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Running from police.

Let's make no mistake, the Law Enforcement profession is a career that is attractive to bullies. Of course there are power tripping meatheads out there, but the hiring process is extremely rigorous and has been designed to attempt to weed out as many bullies as possible. A friend of mine previously dreamed of getting on the force, he made sure that he fulfilled all of the prerequisites and got glowing references from 9 different people in different fields of expertise, did a ton of volunteer work and overall appeared superficially to be a model for what you want in a police officer. But if you talked to him for 5 minutes or more you would discover that he was a bit of an obnoxious shoot first ask later kind of guy, he got interviews for every force that operates near the GTA including the OPP and didn't get in.

That was a long lead in to say that the odds of you pulling a prick cop are relatively slim. If you have a good cop, he will probably run the F-U test on you as soon as he gets near you, the attitude that you approach him with will dictate the severity or leniency of his charges quickly.

The consequences of running can take what might have been a minor misdemeanor charge (20 over) and make things MUCH MUCH worse. Like another poster said, everyone here is afraid of the cops because every police story posted here is negative, and lets not forget the biased nature of posting a story about one side of a conflict, especially on a forum like this, which for every level headed sane and mature rider, contains at least one hot headed muscle flexxing meathead, who is just about guaranteed not to give a fair and balanced account of events.

Don't bother running because the consequences for yourself and others in my opinion are never worth the risk.

Also don't forget that when you get your bike up to speed it is not just a vehicle but a high speed projectile, when things go wrong, the rider is not the only person who stands to get hurt.
 
eng2007 said:
IMO the uniform comes with a persona. A nice cop is just a lazy one.

I went to Ottawa last summer to pick up a bike and rode it back not yet having switched my insurance, registration or license plate over to the new one. Close to home in the city I stall the bike off an intersection so not wanting to lose face I rip it off the line and lean it hard making a left turn next thing I know I'm lit up. Its dark, Im on a bike Im not familiar with so I stop. To add to the list, they run my record and see the stunting charge from the previous year (which was dropped to a speeding in court, btw) so I'm pretty much thinking my drivign career in Ontario is over.

Anyway by the end of it I'm actualy using the cops cell phone to dial a buddy with a van to come pick up me and the bike from the onramp. He wouldnt let me ride out of there but I didnt leave with any yellow paperwork. Much as I appreciate it I shouldve been sacked.

So with that in hand my luck is pretty thinly drawn. Before thise when I would stop the officers would ALWAYS thank me for stopping. Every time.

Ive dodged radar countless times and had to get away from a few who clocked me sitting in their cars. Either way I had a head start. If I was lit up right behind me its like some guys have said, you have to know if youre doing it way before you twist your wrist.
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Hey Eng, I am a little bit confused about your story, you start by implying that cops in general aren't nice, but then give a story about how you clearly made some MAJOR infractions (no insurance) and the cop was super chill about it. Are you stating that he was just being lazy or that you had a good experience? Sounds to me like if you had taken off and gotten caught you would have been COOOOOKKKKKKEEEEEEDDDDDD... I did see the line at the end that states that it is really situational more than anything, but don't you think your experiences would suggest that maybe its just a better idea to have a decent conversation with the cops rather than roll the dice.
 
Im riding home last night and I nail it off a light and stuff it through this 90 degree turn... Next thing I know there are cherries behind me. I wanted to run but my wife was back there somewhere on her cbr 125 so I slow to get a better look. It was an ambulance. lol I was so ready to run.
 
Kenzie said:
Hey Eng, I am a little bit confused about your story, you start by implying that cops in general aren't nice, but then give a story about how you clearly made some MAJOR infractions (no insurance) and the cop was super chill about it. Are you stating that he was just being lazy or that you had a good experience? Sounds to me like if you had taken off and gotten caught you would have been COOOOOKKKKKKEEEEEEDDDDDD... I did see the line at the end that states that it is really situational more than anything, but don't you think your experiences would suggest that maybe its just a better idea to have a decent conversation with the cops rather than roll the dice.
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Having been victimized by HTA172 I have a lot less positve energy towards our boys in blue, our laws and the judicial system in general. I went through a link in this thread where a rider was harassed for pulling out of an intersection much like I did and was labelled a 172ist.

