The title of the news article should be "RCMP officer goes on murder rampage".
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RCMP Officer, drunk, kills motorcyclist, 21
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KawiSports
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lol kill 2 people, stay home and get paid why the **** aren't I a RCMP officer
There is absolutely a double standard that will come into play here. If i was in his boots i would also call in every marker I could to. The system that protects us will be manipulated by every means possible with the help of those that know it best. Sad>
My sincere wishes to the family of that young man.
My sincere wishes to the family of that young man.
My Heart goes out to the family !
about the officer, he is just a person, no different than YOU or me. And should be treated as such, do you think if you were in his shoes was drunk and left the scene you would be at home feeling bad about 'killing' a young person that hasn't enjoyed life to full extent. NO, you would have been in jail waiting as the list of charges would have been long.
And MADD or the newspapers like the justice system would be making sure you were known who you were and what extent the so called long arm of the law is willing to go to protect it's citzens....
Another good point made above, because of what he does, his judgement should be that much sharper than what is expected of a civilian (or one would think).
i'm sure with what they see on a daily basis one could use a night to let loose, shiat maybe even a whole week. BUT, that same page, seeing what they see taking that risk with your kids and knowing what could be (and was in this case) the outcome.. special treatment should not be the option.
You know... when it comes to dui, the system takes every case as an example out of you. trust me!
freedomfighter
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cause they are trying to figure out a way to cover it up..have you all not been listsening to me over the years?
Metastable
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Poor families.
1st - Their loved ones are killed by a police officer
2nd - The police and the entire system stonewalls them
It's like getting kicked in the face by the system that is suppose to protect them. Like giving the finger to the poor sod in the coffin.
PATHETIC!!!!
1st - Their loved ones are killed by a police officer
2nd - The police and the entire system stonewalls them
It's like getting kicked in the face by the system that is suppose to protect them. Like giving the finger to the poor sod in the coffin.
PATHETIC!!!!
I'm not defending this guy, what he did was wrong and he should be punished. But what this guys is doing is using any means to "play the system" to help get him off. When all you cop haters get a ticket for 50 over...you know damn well you're guilty..but you WILL play the system and use every resource you can to get off the charge. Don't persecute this guy because he is simply doing the exact same thing!! As for getting paid...what would you do? Would you tell your company "Ummm...no...I'm guilty...I'm a bad man..I don't deserve to get paid"....Bull ****...you'd take the money and run to a lawyer!!
Remember you calling this guy a scumbag the next time you're in court fighting a speeding ticket you know damn well you were guilty of. Hypocrites.
BTW....I'm a dispatcher....I could bus to work...sit at my desk...do my job...that's one job!
I'll agree...there are many jobs that require criminal background checks...but until you are convicted....you do not have a criminal record.
Language....can this not be discussed without the swearing? It'll be in trash by lunch today!
Question...would you guys lose your job for drunk driving and killing someone? Didn't think so..
I'm not sure if I would lose my job directly, but IMO a DWI is a criminal charge and if I was convicted I would be required to report the conviction to the College of Radiation Medical Technologists when I submit my annual renewal fees. I would most likely be interviewed by my College and if they suspended my licence, I would then be ineligible to work at my profession. So yes I could lose my job.
I'm not defending this guy, what he did was wrong and he should be punished. But what this guys is doing is using any means to "play the system" to help get him off. When all you cop haters get a ticket for 50 over...you know damn well you're guilty..but you WILL play the system and use every resource you can to get off the charge. Don't persecute this guy because he is simply doing the exact same thing!! As for getting paid...what would you do? Would you tell your company "Ummm...no...I'm guilty...I'm a bad man..I don't deserve to get paid"....Bull ****...you'd take the money and run to a lawyer!!
Remember you calling this guy a scumbag the next time you're in court fighting a speeding ticket you know damn well you were guilty of. Hypocrites.
BTW....I'm a dispatcher....I could bus to work...sit at my desk...do my job...that's one job!
You are comparing apples to oranges Paul. There is a big difference between a DWI and a speeding or street racing charge. In this event there was a death caused by the DWI.
