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Re: the titanic submersible issue
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sburns
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Nope, but I am a bit interested in it.
Apparently all kinds of sketchy stuff has been release over the past couple of days about the sub and it's company/CEO. Maybe doomed from the start.
arstechnica.com
There might be a chance they can be found alive, if the predictions about the amount of air is correct, and whatever happened wasn't catastrophic.
Anything around the Titanic generally peaks my attention, 80's kid, was always a fascinating story, even more so when they found it.
Apparently all kinds of sketchy stuff has been release over the past couple of days about the sub and it's company/CEO. Maybe doomed from the start.
Submarine missing near Titanic used a $30 Logitech gamepad for steering
While rescuers fear for OceanGate crew, Logitech F710 PC gamepad sells out within minutes.
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There might be a chance they can be found alive, if the predictions about the amount of air is correct, and whatever happened wasn't catastrophic.
Anything around the Titanic generally peaks my attention, 80's kid, was always a fascinating story, even more so when they found it.
That submersible likely imploded, very rare chance of anything being found.
Imagine having 6000 psi pushing on you
The water pressure 3,800 meters down at the site of the Titanic wreck is roughly 400 atmospheres (6000 PSI) — about the same as having 35 elephants on your shoulders
Imagine having 6000 psi pushing on you
The water pressure 3,800 meters down at the site of the Titanic wreck is roughly 400 atmospheres (6000 PSI) — about the same as having 35 elephants on your shoulders
It sounds like David Lochridge would have a lot of interesting things to say about the seaworthiness of the OceanGate Titan, if he weren't bound by a settlement.
techcrunch.com
A whistleblower raised safety concerns about OceanGate’s submersible in 2018. Then he was fired.
The director of marine operations at OceanGate was fired after raising concerns about its first-of-a-kind carbon fiber hull.
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Yes it’s sad that 5 people (probably) died going on an adventure.
From what I’ve seen that sub should have never been allowed under the surface of the water. Have seen a few videos and I just shake my head how the eff did someone convince (IMO) smart and wealthy people to sign up for this.
I heard on 680 it’s potentially stuck INSIDE the Titanic?
Obviously info is light on details and facts as not many will be able to go down there to check.
I hope that they find them…but very unlikely.
From what I’ve seen that sub should have never been allowed under the surface of the water. Have seen a few videos and I just shake my head how the eff did someone convince (IMO) smart and wealthy people to sign up for this.
I heard on 680 it’s potentially stuck INSIDE the Titanic?
Obviously info is light on details and facts as not many will be able to go down there to check.
I hope that they find them…but very unlikely.
100’s of immigrants died on a boat near Greece the other day. Bit of a Ho-hum story in the news. Couple of billionaires find out they can’t buy their way out of a disaster on one of the worlds most expensive theme park rides and it’s non-stop news.
Yes it’s ****** all around but I don’t know if we have our priorities straight.
Also, stop calling mega rich people explorers and adventurers when there’s a bunch of people who’d do exactly the same thing if it didn’t cost millions and require a ******* army to support them.
Yes it’s ****** all around but I don’t know if we have our priorities straight.
Also, stop calling mega rich people explorers and adventurers when there’s a bunch of people who’d do exactly the same thing if it didn’t cost millions and require a ******* army to support them.
Tourist submersible visting the Titanic is missing - Engineering Failures & Disasters - Eng-Tips
This is a developing story: [b]Titanic tourist submersible goes missing with search under way[/b] https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65953872 [b]John R. B
Billionaires doing billionaire things ... like ignoring subject matter experts.
cant all get the Darwin award, couple fathers on the sub, to technically to qualify you have to end your input to the gene pool.
@klr-guy , your maybe a dick , but I dont think so . We all get to pick what bothers us. The nutters running schools in Niagara have me shaking my head this morning, and its Indiginous something day today.
I love the ocean , I am a diver , I'm facinated with everything going on out there . This sub however seems to be a homemade gadget and the CEO a bit of a a wild card in the exploration industry. Anytime I hear about a guy that thinks the industry safety regulations are hindering developement in a business a bunch of red flags go up for me .
I hate clickbait crap like this.Nope, but I am a bit interested in it.
Apparently all kinds of sketchy stuff has been release over the past couple of days about the sub and it's company/CEO. Maybe doomed from the start.
