocker plate thing sounds interesting.
The rocker plate thing sounds interesting.
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If I don't turn into a slob in April then I'll also sign up for Mississauga 1/2. In the past I've run Around the Bay at the end of March and then I stop all working out until September, but hoping to keep it consistent this year. I did the Mississauga 1/2 some years ago and if they use the same route from Square One down to the lake, it's a lot of downhill too. There are some uphill sections, but I found it a very fast run.
Since Around the Bay is also quite hilly in the last 10k, to train for it we would run the High Park area, since it's easy to plot out a very tough route of all the sideroads around the park. I also like running Collegeway and Mississauga Rd in both directions on either side of Dundas. This is also a nice hilly ladder route we used to do near Jack Darling Park which was good for hill training:
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When you guys are talking about trainers are you talking about stationary bikes or proper road bikes on an indoor trainer? Or both?
This is what I put my road bike on and really like it:
Saris Fluid Bike Trainer: Smooth and Quiet Indoor Cycling Experience
Experience realistic, smooth, and quiet indoor cycling sessions with the Saris Fluid Bike Trainer. This trainer offers consistent resistance and minimal noise.
www.saris.com
On my road bike I have a gel cover on my gel seat and it's still torture after 45 minutes. The most I can do is 1hr tops, but I guess it's like long distance moto riding, you just have to put in the seat time and build up the tolerance.
Proper road bikes in a trainer.When you guys are talking about trainers are you talking about stationary bikes or proper road bikes on an indoor trainer? Or both?
This is what I put my road bike on and really like it:
Saris Fluid Bike Trainer: Smooth and Quiet Indoor Cycling Experience
Experience realistic, smooth, and quiet indoor cycling sessions with the Saris Fluid Bike Trainer. This trainer offers consistent resistance and minimal noise.
On my road bike I have a gel cover on my gel seat and it's still torture after 45 minutes. The most I can do is 1hr tops, but I guess it's like long distance moto riding, you just have to put in the seat time and build up the tolerance.
Fluid2 is a great dumb trainer. I have a fluid2 head in the garage if anyone has a mag and wants to upgrade. If someone wanted to buy a dumb trainer now, I would probably lead them towards kurt kinetic as it has some flex and is more comfortable.
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I have some friends that have echelons (peleton clone from costco) and they love them. They are an exercise bike with classes. A much different experience than a bike in a trainer. Normally spin/fitness bike people and cyclists are mutually exclusive groups.
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How is one trainer more comfortable than another?
Kinetic has rubber mounts built in that allow quite a bit of rocking motion. Most other trainers are rigid or pretend to be flexible (cough Kickr Axis feet) but are basically rigid.
Yeah sorry, I meant "rigid" trainer (as opposed to the Kinetic stuff that rocks), not stationary.
I use a road bike in an old Minoura rim-drive trainer, which I do prefer over the more common tire-driven dumb trainers. The main downside is that the max power/resistance is quite low compared to modern smart trainers, so I can't even get out of the saddle.
60 minutes is fine. 90 is tolerable. 2 hours is a painful accomplishment.
I'll be looking at an Elite Direto XR when funds allow, at least I'll be able to get out of the saddle a bit.
I use a road bike in an old Minoura rim-drive trainer, which I do prefer over the more common tire-driven dumb trainers. The main downside is that the max power/resistance is quite low compared to modern smart trainers, so I can't even get out of the saddle.
60 minutes is fine. 90 is tolerable. 2 hours is a painful accomplishment.
I'll be looking at an Elite Direto XR when funds allow, at least I'll be able to get out of the saddle a bit.
But being able to say you've done 2 hours on the trainer feels like the biggest accomplishment
I kinda have to build up to that with my stupid lofty goals.
@shanekingsley
that's a nice route you've got there.Luckily, living in mississauga, i'm seconds away from the course so i can try to run part of the course as much as i want.
I was looking at a simple exercise bike, but now you guys got me thinking of getting a trainer and using my own bike isntead.
Kijiji here I come!
Some friends have the Peletons and they absolutely love them. Especially the 0% financing. But don't think I can justify that type of expense.
Kijiji here I come!
Some friends have the Peletons and they absolutely love them. Especially the 0% financing. But don't think I can justify that type of expense.
If you can find a cyclops/saris mag, it should be pretty cheap and I we can work something out on the fluid head for a big upgrade (quieter, smoother, etc).