I think the reason so many members of this forum are ticked off with this incident is because of the constant onslaught of so called safety initiatives by the Police. During the summer months there are weekly stories of "safety" blitzes, seat belt blitzes, RIDE patrols and zero tolerance for aggressive driving. There have been news stories where Police chiefs and politicians have posed with the pictures of crushed cars that were impounded under the Civil remedies act.
http://www.citynews.ca/news/news_1233.aspx
Under the Civil Remedies Act, you don't have to be convicted, just arrested for an illegal activity. The drivers of the cars in question were cited for speeding and dangerous driving, and now their valuable vehicles are scrap metal.
Under the current Provincial Liberal government drivers of two and four wheeled vehicles have been hit with an onslaught of new and strict laws and heavy fines. No smoking with children in the car, the street racing legislation, no passengers under 14 on the back of a bike, and the latest electronic distraction legislation.
On top of all this is the fact that the laws are applied differently to the police compared to the average joe (or jane.) Just like the 2 OPP officers that avoided instant penalties after being charged under street-racing law.
OK I feel better now
I'm not defending this guy, what he did was wrong and he should be punished. But what this guys is doing is using any means to "play the system" to help get him off. When all you cop haters get a ticket for 50 over...you know damn well you're guilty..but you WILL play the system and use every resource you can to get off the charge. Don't persecute this guy because he is simply doing the exact same thing!! As for getting paid...what would you do? Would you tell your company "Ummm...no...I'm guilty...I'm a bad man..I don't deserve to get paid"....Bull ****...you'd take the money and run to a lawyer!!
Remember you calling this guy a scumbag the next time you're in court fighting a speeding ticket you know damn well you were guilty of. Hypocrites.
BTW....I'm a dispatcher....I could bus to work...sit at my desk...do my job...that's one job!
Paul - You have a tremendous amount of common sense. Well said.. Too bad more people aren't like you..
I'm such a suck up...
You are comparing apples to oranges Paul. There is a big difference between a DWI and a speeding or street racing charge. In this event there was a death caused by the DWI.
I think the reason so many members of this forum are ticked off with this incident is because of the constant onslaught of so called safety initiatives by the Police. During the summer months there are weekly stories of "safety" blitzes, seat belt blitzes, RIDE patrols and zero tolerance for aggressive driving. There have been news stories where Police chiefs and politicians have posed with the pictures of crushed cars that were impounded under the Civil remedies act.
http://www.citynews.ca/news/news_1233.aspx
Under the Civil Remedies Act, you don't have to be convicted, just arrested for an illegal activity. The drivers of the cars in question were cited for speeding and dangerous driving, and now their valuable vehicles are scrap metal.
Under the current Provincial Liberal government drivers of two and four wheeled vehicles have been hit with an onslaught of new and strict laws and heavy fines. No smoking with children in the car, the street racing legislation, no passengers under 14 on the back of a bike, and the latest electronic distraction legislation.
On top of all this is the fact that the laws are applied differently to the police compared to the average joe (or jane.) Just like the 2 OPP officers that avoided instant penalties after being charged under street-racing law.
OK I feel better now
There are bad apples in every place of employment. This guy messed up big time. No doubt about that. I'm not arguing that he should get off. My argument is simple....he is doing what he can to get off a charge. You say it's wrong for him to do that. Yet if you were in the exact same boat...you'd do exactly what he is doing. That is all I'm trying to get across.
Just because cops can get off using their resources doesn't mean I think it's right. My posts are aimed more to the others here who continually post about how cops can get away with things when it's clear they are guilty. It's no different than you or I getting away with a Bill 203 charge knowing full well we're guilty!! It's called using the system....and that is simply what this cop is doing.
Let's say it was YOU that had a couple of drinks and killed someone. Again, I find it hard to believe you'd walk in to court...admit your guilty and take your punishment. I'd bet you'd do what you could to get out of it. You'd get a lawyer....who will play the system for you.
Sure..this cop should be put away for what he did...but don't ridicule him for using whatever contacts he has to get off the charge...cause you'd all do the same thing.
That's all I'm trying to say!
There are bad apples in every place of employment. This guy messed up big time. No doubt about that. I'm not arguing that he should get off. My argument is simple....he is doing what he can to get off a charge. You say it's wrong for him to do that. Yet if you were in the exact same boat...you'd do exactly what he is doing. That is all I'm trying to get across.
