Record profits aren't enough

[Jampy00]

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Job and Security can no longer be used in the same sentence. If you think you are valuable to the company you work for, think again. Far to long have Canadians kept their heads stuck in the sand when it comes to employment, people doing the same job for the same company for 50 years means very little to most companies and the actual employee now. Very sad state we are in, we are lost...

 

[LePhillou]

Who knows, maybe we could get a boatload of Haitians here to replace them. We can pay them 50c/day

turns out im haitian!

and @nfg, job security in post office? in this day and age where people use mail less and less and everything is done electronically i dont think so .
although for bigger parcel delivery, its still quite popular but mail systems are on the decline.


with this whole situation, as it was mentionned earlier, RBC is getting all the coverage but its already in place in other banks and other big corporations and with the clothes you wear, the cellphones you use and the cars you drive, etc.
No its not right, but it wont stop them from doing it.

 

[mxs]

The CEO of Royal Bank of Canada is Gordon Nixon. DO make sure you send him a letter explaining why you are cancelling all of your RBC accounts and will no longer do business with them until they reverse this stupid decision.

I'd do it myself, except I already don't have any accounts with them.

He will not care as he's on a wait out (by mid 2014), replaced by a guy who is heading their US arm.


BTW, Gordon thinks we all got it wrong, incl. the media ... LOL





To all employees in Canada

RBC clarifies recent media reports



Dear Colleagues,

Over the last 24 hours there has been Canadian media coverage alleging that RBC has hired temporary foreign workers to replace RBC employees. I would like to provide you with some context about this story and assure you that RBC has not hired temporary foreign workers to take over the job functions of these employees.

In this case, we have a contract with a vendor to support specific technology requirements, which impacts approximately 45 employees. In keeping with standard business practices, when transitioning activities, our vendor has temporarily assigned a number of their employees onsite at RBC to affect this transition with a small number remaining on a go forward basis. We have already identified positions for a number of affected staff and we will continue to work diligently to find suitable roles for the remaining staff.



To provide broader context for our vendor strategy, like most businesses, we partner with external vendors to improve and extend our product and services offering to meet our client needs, and improve our operational effectiveness.



With over 57,000 employees in Canada, RBC continues to create jobs in many businesses and functions and we have a strong track record of retraining and redeploying our staff affected by these types of changes.

Our goal remains to provide outstanding advice and service to our clients, and we continue to rely on your skills and commitment to always earn the right to be our clients’ first choice.

Gord Nixon

President & Chief Executive Officer

 

[mxs]

with this whole situation, as it was mentionned earlier, RBC is getting all the coverage but its already in place in other banks and other big corporations and with the clothes you wear, the cellphones you use and the cars you drive, etc.
No its not right, but it wont stop them from doing it.

This one stinks in a bit more profound way ..... they brought the people here under local people's noses and had to get a visa permit from the government. This compared to building a factory in China to pay Chinese labour rates is very different.

 

[Red_Liner740]

In other words...instead of hiring new employees to work in our IT department, we farmed it out to the lowest bidder, and THEY, not us, THEY, brought in the foreign labor....seeeee?!?! our hands are clean!

A difference without distinction. In the end, Canadian jobs are lost and were replaced by foreigners...

Hate to tell this mofo but back in the day, a mafioso didnt have to pull the trigger to be arrested for murder. This is no different.

He will not care as he's on a wait out (by mid 2014), replaced by a guy who is heading their US arm.


BTW, Gordon thinks we all got it wrong, incl. the media ... LOL





To all employees in Canada

RBC clarifies recent media reports



Dear Colleagues,

Over the last 24 hours there has been Canadian media coverage alleging that RBC has hired temporary foreign workers to replace RBC employees. I would like to provide you with some context about this story and assure you that RBC has not hired temporary foreign workers to take over the job functions of these employees.

In this case, we have a contract with a vendor to support specific technology requirements, which impacts approximately 45 employees. In keeping with standard business practices, when transitioning activities, our vendor has temporarily assigned a number of their employees onsite at RBC to affect this transition with a small number remaining on a go forward basis. We have already identified positions for a number of affected staff and we will continue to work diligently to find suitable roles for the remaining staff.



To provide broader context for our vendor strategy, like most businesses, we partner with external vendors to improve and extend our product and services offering to meet our client needs, and improve our operational effectiveness.



With over 57,000 employees in Canada, RBC continues to create jobs in many businesses and functions and we have a strong track record of retraining and redeploying our staff affected by these types of changes.

Our goal remains to provide outstanding advice and service to our clients, and we continue to rely on your skills and commitment to always earn the right to be our clients’ first choice.

Gord Nixon

President & Chief Executive Officer

 

[nfq]

In other words...instead of hiring new employees to work in our IT department, we farmed it out to the lowest bidder, and THEY, not us, THEY, brought in the foreign labor....seeeee?!?! our hands are clean!

A difference without distinction. In the end, Canadian jobs are lost and were replaced by foreigners...

