push present?

I've got 4 nieces a nephew and my exs daughter who's basically my own and all grown up. That's all been enough. Not everyone wants kids. Why is that such a hard concept for some?
 
I like kids, sometimes not other peoples, often because the other peoples are asholes and the kids get to be mini asholes. It took a bit of effort but the whole travel, cottage, cars , boats , dispossible income was there for us, with kids, we missed out on nothing we wanted.. I'm very pleased when people announce they arent having them, its often those that elect not to have kids that would be just awful parents. Self absorbed and self indulgent people should not have kids, its ok. I'm glad some folks know their limitations in life, why deal with daily challenges if the subject is not of interest to you.
 
crankcall said:
I like kids, sometimes not other peoples, often because the other peoples are asholes and the kids get to be mini asholes. It took a bit of effort but the whole travel, cottage, cars , boats , dispossible income was there for us, with kids, we missed out on nothing we wanted.. I'm very pleased when people announce they arent having them, its often those that elect not to have kids that would be just awful parents. Self absorbed and self indulgent people should not have kids, its ok. I'm glad some folks know their limitations in life, why deal with daily challenges if the subject is not of interest to you.
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Yup..except daily challenges happen to many people not just parents.
 
I'd argue the baby crap is the easy part, they eat what you put in front of them, they usually stay where you put em, and they dont steal your beers and wreck your car. And they dont talk..........
 
I don't see any self absorbed people around here, nope, no siree. Fact is, not having children can just as well be a chosen sacrifice.
 
LiNK666 said:
Why not adopt a kid that's not a baby? Would skip pass all the baby crap.
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Like adopting a dog. Taking other people's garbage. No thanks
 
NinjaNikki said:
That's just it. Kids are not a death sentence, you can still have all the things you mentioned. Our society is a very funny thing. People seem to hate the two ends of life, kids and the elderly. When we are young we like to forget that if we are lucky we will live to grow old...and when you are old ain't nobody cares about you. The bonds and family you create when you are young will either make or break you when you are old and grey. I've had the unfortunate pleasure of watching people die in front of me. Shirts ripped open on the floor while we do hopeless CPR until the medics can arrive. Everyone gawks, and carries on disposable income, holidays, free time, peace and quiet mean nothing in the end...like my mama always said "I'll sleep when I'm dead."
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Not a death sentence but I've lost real touch with nearly all friends that have had kids. They can't go out spontaneously, if they do they bring their sprog which changes the dynamic and I have no interest in feigning interest in a babbling little person, all chat is about the sprog, showing pictures of the sprog etc. I have zero interest in that terminally dull subject. So, yes it changes everything as far as we can see and it's not a club we want anything to do with.
 
jc100 said:
Not a death sentence but I've lost real touch with nearly all friends that have had kids. They can't go out spontaneously, if they do they bring their sprog which changes the dynamic and I have no interest in feigning interest in a babbling little person, all chat is about the sprog, showing pictures of the sprog etc. I have zero interest in that terminally dull subject. So, yes it changes everything as far as we can see and it's not a club we want anything to do with.
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True. They take over a lot of your free time (you also realise how much free time went to waste before lol)

But for friends... if theyve got nothing else to talk about other than their baby/kid/offspring.. then maybe theyre the ones lacking in interpersonal skills.
Ive found that the real legit buddies stay and we work around the new life arrangements, the other ones that can't well, screw them :P
Ill go skiing, riding, drinking and chiling with the ones who stuck around.

I gotta say i was kinda irritated myself at people posting the same pics of their offspring at every possible angle available to them with our 2-D technology (ie. facebook or instagram) but hey, a simple "unfollow" or "block from newsfeed" was enough to buy me peace and quiet. I guess we gotta learn and accept that its part of life, otherwise well...life as humans wouldn't exist would it?!
 
jc100 said:
Not a death sentence but I've lost real touch with nearly all friends that have had kids. They can't go out spontaneously, if they do they bring their sprog which changes the dynamic and I have no interest in feigning interest in a babbling little person, all chat is about the sprog, showing pictures of the sprog etc. I have zero interest in that terminally dull subject. So, yes it changes everything as far as we can see and it's not a club we want anything to do with.
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I can't say that I have lost touch with my friends who have recently had kids, but I can say that some of them have turned into really boring people! All of their FB pics are of their kid. All they do is kid stuff. All they talk about is kid stuff. These are friends who have many thousands of dollars tied up in mountain bikes that they haven't ridden at all since early 2013.

I fully accept that having a kid changes your life, but I don't think it should mean that you stop doing all the things you once enjoyed.

LePhillou said:
True. They take over a lot of your free time (you also realise how much free time went to waste before lol)

But for friends... if theyve got nothing else to talk about other than their baby/kid/offspring.. then maybe theyre the ones lacking in interpersonal skills.
Ive found that the real legit buddies stay and we work around the new life arrangements, the other ones that can't well, screw them :P
Ill go skiing, riding, drinking and chiling with the ones who stuck around.

I gotta say i was kinda irritated myself at people posting the same pics of their offspring at every possible angle available to them with our 2-D technology (ie. facebook or instagram) but hey, a simple "unfollow" or "block from newsfeed" was enough to buy me peace and quiet. I guess we gotta learn and accept that its part of life, otherwise well...life as humans wouldn't exist would it?!
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inreb said:
And I'm other peoples garbage. Garbage goof I guess you could say.
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Have you ever adopted a dog? Most of them are neglected & has no training, plus you gotta cut all their bad habits. You will truly understand the term, hard to teach old dogs new tricks.

As for people, maybe my description is a little hard. But important things in my life, it has to be certain criteria. Can you imagine a teenage adopted son? "You're not my father, don't tell me what to do!" I'd probably beat the crap outta him

sonnythebull said:
So that's why you are how you are
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That's a low blow, man lol
 
caboose56 said:
I can't say that I have lost touch with my friends who have recently had kids, but I can say that some of them have turned into really boring people! All of their FB pics are of their kid. All they do is kid stuff. All they talk about is kid stuff. These are friends who have many thousands of dollars tied up in mountain bikes that they haven't ridden at all since early 2013.

I fully accept that having a kid changes your life, but I don't think it should mean that you stop doing all the things you once enjoyed.
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This is exactly me. Best friend goes and drops 4k on a full suspension mountain bike and gear. It's been ridden 3 times since he bought it in 2012. I mean I know family first etc but what caboose said is dead on. I can never get the guy to come out and do anything anymore. He's got one of the nicest mini trucks you'll ever see and it just sits in the garage doing nothing. Add to it he bought a house in the fall, I doubt he'll be doing much else this year too. Seems our whole group who've stuck together since high school (all now 40 or older except me) don't really do much anymore because they've all had kids. Nothing wrong with wanting a family and all but it doesn't mean you can't have a life too.
 
caboose56 said:
but I can say that some of them have turned into really boring people! All of their FB pics are of their kid. All they do is kid stuff. All they talk about is kid stuff.
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works both ways, my nausea level rises when I see all the non-kid folks post yet another selfie, or endless pics of the pet.....

real exciting! my life is already pathetic and boring......let me post another selfie for all my friends to see, cos they don't know what I already look like!



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