So in my game there are two sets of dice now. The first is the diplomatic approach and the second reminds you to have your mirrors adjusted each time you take to the streets.

My experience was just plain weird. These cops are acting like bonnie and clyde when i take my lid off and going through the formalities while tryign to keep a steady hand and then were laughing together as im loading up my bike. I cant help but say I felt lucky in this situation but even if I had my paperwork in order I think luck would still play a part at the scene. I know theres a ******** of paperwork that goes with each 172 charge.:lol:

True, you are riskign much more when you decide to jet, but since we live in a capitalistic society money has a direct impact on quality of life and to some poeple heavy fines and the inability to drive can be as life altering as a cast.

To those that see the injustices in our system its also a form of protest. I for one refuse to be a part of the funding forumla for Toronto Police. Soon I think sport bikes will be barred from teh streets not for 'safety' issues but because they are a hole in the highly profitable speeding business for our finest.
 
adri said:
Cager gets let off, big shock, try the same thing on your bike and let us know how it unfolds.
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I was coming south on highway 12 from Port Perry one night at about 11pm and it was cold so I was ripping it home doing 156 in a 80. I saw an oncoming car so I turned off my high beam and saw in my side mirror the disco lights turn on and the car turn around. I could have ran and got away but I pulled over right away. Both me and my passenger got off, took off our helmets, turned off the bike and was polite to the cop. He checked my license, confirmed I was doing 150+ and said he was expecting to see me riding with an M1. Asked me where I was going in such a hurry and I explained I was cold and rushing to get home, didn't realize how fast I was going. He gave me back my license, told me to slow down for the safety of my passenger and sent me on my way. This was before 172 so I can't say now that I'd have pulled over but with a passenger's life at risk if I do something stupid I'd definitely pull over. But now I just don't go fast enough to worry about 172 so I don't have to worry about running. If you're doing something that warrants running then the ticket for running is likely the least of your concerns.
 
My last ticket was on a bike a few years ago. Bought the bike Tuesday got the ticket Wednesday.

It was a radar setup on Derry Road. Cop was OK and dropped the speed to 15 from 23 over. We even yapped a bit and he was telling me jokes. I think he would have let me off if it wasn't one of those tag team radar stops with about four cops running the blitz.

Being polite never hurts. Even if the cop is being chippy it might be the spin off from the last jerk he wrote up. Maybe you can't help your situation but it doesn't hurt to make things easier for the next victim.

Someone (possibly a cop) told me if they are walking to you with the ticket book in their hand it's a done deal. If the book isn't in their hand you have a better chance of getting off. That was a while back and I get the impression they run everything through the computer now.
 
so absolutely true, and now people run. What do they expect when the laws are so harsh. We already pay enough in insurance etc etc like he said whether you win or lose in court, your still gonna pay an arm and a leg. This is why people run.

I also agree about the radios they don't help catch everytime, they are not as helpful as you might think. I have a scanner too

JohnnyP636 said:
Yes every time!

You can buy a police scanner for a few hundred dollars and listen for yourself, or hang around some tow truck driver friends for a while and you will over hear some chases. Then you will realize that radios dont catch people, they can help the police catch people but aren't the magical device that catches people every time that some people make them out to be...

OP's question "Do you thing the aggressiveness of the police force is to blame for this"

Not so much the police force but the new racing laws, I believe that has turned alot people into runners that normally would not have with the old laws. It used to be very different, do a wheelie or something stupid and you got a 6 point careless driving ticket with a summons to court. $600 and a good paralegal and you could either have that charge dismissed completely or lowered to a lesser charge and fine, but you kept your bike and kept riding. Now your bike is being towed away, your lic suspended, and your loose about $2000+.....Win or loose in court and you still loose in the end....That IMO has changed alot of peoples reaction when being caught doing something stupid on a bike...People that would never run before, are going too now...
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eng2007 said:
Having been victimized by HTA172 I have a lot less positve energy towards our boys in blue, our laws and the judicial system in general. I went through a link in this thread where a rider was harassed for pulling out of an intersection much like I did and was labelled a 172ist.

So in my game there are two sets of dice now. The first is the diplomatic approach and the second reminds you to have your mirrors adjusted each time you take to the streets.