Echelons at costco are ~$1000 and have a year or two of "free" classes included. Walmart has them for slightly less money but on has a few months of classes included. Classes add up quick.
I'm sure Peloton is fine, but you can get the exact same results with your own bike and a TrainerRoad subscription. TR's adaptive training is genius:
road.cc
I guess it depends what your goal is. I'm training specifically to increase my FTP and be a better cyclist. Even the running is just a way to build a better aerobic base for cycling.
TrainerRoad rolls out AI-powered Adaptive Training to all cyclists following beta testing success
TrainerRoad’s testing revealed a 50% decrease in failed workouts, plus riders were 20% more likely to increase their power to weight ratio
I guess it depends what your goal is. I'm training specifically to increase my FTP and be a better cyclist. Even the running is just a way to build a better aerobic base for cycling.
Now that things are locking down again...most likely used fitness equipment is about to start rising in value rapidly.
If you are considering a wheel on trainer for your bike, factor in the cost of a trainer tire. Regular tires don't handle trainer duty well (black rubber flakes everywhere and short life). Direct drive trainer avoids those issues but costs a lot more.
So... Peloton, most people who get it don't regret it. If you are not a cyclist (aka you don't cycle much outdoors) this is probably the best option, you can alternatively get another brand of bike (bowflex, schwinn, etc) that is non peloton branded and get the subscription which is counterintuitively less expensive if you don't have the peloton branded one...you just wont get the "live"competitive data from workouts that are done with real trainers in real time.
Wheel on trainer is great as it gets you in the indoor trainer game, you have to choose your indoor trainer app of choice, you have to choose whether its going to be a smart wheel on trainer $$ or a non-smart (dumb as its often called as a joke) trainer $, if you get a smart trainer then you can connect to most apps and have it control the workout, if you get a dumb one you might have to get a speed and/or cadence sensor to interface with it...or you can simply go with youtube videos like this channel or GCN.
Then if you feel a bit more serious, you can get a direct drive trainer $$$..$ which almost all are "smart" so resistance is controlled for you if you want and data is sent to whatever app of your choice. Advantages to that one are smoothness, better accuracy for your data and usually better responsiveness. Also your rear tire doesnt need to be changed/doesnt get used.
If you already have a compatible bike, wheel on trainer is a good idea, but you need to have the tech around it to run it (laptop, tablet, tv, etc) and that requires a tiny bit of research
If not Peloton would be great, especially if you're crosstraining with your running. You go with a type of workout and get to it. No need for training plans or to browse too much, choose a trainer and go. No worrying about tech, its all there
Wheel on trainer is great as it gets you in the indoor trainer game, you have to choose your indoor trainer app of choice, you have to choose whether its going to be a smart wheel on trainer $$ or a non-smart (dumb as its often called as a joke) trainer $, if you get a smart trainer then you can connect to most apps and have it control the workout, if you get a dumb one you might have to get a speed and/or cadence sensor to interface with it...or you can simply go with youtube videos like this channel or GCN.
Then if you feel a bit more serious, you can get a direct drive trainer $$$..$ which almost all are "smart" so resistance is controlled for you if you want and data is sent to whatever app of your choice. Advantages to that one are smoothness, better accuracy for your data and usually better responsiveness. Also your rear tire doesnt need to be changed/doesnt get used.
If you already have a compatible bike, wheel on trainer is a good idea, but you need to have the tech around it to run it (laptop, tablet, tv, etc) and that requires a tiny bit of research
If not Peloton would be great, especially if you're crosstraining with your running. You go with a type of workout and get to it. No need for training plans or to browse too much, choose a trainer and go. No worrying about tech, its all there
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'Compact and Cute alternative to the Peloton'
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Cycling is so boring, prefer 2 wheels with an engine 
But I could only fit stationary bike at home and have to Netflix, online shop, Facebook, etc to get through it. End of the day it's just to burn calories, the weights come in separately. So I don't see the point paying for classes. But I also don't do classes at the gym so.
Can't wait for my outdoor midnight running to return.
But I could only fit stationary bike at home and have to Netflix, online shop, Facebook, etc to get through it. End of the day it's just to burn calories, the weights come in separately. So I don't see the point paying for classes. But I also don't do classes at the gym so.
Can't wait for my outdoor midnight running to return.
Display of your lizard brain? ahaha that's pretty awesomeThe struggles of home gym are real
On side note, I've got neck muscle injury a month ago, and using the bar wasn't best decision.
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