Hate to tell this mofo but back in the day, a mafioso didnt have to pull the trigger to be arrested for murder. This is no different.

Guess they're catching up to the telecom and auto industry....

 

[LePhillou]

Guess they're catching up to the telecom and auto industry....

Yeah i guess we should fire those Jamaicans that come to work in the vinyards every season in Ontario. Or those latinos that come plant trees out west.

seriously, yes it stinks. you could try pulling your business out of one bank to go to another...but ya know, different ****, same pile of crap. Its like shuffling **** around in the same pile...

 

[RockerGuy]

turns out im haitian!

Wait till your position is filled out by your fellow Haitians, you'll be crying foul. I'm sure they could get someone to do the same job for a lot less

Yeah i guess we should fire those Jamaicans that come to work in the vinyards every season in Ontario. Or those latinos that come plant trees out west.

seriously, yes it stinks. you could try pulling your business out of one bank to go to another...but ya know, different ****, same pile of crap. Its like shuffling **** around in the same pile...

All I can say is if you're laid off, you'll be singing a different tune

 

[nfq]

only way to stay employed is to constantly be updating and adapting your skill set. Gone are the days of the thirty year, same company, same industry career with the gold watch and nice party when you retire with a company pension.

 

[LePhillou]

Wait till your position is filled out by your fellow Haitians, you'll be crying foul. I'm sure they could get someone to do the same job for a lot less





All I can say is if you're laid off, you'll be singing a different tune

Well i would still sing the same tune as it would be the same situation with other financial institutions / corporations. I used to worked for a subsidiary company of bell, doing directory assistance, relay service for hearing/speech impaired, they also did Bell ExpressVu customer service and Teleconference support.
All different ways to lower the costs with benefits that arent as good as bell employees, lower salaries, etc etc...

Meh i dont intend on staying in this position all my life. I know im just a pawn in the big picture

I try to climb up the ladder. Its my 4th position at the bank in 5 years being here. When i get tired of it, there are other avenues to look at. If im where im at, its because im simply lazy and not really looking elsewhere as im comfortable.

 

[BuckWild]

HAHAHA so in a way he just admitted to STARTING with these 40 something people.

How fukcing pathetic is this crap?
People died for this country and for Gordon to grow up in a safe country.
This is a big FU to Canadian's and their children. PERIOD.

 

[Dresden]

Some of you really need a reality check. Migrant workers working right here in Ontario IS NOT RECENT NEWS.

A lot of the lower class jobs in niagara are being occupied by migrant workers! Where is your uproar now????


Forget the fact that this article talks about the inhumane treatment of the workers:

In one segment, the students interviewed Esteban Smith, a Mexican worker who lost his right arm in a farm accident, was banned from the farm three days after his injuries and ordered to return home.“Born and raised in Niagara, I see these migrant workers everywhere, on their bikes, in stores. But a lot of us know nothing about these issues,” said Jazmine Mitchell, who founded the SAME chapter at Brock University two years ago.

“This is an important global issue,” added Mitchell, a labour studies and political science major. “It affects the Canadian workforce and has a ripple effect . . . At the end of the day everyone will be paid less, with no benefits.”

http://www.thestar.com/news/immigra...ntary_to_be_screened_on_ontario_campuses.html

 

[BuckWild]

NOT the same.
One job has skill set where we the tax payers provided soldiers for protection etc...
We the tax payers provided an educational system to pay it forward.
We the tax payer entered into a mutual agreement to grow the country towards the better for all.
We have a race to the top not bottom.
So if said ppl and us paid for their education here and they get a job here and they pay back their taxes here then the growth of the country continues upwards on onwards.

If Canadians do not want to do those jobs or have moved on to upwards mobility then we agree to that deal of offering them a job in our country to provide a service. As for the unethical treatment of those people then that does need to be dealt with. The people treating them bad are who...the RBC Executive type or the Employees of the bank type?

Some of you really need a reality check. Migrant workers working right here in Ontario IS NOT RECENT NEWS.

A lot of the lower class jobs in niagara are being occupied by migrant workers! Where is your uproar now????


Forget the fact that this article talks about the inhumane treatment of the workers:

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http://www.thestar.com/news/immigra...ntary_to_be_screened_on_ontario_campuses.html

 

[Red_Liner740]

Are people seriously comparing bringing in migrant workers to do seasonal work that Canadians wont do to jobs being lost which require a high technical, education intensive person to fill it? Before you go screaming about "ooh Canadians dont want those jobs...bla bla bla..." These are seasonal jobs that last 2 to 6 months...Who here wants to work for 6 months and then not have a job for the rest of the time...Well, they could be like out East where they fish for 6 months and are on the dole for the other 6.

 

[daught]

Well i would still sing the same tune as it would be the same situation with other financial institutions / corporations. I used to worked for a subsidiary company of bell, doing directory assistance, relay service for hearing/speech impaired, they also did Bell ExpressVu customer service and Teleconference support.
All different ways to lower the costs with benefits that arent as good as bell employees, lower salaries, etc etc...

