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Pickup Trucks
- Thread starter Jampy00
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If it came from Japan, it should have a 2 cylinder, 660cc motor. The 4WD version has a SUPER charger... and 57 HP.
Other markets (Australia, Indonesia.... ) have up to a 1.6 liter
All signs point to I4. Four plugs, intake pipes and exhaust. I don't see a supercharger.
The Kei trucks from Japan have 660cc motors (I believe it is a limit for the class). For that subi, it looks new enough (built after 1989) to have come factory with a 4 cylinder engine. Modern Kei trucks can do 100 kph+ (but a really small +) but I wouldn't do a cross country road trip. Pretty sure the ricer mods are not necessary at those speeds... (are they ever) and ruin the utility of the vehicle. You can get them in any colour you want, as long as it is white...
A Kei truck is on my list, insurance (due to RHD) is still the stopper for me. Otherwise it does 99% (give or take) of what I need in a truck, and likely does for most non-contractors. We have a car for long road trips, so second vehicle.
A Kei truck is on my list, insurance (due to RHD) is still the stopper for me. Otherwise it does 99% (give or take) of what I need in a truck, and likely does for most non-contractors. We have a car for long road trips, so second vehicle.
Xhumeka
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I was parked in Port Perry last month and an elderly lady had a lapse in judgement and swiped her SUV across the left corner of my rear bumper...
Busted taillight and some minor bumper damage... grand total? $7,500!?!?!?!
Man I miss the days of simple trucks... thank goodness for no-fault insurance, but still... I could have bought THREE of my first vehicles for the repair damage to a bumper!!!!
Busted taillight and some minor bumper damage... grand total? $7,500!?!?!?!
Man I miss the days of simple trucks... thank goodness for no-fault insurance, but still... I could have bought THREE of my first vehicles for the repair damage to a bumper!!!!
insurance claimed repairs always get marked up
Mikedezo44
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Still dealing with the after affects of the covid craziness. Have settled on the exact truck/year I want and next to nothing available. 2022 f250 diesel lariat. Looking for months now. I think hundreds of them got shipped down to the states when it was easy to make 10 grand on one. Only XL models available, the odd Platinum. Not much in between. None coming up on kijiji/autotrader. One posted in Windsor last week must've sold in a day or two as it got taken down quick.
Hoping more will come available near end of summer as some leases might be up soon.
I guess the longer it takes to find one the more (little bit) the price will come down. Fords seem to have much higher resale value than comparable chev/gm.
Hoping more will come available near end of summer as some leases might be up soon.
I guess the longer it takes to find one the more (little bit) the price will come down. Fords seem to have much higher resale value than comparable chev/gm.
check fb marketplace
I’m still keeping an eye out for Mavericks but demand is still high. Spoke with a few dealers and every single one of them has some w it’s way to screw a customer over.
the latest one I spoke to….charging for options that are included in packages…
the latest one I spoke to….charging for options that are included in packages…
Mikedezo44
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I do daily. Nothing. couple of 2020's and 2021's but very very few of those as well. Need 2022 though with nicer touchscreen/dash.
There we go. Found the comparison…all of the circled options are part of packages already on the car.
Mad Mike
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Good till your phasers go on stun, or a turbo evacuates your sump. 2 workmates with under 140k blowed up their F150 v6 eco boosts — enough to scare me away.I sold my 2017 Ram Sport when the gas prices first shot up to 1.70/liter. I expected they'd keep going up, and my commute was already at $95/week at 1.65/liter. I went and bought a crappy little Mazda3 for the fuel economy.
Now I find out about the F150 v6 with eco-boost getting from 8 to 11 liters/100kms. I'm interested!
There's been 3 Generations of the 3.5. Phaser issues have been fixed and turbo issues are rare (extended oil change intervals will still take them out prematurely like any turbo motor). I'm not defending the motor because that's what I bought, I just did my research before buying. Awesome performance with good fuel economy, all on 87 octane (I finished up my first tank of fuel getting 10.9L/100km still breaking in motor and not being easy on gas-pedal, and got over 1100km on a tank of fuel).
GM hasn't solved their lifter issues, their 5.3 feels anemic, and their 6.2 needs premium fuel. Dodge's Hurricane motor looks promising but hasn't been out long enough and the H.O. version of it also requires premium fuel). Plus it's in a Dodge and even the GM dealer said if I don't buy a GM to buy the Ford as they offer $10k less on trade-in Dodges compared to others.
My new Dayton UMM6 calibrated microphone arrived and today I spent 2hrs tuning the truck using Room EQ Wizard. Subs are dialed in nicely and I'm close to the Harmon house curve. Just needs some personal tweaking but I'm about 80% there.
Orange line is my corrected curve.
For those of you with some older F150 trucks...
abcnews.go.com
It's a US recall...but I'd expect something similar in Canada to follow suit.
