Pickup Driver Almost Kills Motorcyclist

[mmmnaked]

Everybody in that video is stupid. Personally I would've cracked the guys head open and destroyed the video... but then again, I don't treat residential roads like a racetrack either so the guy probably wouldn't have had a reason to run me off the road. He definitely deserves a savage beatdown, though. No question.

Dumbassery all around.

 

[SunnY S]

Was this video sponsored by Lowe's?

 

[bear22099]

I find it amazing how many people will jump right in defending the bikers by saying they were not treating the road like a race track, when they know damn well that they themselves would love the run that road at speeds higher than the limit. Read up on that road, it is a favorite road amung the locals, and with the internet, they now get out of towners coming in to try it out. To sit there and claim it is not used that way is a joke.

 

[caboose56]

Not far away in TN most drivers treat motorcyclists very differently.

More often than not i had drivers pull off the road to let me pass. Does anyone know what the speed limit is on that road? Or how fast those riders were actually going? I can't say for sure but a lot of roads in TN can still be pretty entertaining while riding the speed limit. If you can actually do the speed limit through the Dragon you're clipping along at a pretty good pace.

I'd guess the riders were speeding at least a bit but I don't remember seeing any speed limit signs in the video. As far as getting fed up with motorcycles goes... if you moved to a house near an airport then got annoyed with the noise caused by planes.. would you go shoot at the planes? Further, it seems that law enforcement in that area has no love for motorcyclists so why not exercise some legal method speed reduction?? If a motorcyclist ran this guy's mom off the road, what does he intend to accomplish by trying to run some other motorcyclist off the road? What if it was a black guy that ran his mom off the road? Would he do the same with the next black guy he saw?

I'm not sure how the law works in Kentucky but if someone got out of their truck holding a tire iron in some areas I'm sure that could be considered a threatening gesture. With the number of Americans that carry (especially in the rural south) I would not be surprised if someone felt it neccessary to drop that guy with two in the leg.

 

[turbodish]

I find it amazing how many people will jump right in defending the bikers by saying they were not treating the road like a race track, when they know damn well that they themselves would love the run that road at speeds higher than the limit. Read up on that road, it is a favorite road amung the locals, and with the internet, they now get out of towners coming in to try it out. To sit there and claim it is not used that way is a joke.

Yeah, really. This is the unedited video showing an extra 2 minutes and change before the encounter with the pickup truck. To claim that it wasn't being used like a high speed test track is obvious denial at its worst.

[video=youtube;k0zes0kiiWA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0zes0kiiWA[/video]
Edited to fix link.

 

[sinbin]

Yeah, really. This is the unedited video showing an extra 2 minutes and change before the encounter with the pickup truck. To claim that it wasn't being used like a high speed test track is obvious denial at its worst.

[video=youtube;k0zes0kiiWA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0zes0kiiWA[/video]
Edited to fix link.

Indeed ... it perfectly justifies damn near killing someone. Your brilliance is truly awe inspiring.

 

[caboose56]

That is the point that was being made, using a particular road as if it was a test track, and a local reacting angrily to it. Being able to use the video of said test track session to convict or not isn't really the issue. The issue is hooligan riders crapping in the front yards of others to the point where a local finally gets fed up with it.

Motorcyclists breaking the law and irritating a local resident does not absolve him of his responsibility to abide by the law as well. Two wrongs don't make a right.

Lots of things irritate me. People that run red lights really irritate me. That doesn't make it ok for me to chase them down and run them off the road.

 

[turbodish]

Indeed ... it perfectly justifies damn near killing someone. Your brilliance is truly awe inspiring.

Motorcyclists breaking the law and irritating a local resident does not absolve him of his responsibility to abide by the law as well. Two wrongs don't make a right.

Lots of things irritate me. People that run red lights really irritate me. That doesn't make it ok for me to chase them down and run them off the road.

This kind of riding in another's neighbourhood does justify anger from people living there. That said, where exactly do I say it "justifies" the truck driver's response?

 

[caboose56]

This kind of riding in another's neighbourhood does justify anger from people living there. That said, where exactly do I say it "justifies" the truck driver's response?

Would you agree that it is unacceptable for anyone to take it upon themselves to resolve a situation such as this in the manner shown in the video?

A simple yes or now will suffice.

 

[turbodish]

Would you agree that it is unacceptable for anyone to take it upon themselves to resolve a situation such as this in the manner shown in the video?

A simple yes or now will suffice.

Read back some. I've already said that I don't condone what the truck's driver did.

That said, you have to consider cause and effect relationships. I can understand the frustration that can arise from others coming in to use your neighbourhood as a race track. I think we all know that there are those among us who will resort to inappropriate measures when faced with frustration. Poke the bear often enough and the bear may decide to poke back in a big way.

We have local issues about gravel and sand being deliberately placed on corners happens in direct response to hooligan riders. That sort of response is inappropriate, but the response wouldn't happen at all if the hooligans weren't tearing up local roads. Cause and effect.

It also happens on the other side of the two-wheel fence. Think back to thefts of motorcycles from condo garages, and people looking to boobytrap their bikes or wait for thieves with baseball bats to inflict the requisite beatings. Would-be vigilantes live on both sides of the two-wheel fence.

 

[caboose56]

Read back some. I've already said that I don't condone what the truck's driver did.

