Provincial Election

Thought I'd made this point before, but maybe not here: the Ontario Liberals are so arrogant and so banal that they have done nothing at all to change themselves. They're still the same party they were when Wynne ran the show, most of the same people are there with the same bad messaging and questionable policies. The grift would start anew. Ontario has been loud and clear, and they've done nothing about it.

I want them to change. I want them to actually GAF about Ontario and not just their friends, family and supporters.
 
timtune said:
Notice how neither libs or cons are providing any platforms? ( Cons: We're great vote for us! Libs: Cons suck vote for us instead)
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I guess committing to something makes it hard to fulfill your secret agenda once you get elected.
 
sburns said:
I guess committing to something makes it hard to fulfill your secret agenda once you get elected.
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Really? Lying comes easy to politicians it would seem.
 
I wish Doug Ford would focus more on bigger ideas and changes for the better like the hwy. 413 project for Ontario. Focus on bike lanes, buck a beer, alcohol at local stores, Ontario place, changes to license plates "place to grow" seems like small municipal affairs.
Whats your big plan Premier Ford?
 
justride said:
I wish Doug Ford would focus more on bigger ideas and changes for the better like the hwy. 413 project for Ontario. Focus on bike lanes, buck a beer, alcohol at local stores, Ontario place, changes to license plates "place to grow" seems like small municipal affairs.
Whats your big plan Premier Ford?
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401 tunnel is a big plan. An epically stupid big plan.
 
justride said:
I wish Doug Ford would focus more on bigger ideas and changes for the better like the hwy. 413 project for Ontario. Focus on bike lanes, buck a beer, alcohol at local stores, Ontario place, changes to license plates "place to grow" seems like small municipal affairs.
Whats your big plan Premier Ford?
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With the amount of residential planned for halton regions, the 413 would be welcoming sooner then later
 
Shaman said:
Thought I'd made this point before, but maybe not here: the Ontario Liberals are so arrogant and so banal that they have done nothing at all to change themselves. They're still the same party they were when Wynne ran the show, most of the same people are there with the same bad messaging and questionable policies. The grift would start anew. Ontario has been loud and clear, and they've done nothing about it.

I want them to change. I want them to actually GAF about Ontario and not just their friends, family and supporters.
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I was very strapped for time and therefore missed the opportunity to chat with the Liberal provincial candidate.

I would have liked to ask him if a federal election was tomorrow, would he vote Liberal.

If he said yes, I would point out that he would be supporting the most incompetent and corrupt government we've ever had.

How could I support someone who supports incompetence, corruption, hypocrisy, and treason?
 
Just listened to a provincial liberal radio ad , they will take the millions Doug has wasted on bad deals and invest that money in things good for Ontario.
Sorry , are the guys Doug handed millions going to just give it all back . I truly wish I was stupid enough to write these ads and get paid .


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Here's the ETFO preferred list. If ETFO likes them, there's a pretty solid chance that I would consider them the worst candidate to vote for.

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timtune said:
Why not no devil?
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Right now, I don't see anyone that fits the description.

NDP want to spend ceaselessly and are themselves racists and misogynists. Liberals are exactly the same devil we voted into near-extinction years ago. The greens are in limbo. PPC? They let the crazies in. Ford? He's the incumbent, I hate him no more or less than the others from what I can tell.
 
I don't think it's how much got spent, it's what got spent and no benefit from it, like the gas plants that were to be built in oakville, Although they all have their scandals
 
KLR Junkie said:
For those who say that Dougie is a better choice and that he's being more responsible with our money than Wynne was, I'll just park this here. Source is Ontario Premiers and Provincial Government Spending

Vote for whoever you want as they're all terrible, but let's not let party favouritism get in the way of facts.

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I'm not entirely concerned with spending as long as it's well targeted and a reasonable return on investment. Spending $1B to win a single seat in a single election is neither of those. Libs MicroFIT at a fixed price was neither of those, etc, etc. Douggies spa is probably neither of those. I would like a breakdown that somehow incorporated value for money and I have no idea if that's even possible as it is somewhat subjective but more importantly it is easy to have huge swings in that data by pandering to the party you prefer or the one who paid you.

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401 tunnel is neither of those and douggie needs to stop talking about that stupidity. It makes him look dumber than his drugged out brother when he presents it as a real option.
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