Ford recalls over 550,000 pickup trucks because transmissions can suddenly downshift to 1st gear
Ford is recalling more than 550,000 pickup trucks in the U.S. because the transmissions can unexpectedly downshift to first gear no matter how fast the trucks are going
abcnews.go.com
It's a US recall...but I'd expect something similar in Canada to follow suit.
Mikedezo44
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Saw my first North American Ford Ranger Raptor on the highway today (Michigan plates so had to be a test vehicle)
Just saw a 2024 Ford f150 Raptor R on marketplace for 164 grand. ***Lease or finance only. Yikes.
Laughed as I drove by a countertop guy today pulled over in Oakville with 3 or 4 big slabs on the back of a chevy 2500 truck that looked way overloaded with no yellow sticker on the windshield. Had to of been clueless or ignorant over the CVOR requirements. Was still there when I drove by an hour later, waiting for his $1000 or more in fine tickets. MTO could hire at least another 10 employees in the toronto/oakville/burlington area and they'd be busy pulling these people over all day long, every day.
It's like 3/4 people don't know the rules and regulations. Thinking registering their truck for 4499kg is "good enough", others thinking only the truck safety needs to be done yearly and not the trailer, thinking the yellow sticker from when they bought the truck 2 years ago is ok, etc etc.
Just saw a 2024 Ford f150 Raptor R on marketplace for 164 grand. ***Lease or finance only. Yikes.
Laughed as I drove by a countertop guy today pulled over in Oakville with 3 or 4 big slabs on the back of a chevy 2500 truck that looked way overloaded with no yellow sticker on the windshield. Had to of been clueless or ignorant over the CVOR requirements. Was still there when I drove by an hour later, waiting for his $1000 or more in fine tickets. MTO could hire at least another 10 employees in the toronto/oakville/burlington area and they'd be busy pulling these people over all day long, every day.
It's like 3/4 people don't know the rules and regulations. Thinking registering their truck for 4499kg is "good enough", others thinking only the truck safety needs to be done yearly and not the trailer, thinking the yellow sticker from when they bought the truck 2 years ago is ok, etc etc.
Repeat after me. "Personal use". These granite slabs are all for my personal kitchen.
Priller
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Probably the wrong thread for this, as it's not a 'real' truck, but we just traded our '22 Civic Touring for a very low mile CPO '23 Hyundai Santa Cruz Ultimate.
I will miss the Civic dearly, and while it was a perfect second vehicle, it was just too limited as an only car for us. Zero towing was the big dealbreaker, but a squeezy back seat for a 6'2" son, low seats that made getting in and out really tough for the in-laws (who live with us and use the car occasionally), and the frustrations around carting anything of size with only a tiny trunk opening, all added up to needing something bigger. I will miss the incredible fuel mileage (average about 7 l/100km), the fun handling, and easy city navigation and parking.
We went with the Santa Cruz because it's the best balance of size/handling/towing/utility/mileage for our mostly urban needs. We cross-shopped the following:
Maverick: surprisingly close in OTD price for the 2.0 EcoBoost in AWD despite every single comparison saying how much cheaper it is than the Santa Cruz, way crappier interior, less power, worse ride and handling, less tech, less towing, similar fuel mileage, on and on - it wasn't even close for us. The only pluses for us were the slushbox transmission being better in stop-and-go, and the bed layout is sliiiightly bigger, though it doesn't have an underbed trunk like the Hyundai. Hybrid would be great for commuting, but the towing isn't enough.
Ridgeline: mostly just way too expensive for what it is, but also slightly worse mileage, less power, worse ride and handling, a bit too tall for elderly entry/egress, stupidest spare tire location ever - unreachable with a load in the bed.
Ranger: too big, truck handling, worse mileage, overkill for our 99% urban needs. Similar for the Canyon/Colorado. We don't need a 'real' truck.
The looks of the Santa Cruz are definitely marmite, but I personally like it a lot (and far more than the bland Ridgeline, not as 'cute' as the Maverick). In person it has a wide and squat stance that hints at one of those Baja racing trucks, with a lot of Aussie ute mixed in. The 4' bed is definitely limited, especially with the roll-up tonneau cover taking another 6" out of the top third. But that cover is also incredibly handy for the other 90% of use cases treating the bed as a trunk, and isn't as finicky as a trifold. Even the Ridgeline has the back wheel of my bikes hanging precariously out past the end of the tailgate, and as a similarly equipped model is $10k more, that leaves lots in the budget for a trailer. This bed works for what we need, which is transport of equipment and tools, stuff for gardening and home improvement (it will take 4x8 plywood or drywall by resting on the wheel wells and adjusting the tailgate height to match). For track days, the bed will be perfect for tools, gas cans, tents, chairs, table, sweaty leathers, etc.