That said, I can understand the frustration that can arise from others coming in to use your neighbourhood as a race track, and I think we all know that there are those among us who will resort to inappropriate measures when faced with frustration. Think back to thefts of motorcycles from condo garages, and people looking to boobytrap their bikes or wait for thieves with baseball bats to inflict the requisite beatings. Would-be vigilantes live on both sides of the two-wheel fence.

I never claimed otherwise.

Your use of the terms "race track" and "test track" is a tad melodramatic. Are they speeding? Yes.. is that anything like a race track? No.

 

[turbodish]

is that anything like a race track? No.

Correct. Oncoming traffic. No flaggers on blind corners. No rapid-response fire or medical personnel. No closed course with fences to keep "non-participants" away from the high speed activities. No crash barriers or fences to contain high-speed participants away from the "non-participants" in event of crash.

Yes, you're right. That road is nothing like a race track. Yet it is being used like one. Is anyone really that surprised that a resident might push back against that, and even push back hard?

 

[Wingboy]

You are wrong turbo.That road is not being used like a "track".It's obvious you have no track experience.

edit: why am i posting a reply to this? You're right turbo.You win.Everyone else is wrong.

 

[Gnu]

Correct. No flaggers on blind corners. No rapid-response fire or medical personnel. No closed course with fences to keep "non-participants" away from the high speed activities. No crash barriers or fences to keep the high-speed participants away from the "non-participants" in event of crash.

Yes, you're right. That road is nothing like a race track. Yet it is being used like one.

Since you think you are the expert, tell us how fast they were going and the facts you used to back up your answer.

 

[caboose56]

Correct. Oncoming traffic. No flaggers on blind corners. No rapid-response fire or medical personnel. No closed course with fences to keep "non-participants" away from the high speed activities. No crash barriers or fences to contain high-speed participants away from the "non-participants" in event of crash.

Yes, you're right. That road is nothing like a race track. Yet it is being used like one. Is anyone really that surprised that a resident might push back against that, and even push back hard?

And they're also riding at a good mid-pack novice group pace. If someone posted a trackday video with that pace and started talking about how fast they were.. i would point and laugh derisively at them. Yes they're speeding but they are nowhere near any kind of respectable race track pace.... hence calling it that being melodramatic.

OOoooooooOOOOOOOOOOOooooohhhhh!!

 

[sinbin]

This kind of riding in another's neighbourhood does justify anger from people living there. That said, where exactly do I say it "justifies" the truck driver's response?

Please. Spare yourself the effort, and us the amusement. You have sufficiently made oblique references to "justification of anger" by generalizing and exaggerating the use of the road by the riders by employing terms such as "race track" etc. I haven't the patience to play your quaint game.

The guy in the pickup tried to kill two speeders. Please spare us the rationale on why the tire iron wielding pickup driver's grievances are near and dear to your and your pea-gravel-scattering brethren's hearts.

 

[Lightcycle]

This seldom happens around here. The locals have instead mastered the fine art of pea gravel in strategic locations.

No, there was a redneck in a pick-up truck out on Highway 7 just north of Myrtle Station that did the exact same thing to us a few years back on a group ride. We got a plate number and reported it to the police, never heard back from them.

 

[JohnnyP636]

Yeah, really. This is the unedited video showing an extra 2 minutes and change before the encounter with the pickup truck. To claim that it wasn't being used like a high speed test track is obvious denial at its worst.

[video=youtube;k0zes0kiiWA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0zes0kiiWA[/video]
Edited to fix link.

That doesn't look or sound like test track speeds to me in the beginning, the speeds get faster after the pass and the truck is then tailgating the lead bike...10 over doesnt even get you any points but it seems like you think it should carry a death penalty lol

 

[acernec]

I don't ride a bike? Yeah, right. More accurately, it's "I don't ride a bike on public roads past people's houses as if the road was my own personal test race track".

In any case, I can fully understand how frustration over ******** tearing up and down roads could cause people living on those roads to resort to extreme methods to discourage such hooligans. I don't have to condone what they do in response to the hooligans to appreciate that frustration.

Tell you what. Tell us where you live so we can invite riders and rodders from around the province to use the road in front of you and your neighbors as an unrestricted test track for a year. Then let's see how that goes over.

Maybe you'll change your mind if someone attempted to run you off the road. If you don't like where you live, move. You don't own the road! Brainless people like you are the worst kind of danger to society.

 

[AdRath]

I think we all know that there are those among us who will resort to inappropriate measures when faced with frustration. Poke the bear often enough and the bear may decide to poke back in a big way.

So you would understand why someone who has been harassed by police or wrongfully charged would try and kill an officer? I'd love to hear you say that you would understand in that situation cause really that is what you are saying here. Both are dumb so why are you defending the one side?

It also happens on the other side of the two-wheel fence. Think back to thefts of motorcycles from condo garages, and people looking to boobytrap their bikes or wait for thieves with baseball bats to inflict the requisite beatings. Would-be vigilantes live on both sides of the two-wheel fence.

The difference is that people are protecting their own property. I fully support people protecting their own property.
In the situation of the pickup truck he doesn't own the road but thinks he does. It would be like me trying to push someone onto the subway tracks because they did something I didn't like. Would you defend that?