Submarine missing near Titanic used a $30 Logitech gamepad for steering
While rescuers fear for OceanGate crew, Logitech F710 PC gamepad sells out within minutes.
There might be a chance they can be found alive, if the predictions about the amount of air is correct, and whatever happened wasn't catastrophic.
Anything around the Titanic generally peaks my attention, 80's kid, was always a fascinating story, even more so when they found it.
Oooh, they used an off the shelf highly reliable and easily swappable product. This is good design theory. Use things that are already proven as opposed to cobbling your own proprietary system. The Navy does it because it cuts down on training time, works well and is fast to change out in the event of a malfunction.
It looks like there are lots of other issues to pick on. The bonding of the hull is sketchy as hell.
I hope everyone gets out ok, but missing bored millionaires are very low on my list of priorities right now.
I can't wait to see the tax payer bill after search and rescue as well.
Mad Mike
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I can't imagine what it's like to be in that sub if they are still alive.
Having 96 hours to waiting/contemplating your death, trapped with 5 people in a tight space that will be your coffin. Maybe in total darkness, maybe at 0C.
What thoughts go through your mind?
Do I kill them all to extend the oxygen supply for me?
....If I do that, with decomposing gases kill me faster?
Do you kill yourself to end the excruciating mental pressure?
Do the minutes go by fast or slow?
One thing is for sure... I'm never going to be there.
Having 96 hours to waiting/contemplating your death, trapped with 5 people in a tight space that will be your coffin. Maybe in total darkness, maybe at 0C.
What thoughts go through your mind?
Do I kill them all to extend the oxygen supply for me?
....If I do that, with decomposing gases kill me faster?
Do you kill yourself to end the excruciating mental pressure?
Do the minutes go by fast or slow?
One thing is for sure... I'm never going to be there.
Last night my wife and I were talking about it and she said the exact same thing. Not sure if I should be worried.
Well, one of the fathers brought his son on board so he and his son may both qualify (not sure if he has other kids).
Agree with the rest.
From what I have seen redundancy was very low and afaik there were no physical gages. I would not trust a Chinese knockoff ps3 controller with my life. Having every data point entirely reliant on angry pixies is not a good design. As a minimum, I want real pressure gauges on oxygen and outside pressure .
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The navy went with a real xbox controller. I would have picked that or a real ps controller long before a dodgy chinese controller. There would be one handheld and one in a cage you could reach through so it was protected from damage/cable issues, etc. Parts interchangeability is good. Your sole means of control crapping the bed and requiring repair with only the people and parts in your coffin is not good.
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Good questions…kill the others to get more oxygen but then methane from the bodies kills your faster, as well as the exertion of the actual deed.
Doubtful there are weapons on board or anything to use, outside of a joystick.
Horrifying to meet your end like that. Only solace is for those with their kids, at least they’re not alone with strangers in their dying minutes.
Guy at our old cottage spent 10yrs building a towable submersible out of a big propane tank . Idea was you tow it behind a boat and using fins like an airplane wing you could go down or up. He saw plans in Popular Mechanics in 1961 . It was about as sophisticated as this one they are now looking for .
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So did he finish it? Did you go for a ride? I used to do more freediving stuff but haven't in a long time. On the hunt for a lost anchor, we made up a diving plane out of a board so I could get towed around near the bottom to cover area faster. Found the anchor far away from where they said they lost it.
So at this point we have....
Canadian P-3 Orion
Three C-17 transport planes
Commercial submersible
Two Canadian surface ships, one deploying sonar buoys.
In addition to an international array of ships and planes, an underwater robot had started searching in the vicinity of the Titanic and there was a push to get salvage equipment to the scene in case the sub is found.
This also does not take into account the support personnel required to field all of this.
What is the bill for this? Think of the issues that could have been solved with the millions that are being spent.
Canadian P-3 Orion
Three C-17 transport planes
Commercial submersible
Two Canadian surface ships, one deploying sonar buoys.
In addition to an international array of ships and planes, an underwater robot had started searching in the vicinity of the Titanic and there was a push to get salvage equipment to the scene in case the sub is found.
This also does not take into account the support personnel required to field all of this.
What is the bill for this? Think of the issues that could have been solved with the millions that are being spent.
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