Meh i dont intend on staying in this position all my life. I know im just a pawn in the big picture

I try to climb up the ladder. Its my 4th position at the bank in 5 years being here. When i get tired of it, there are other avenues to look at. If im where im at, its because im simply lazy and not really looking elsewhere as im comfortable.

Do you really think you can climb that ladder for ever? The ladder is getting thinner and taller. Right now new graduates can't even reach the bottom. Good luck when RBC is made up of 100 executives in Canada and the rest are offshore or temporary workers. If you are oblivious now, it's only gonna get a lot more crowded on that ladder.

 

[RetroGrouch]

That's why I dislike Kevin O'Leary so much. His pissing all over the pool self satisfied show me the moneyyyyyy represents most of what is wrong with "financial services" and corporations in general.

O'Leary was on his show today saying he loved how the RBC is doing this. He is a shareholder and supports anything RBC does within the law to increase his dividends. He actually said he wanted more offshore workers hired in place of Canadians. What a scumbag. Makes me despise people who make money from manipulating money and not from producing anything worthwhile.

 

[nakkers]

Meh, I've been downsized/right sized/reorged a few times. Love how everyone gets their panties in a bunch over 45 jobs. RBC doesn't do a press release with every job they create. With every branch they open, with every business sector they explore. It makes for great discussion at the watercooler and the optics look like crap when you bring in the "replacement" help to be trained by those about to lose their jobs.

We love to whine about big business making loads of money but no one is willing to take the risk to run their own business and take on the responsibility of keeping things "Canadian".


We want good paying jobs and security but, we don't want to pay the full freight. A previous post mentioned dealing with a credit union but switching back because it wasn't convenient. Those big financial institutions offer better hours of operation. more locations/bank machines, and presuming decent fees and rates to deal with.

If we all dealt with the locally owned and run businesses, this country wouldn't amount to what we have today. We produce far more than we consume as a country.

If we insist upon everything being run and serviced by Canadians only, is everyone prepared to pay the premium?

No? Ok, but its alright as long as it "looks good" and doesn't show up in the news.

We can mandate it and the businesses will simply pass the expense on to us, the consumer.

We want it all and we want to feel good about it too. Sorry to burst the bubble. Stuff happens, people get hurt, people lose their jobs. Don't like it? Start your own business and give it a try yourself.

No one is stopping you.

Or move to a communist country. You know, everyone is treated the same, fair way.


BTW before I get flamed. I'm not a customer or employee of RBC. I don't neccessarily agree with they way they do business. I just think it's laughable as how the sheep whine at something like this when so much worse happens ALL THE TIME. It's just part of the game. It's easy to point fingers at the wrong doings of others. Quite another to do something about it.

Carry on.

 

[BuckWild]

O'Leary was on his show today saying he loved how the RBC is doing this. He is a shareholder and supports anything RBC does within the law to increase his dividends. He actually said he wanted more offshore workers hired in place of Canadians. What a scumbag. Makes me despise people who make money from manipulating money and not from producing anything worthwhile.

Exactly!
What to talk about who is ENTITLED now?

These fukcing ppl forget where they came from and the sacrifices others made for them.
Drop Oleary in some warzone or in the home of the people that died for this country.
Oleary will suffer from a stroke and just watch life go by as he drools.

This is a great country and one of the things that made this country great was the fact people were NOT greedy and pulled for the greater good. This country has a social contract, work hard, keep the place clean, pay our taxes and we all enjoy a higher quality of life.
We did NOT want to be like Americans.
We sure as hell are on this path and moving fast.

Someone will snap and go postal on these ppl.
You can NOT keep crapping on ppl and not expect some kind of repercussion.

 

[Rob MacLennan]

O'Leary was on his show today saying he loved how the RBC is doing this. He is a shareholder and supports anything RBC does within the law to increase his dividends. He actually said he wanted more offshore workers hired in place of Canadians. What a scumbag. Makes me despise people who make money from manipulating money and not from producing anything worthwhile.

Ever really listen to that guy? He thinks that he's a 1900s robber baron.

 

[Dresden]

Are people seriously comparing bringing in migrant workers to do seasonal work that Canadians wont do to jobs being lost which require a high technical, education intensive person to fill it? Before you go screaming about "ooh Canadians dont want those jobs...bla bla bla..." These are seasonal jobs that last 2 to 6 months...Who here wants to work for 6 months and then not have a job for the rest of the time...Well, they could be like out East where they fish for 6 months and are on the dole for the other 6.

You make me laugh.

1/2 the people in this thread are so bent out of shape because its a "good" "white-collar" job that is being "stolen" from Canada.
If this was about bottom of the barrel jobs, hardly anyone would give two f's. Of course the RBC headline sells a lot more news papers than "500 migrant workers from mexico are plowing the fields in Niagara this summer".

"Who here wants to work for 6 months and then not have a job for the rest of the time..."

you just proved my point. Try that attitude in a third world country (say India? )... you would starve to death.

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