Just because cops can get off using their resources doesn't mean I think it's right. My posts are aimed more to the others here who continually post about how cops can get away with things when it's clear they are guilty. It's no different than you or I getting away with a Bill 203 charge knowing full well we're guilty!! It's called using the system....and that is simply what this cop is doing.
Let's say it was YOU that had a couple of drinks and killed someone. Again, I find it hard to believe you'd walk in to court...admit your guilty and take your punishment. I'd bet you'd do what you could to get out of it. You'd get a lawyer....who will play the system for you.
Sure..this cop should be put away for what he did...but don't ridicule him for using whatever contacts he has to get off the charge...cause you'd all do the same thing.
That's all I'm trying to say!
So what you're saying is that it's acceptable for police officers to cover up offences, delay charges, etc., because if you were a criminal, you would do the same thing?
You're right, if I drove drunk and killed someone I would try to get off the charge. If I robbed someone's house and got caught, I would try to get off the charge. If I went on a shooting spree and murdered a bunch of innocent people, I would try to get off the charge. And in all of these cases, I would be a scumbag.
Trying to get off a speeding ticket? Compared to violating the public trust and, as a police officer, killing a 21 year old boy while driving drunk with my kids in the car? Is that a serious comparison?
Our police system is flawed. There are relatively few bad apples, that is true. I am far from being a cop hater. But they deal with the few bad apples about as well as the Catholic Church deals with theirs. And saying that anyone would use everything in their power to get off the charges doesn't make it right.
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I agree....it isn't right....and it doesn't matter what the charge is...it isn't right! Don't pretend it's okay because it's "just speeding"
who wouldn't try to get off. it's your *** on the line if you go to jail or not. it's your money in insurance points and paying the fine.
we as humans are flawed. we have to make wrong decision it's in our nature. If we were put in a utopian society we would no doubt turn it into dystopia by the next morning.
But! if you compare with how many police/politicians/big corporate types that get off by using their power, rank, connections or the all mighty dollar and then compare it with how many average joes that have gotten convicted. Even just comparing cops to regular public convictions you'll see a huge difference. Why? Cops/law enforcement have to stick together, it's some stupid unwritten code. Now, the police having that kind of leeway compared to the average joe isn't exactly fair.
Edit: He should be given pay after being suspended. Why? He's innocent until proven guilty and should be treated as such. There might have been extenuating circumstances that we don't know about that might have caused this. Until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt he is innocent. Just remember the case about the guy who sleep walked and killed his parents in law while sleep walking. He did the crime, but was proven innocent. Why? He had no mens reya, he did not have the guilty mind (sorry bad explanation... 3hrs of sleep -_-). yeah, it's a totally different case, but the point is that you never know all the facts until being presented with them after a full investigation.
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EMiranda
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I'm not defending this guy, what he did was wrong and he should be punished. But what this guys is doing is using any means to "play the system" to help get him off. When all you cop haters get a ticket for 50 over...you know damn well you're guilty..but you WILL play the system and use every resource you can to get off the charge. Don't persecute this guy because he is simply doing the exact same thing!! As for getting paid...what would you do? Would you tell your company "Ummm...no...I'm guilty...I'm a bad man..I don't deserve to get paid"....Bull ****...you'd take the money and run to a lawyer!!
Remember you calling this guy a scumbag the next time you're in court fighting a speeding ticket you know damn well you were guilty of. Hypocrites.
BTW....I'm a dispatcher....I could bus to work...sit at my desk...do my job...that's one job!
Innocent until proven guilty i guess, right?
Your damn right I would. If I killed someone from my own negligence damn right I wouldn't shirk my responsibility to own up to my crime. I also wouldn't leave the scene of an accident either. The biggest difference is my name would be splashed all over the papers and in ever news story. Why aren't the police releasing this guys name? do police criminals deserve more protection than the average person? hell no.
I think Orion's parents should lobby Dalton McGuinty for a law that imposes zero-tolerance on drinking and driving for police officers, much the same way the proposed law does for "children" under 21.
Or maybe they don't have as much money as the SuperSalesman Tim Mulcahy, so they'll just have to deal with their grief privately.
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Or maybe they don't have as much money as the SuperSalesman Tim Mulcahy, so they'll just have to deal with their grief privately.
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