What really sold me on the Hyundai, though, was you get the towing and bed we need in a package that goes way better than expected. It's got surprisingly good zip (0-60 is ~6 sec.), handles better than it should, and is silky smooth over even the roughest Hamilton potholes. The cabin is nicely put together (hate the lack of volume knob, but lived with that in various Hondas and quickly learned to use the wheel controls), and it's a very comfortable place to experience Toronto road rage. It's also the quietest non-luxury vehicle I've driven. I'd read a lot of complaints about the DCT, but it worked fine for me in stop-and-go, and has a nicely direct feeling when you put your foot down. I'm sure it's less reliable than an old torque converter, but we extended the warranty to 7/140k anyway, so well cross that bridge when we come to it. While the CVT in the Civic never bothered me, it's nice having real gears again.
All in all, every one of these is a compromise on the SUV/truck spectrum, with the Santa Cruz being the closest to SUV. But considering 95% of the mileage we do is commuting and grocery-getting, that's exactly what we need.
(Oh, and ventilated seats is something I didn't know I needed until I tried it in sticky Toronto summer weather...)
I will miss the Civic dearly, and while it was a perfect second vehicle, it was just too limited as an only car for us. Zero towing was the big dealbreaker, but a squeezy back seat for a 6'2" son, low seats that made getting in and out really tough for the in-laws (who live with us and use the car occasionally), and the frustrations around carting anything of size with only a tiny trunk opening, all added up to needing something bigger. I will miss the incredible fuel mileage (average about 7 l/100km), the fun handling, and easy city navigation and parking.
We went with the Santa Cruz because it's the best balance of size/handling/towing/utility/mileage for our mostly urban needs. We cross-shopped the following:
Maverick: surprisingly close in OTD price for the 2.0 EcoBoost in AWD despite every single comparison saying how much cheaper it is than the Santa Cruz, way crappier interior, less power, worse ride and handling, less tech, less towing, similar fuel mileage, on and on - it wasn't even close for us. The only pluses for us were the slushbox transmission being better in stop-and-go, and the bed layout is sliiiightly bigger, though it doesn't have an underbed trunk like the Hyundai. Hybrid would be great for commuting, but the towing isn't enough.
Ridgeline: mostly just way too expensive for what it is, but also slightly worse mileage, less power, worse ride and handling, a bit too tall for elderly entry/egress, stupidest spare tire location ever - unreachable with a load in the bed.
Ranger: too big, truck handling, worse mileage, overkill for our 99% urban needs. Similar for the Canyon/Colorado. We don't need a 'real' truck.
The looks of the Santa Cruz are definitely marmite, but I personally like it a lot (and far more than the bland Ridgeline, not as 'cute' as the Maverick). In person it has a wide and squat stance that hints at one of those Baja racing trucks, with a lot of Aussie ute mixed in. The 4' bed is definitely limited, especially with the roll-up tonneau cover taking another 6" out of the top third. But that cover is also incredibly handy for the other 90% of use cases treating the bed as a trunk, and isn't as finicky as a trifold. Even the Ridgeline has the back wheel of my bikes hanging precariously out past the end of the tailgate, and as a similarly equipped model is $10k more, that leaves lots in the budget for a trailer. This bed works for what we need, which is transport of equipment and tools, stuff for gardening and home improvement (it will take 4x8 plywood or drywall by resting on the wheel wells and adjusting the tailgate height to match). For track days, the bed will be perfect for tools, gas cans, tents, chairs, table, sweaty leathers, etc.
What really sold me on the Hyundai, though, was you get the towing and bed we need in a package that goes way better than expected. It's got surprisingly good zip (0-60 is ~6 sec.), handles better than it should, and is silky smooth over even the roughest Hamilton potholes. The cabin is nicely put together (hate the lack of volume knob, but lived with that in various Hondas and quickly learned to use the wheel controls), and it's a very comfortable place to experience Toronto road rage. It's also the quietest non-luxury vehicle I've driven. I'd read a lot of complaints about the DCT, but it worked fine for me in stop-and-go, and has a nicely direct feeling when you put your foot down. I'm sure it's less reliable than an old torque converter, but we extended the warranty to 7/140k anyway, so well cross that bridge when we come to it. While the CVT in the Civic never bothered me, it's nice having real gears again.
All in all, every one of these is a compromise on the SUV/truck spectrum, with the Santa Cruz being the closest to SUV. But considering 95% of the mileage we do is commuting and grocery-getting, that's exactly what we need.
(Oh, and ventilated seats is something I didn't know I needed until I tried it in sticky Toronto summer weather...)
What colour did you get? That is one of the few vehicles that breaks out of the monochrome mold (although barely with muted blue and grey/green but still at least something other than white/grey/black).
Priller
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Ha! White. Zzzzzz.
I actually am not personally a fan of the other colours in person, too much putty paint for my taste in the blue, and the green is a bit turkey camo tryhard. The wife wanted black, but I think it looks better in white as it sets off the grill/arches/bed a bit better, and you can better see the body creases. In the end it was more that the used one with the lowest mileage/longest remaining warranty/best condition/lowest price combo happened to be in white.
2025 Maverick now allows for AWD and 4k tow package to be included on the hybrid....depending on the final CAD pricing...may be tempted to swap the GTI out for one...
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