My experience was just plain weird. These cops are acting like bonnie and clyde when i take my lid off and going through the formalities while tryign to keep a steady hand and then were laughing together as im loading up my bike. I cant help but say I felt lucky in this situation but even if I had my paperwork in order I think luck would still play a part at the scene. I know theres a ******** of paperwork that goes with each 172 charge.:lol:

True, you are riskign much more when you decide to jet, but since we live in a capitalistic society money has a direct impact on quality of life and to some poeple heavy fines and the inability to drive can be as life altering as a cast.

To those that see the injustices in our system its also a form of protest. I for one refuse to be a part of the funding forumla for Toronto Police. Soon I think sport bikes will be barred from teh streets not for 'safety' issues but because they are a hole in the highly profitable speeding business for our finest.
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Your form of protest also includes riding without insurance does it? I don't suppose there's anyway at all that you might wonder if your actions might be why some police seem to pull bikes over more?

If your livelihood includes needing a driving licence don't you think you'd be LESS inclined to break any laws that might remove that licence?
 
I drove a car without insurance for over a year until I got hit while attempting a U-Turn. I had a great story for the cop about why I didn't have my insurance slip on me. He made me fax him the policy number the following Monday. So I faxed him an expired policy number. I got a careless charge for which he didn't show up to court for so I walked away with my car being sent to the scrap yard (fixable just didn't want to dump any more money into it) and no charges.
However the whole time I was waiting for the cop to come talk to me about my version of events and question me about my missing insurance slip I was $hitting bricks. I was worried he'd call my bluff and charge me with no insurance. He didn't even give me a ticket for fail to provide insurance card which he could have.
I was respectful (other than lying to his face) and polite. I believe this is why he didn't charge me with anything other than careless and maybe why he didn't show up to court. So moral of the story other than don't be an idiot and get insurance is: Be polite and respectful to the cop. They have a job and they're doing it. If you're having a bad day can I come to your work and be a d-bag to you? I'm sure you don't like people being a d-bag towards you at work when you're just doing your job. Sure there may be some real d-bag cops out there but I've had more good experiences than bad with cops. I could write a short story about the run ins with police I've had and how the majority of them were actually nice.
 
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Its fake,
cops are actually going after the " Lead police car" because as you can see the first police car doors dont have white doors as other cop cars behind him. And somebody just added the bike hehe. Its a cool/funny vid tho
 
baljci said:
Its fake,
cops are actually going after the " Lead police car" because as you can see the first police car doors dont have white doors as other cop cars behind him. And somebody just added the bike hehe. Its a cool/funny vid tho
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Back to the topic now please
 
Well, my friend was followed to his house and given a ticket for a bent plate. That's fine. What wasn't fine was one of the cops yelling at him and accusing him of running away from police and being a racer (in general not on this particular occasion). He also expressed a wish that all guys on super sport bikes "go around the corner really fast and kill themselves." That is a direct quote... Well done, power-tripping psycho! Just the person I want carrying a loaded weapon.

Personally, I haven't had too many encounters recently but out of about 10 times I was pulled over in my entire life, I'd say maybe 1/3 of the cops acted like human beings.

I guess it's just a type of a job that attracts a lot of people with shattered egos.
 
KRFDPSSTI said:
And i would never run, id rather loose my bike for a week, my license, my job, get fined a minimum of 2,000K, pay another 1,000 for storage...:D
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If you know what you are doing can cause you severe problems and possibly ruin your life, then stop doing those damn things and ride responsibly.
 
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DemonPig said:
Well, my friend was followed to his house and given a ticket for a bent plate. That's fine. What wasn't fine was one of the cops yelling at him and accusing him of running away from police and being a racer (in general not on this particular occasion). He also expressed a wish that all guys on super sport bikes "go around the corner really fast and kill themselves." That is a direct quote... Well done, power-tripping psycho! Just the person I want carrying a loaded weapon.

Personally, I haven't had too many encounters recently but out of about 10 times I was pulled over in my entire life, I'd say maybe 1/3 of the cops acted like human beings.

I guess it's just a type of a job that attracts a lot of people with shattered egos.
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Most cops are power tripping scumbags. It's the human nature, you give someone power over others, he/she is bound to abuse it. Even the so called good cops will eventually abuse their power in some way.

The only way to stop this is to monitor all of them while they are on duty with both constant video surveillance and audio recordings, take away some of that authority and appoint multiple civilian watch groups.
 
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