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Ontario should make winter tires mandatory.
- Thread starter SunnY S
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Phew, no one can see this. I dump them in someones yard right off hwy 12.
Suckers!!
I'm jumping in late to the party, so apologies if someone has posted this already.
If you're still undecided (or skeptical) of winter tires, I recommend watching the CBC Marketplace episode on winter tires. They do a comparison of stopping distances and control in a swerve with all-season vs. winter tires, on an SUV and a van.
Two years ago we drove our CRV out to Hawkesbury last year January (to pick up our puppy!) on rural roads that hadn't been plowed for quite some time. Snow was packed on the ground on a cold dry day. Hit a patch of loose snow trying to make a pass, and without the snow tires we would have just slid right off into a ditch.
If you're still undecided (or skeptical) of winter tires, I recommend watching the CBC Marketplace episode on winter tires. They do a comparison of stopping distances and control in a swerve with all-season vs. winter tires, on an SUV and a van.
Two years ago we drove our CRV out to Hawkesbury last year January (to pick up our puppy!) on rural roads that hadn't been plowed for quite some time. Snow was packed on the ground on a cold dry day. Hit a patch of loose snow trying to make a pass, and without the snow tires we would have just slid right off into a ditch.
1000% agreed! My dad never needed snow tires and I never used snow tires. None of my relatives needed snow tires. And none of us has ever been in an accident in the winter. Mostly because we are very good at driving. Can't say the same for the other 90% of the drivers out there. Snow tires are not going to help if you are a bad driver. Use the money on a good driving school.
Red_Liner740
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Do you even read what you write or how delusional you sound? ...guess what all those people in the ditch think right before they go in the ditch "I'm a good driver, not like the other 90% of drivers out there"
By your own math, your egotistical mind actually believes that you are the gifted 10% and everyone else is idiots?
It has been proven scientifically that below 5C, snow tires have better grip in dry over all season tires, so its not just snow and ice it helps its ALL THE TIME.
Delisional, right up until you need them, then you'll be singing the "i had to lay her down man!!" song
By your own math, your egotistical mind actually believes that you are the gifted 10% and everyone else is idiots?
It has been proven scientifically that below 5C, snow tires have better grip in dry over all season tires, so its not just snow and ice it helps its ALL THE TIME.
Delisional, right up until you need them, then you'll be singing the "i had to lay her down man!!" song
No one "needs" snowtires in the same way that no one "needs" to have sex with 4 lingerie models at the same time. However after the first time you cant imagine it any other way.
Lets talk after i have sex with the 4 of them, and ill consider switching than.
No one "needs" snowtires in the same way that no one "needs" to have sex with 4 lingerie models at the same time. However after the first time you cant imagine it any other way.
I wood with even one if it saved just one life.
Motorcycle Mike
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That's the thing though, winter tires are really not much extra cost.
You can either drive 100% of the time on all seasons and wear them out in a few years, or you can drive 50% on all seasons and 50% on winters and they both last twice as long. The only thing that really cost me extra to have winters were the steel wheels, and they were cheap.
Only 4 ppl understand this (including you and me).
The one on the left look like Amanda Seyfried.No one "needs" snowtires in the same way that no one "needs" to have sex with 4 lingerie models at the same time. However after the first time you cant imagine it any other way.
I prefer sports illustrated models, me no want
Why do you have an eight slanted?Some people would manage to put a snow cat in a ditch.
This thread
/joke
kwtoxman
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Well, it costs money to swap tires twice a year onto a single set of rims. Otherwise it costs additional money for a second set of rims. And one can't get steel wheels for my car. Now that means aluminum wheels and more money for me.
And then for someone like me who puts 10,000 km a year on, and lets say the tread life will last to 80,000, that means 16 years with 2 sets of tires. Obviously one should not drive tires that old, so now I'm throwing money away on old unused tires, 4 of them even.
As I said, for many people it costs notably more money.
I have driven other people's cars with snow tires. It makes a huge difference. Definitely worth it to have. But I don't have a set myself. Money is tight. And I have had no problem with all seasons on my car year round in a high snow long cold winter area (awd baby). Never have had them either in over 25 years of driving, with no issues.
Still, once I get the money rolling again, I'll do a set. But there is no need for snow tires and I'm not big on social engineering and passing laws to protect people from their own stupidity. Nanny state, but then again what else is ontario known for if not premier dad and bantario.
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rmemedic
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It's the people like that who are the ones that end up in the ditch. I have winter tires on, does that mean I'm a bad driver or unsure of my abilities? Means I understand how things work, and that I care about being safe on the roads. I like having the ability to out stop, and out maneuver all those awesome drivers out there on all seasons. Some dude ended up nearly rolled over in the ditch (steep ditch) leaving the base earlier this week because we had snow... We were in bumper to bumper traffic doing 10km/hr. How he did it I don't know, but I saw he didn't have snow tires on his AWD crossover.
I'm a pretty confident driver (I have around 800,000km of driving time and I'm just 30, lots of off road experience and 2 years of "professional" driving with some pretty large equipment) and I still throw winter tires on because I've experienced driving in the winter on all seasons and how awesome real winter tires are. And the winters here are not like the winters in the GTA. I've shoveled my driveway like 6 times already.
If you're just too cheap, get on Kijiji and find a deal... It took me a week of searching and I found a nearly brand new set of $1600 tires and wheels for $800. They were used 2 months last year and then the guy sold the truck they were on. I won't have to buy winters again for another 4 or 5 years.
I'll take girl #2! But, it's dangerous to have an unbalanced set so I guess I'll have to take all 4.The one on the left look like Amanda Seyfried.
I prefer sports illustrated models, me no want
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rmemedic
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Well, it costs money to swap tires twice a year onto a single set of rims. Otherwise it costs additional money for a second set of rims. And one can't get steel wheels for my car. Now that means aluminum wheels and more money for me.
And then for someone like me who puts 10,000 km a year on, and lets say the tread life will last to 80,000, that means 16 years with 2 sets of tires. Obviously one should not drive tires that old, so now I'm throwing money away on old unused tires with two sets.
As I said, for many people it costs notably more money.
I have driven other people's cars with snow tires. It makes a huge difference. Definitely worth it to have. But I don't have a set myself. Money is tight. And I have had no problem with all seasons on my car year round in a high snow long cold winter area (awd baby). Never have had them either in over 25 years of driving.
Still, once I get the money rolling again, I'll do a set. But there is no need for snow tires and I'm not big on social engineering and passing laws to protect people from their own stupidity. Nanny state, but then again what else is ontario known for if not premier dad and bantario.
Why does it cost you to swap wheels out twice a year? Be a man, get out a jack and spend 30 minutes in the driveway.
What car do you own that you can't find steel wheels for? I had to buy aluminum wheels for my last truck for winter tires, but that's because that truck was far from stock and I needed special backspacing.
The average driver has very limited skill, and doesn't have the sense to think that winter tires might be more than just a marketing scheme if so many people put them on year after year. Sometimes people need to be pushed to do what they should be doing... At least you agree winters make a big improvement. I was surprised myself the first time I tried some out.
It's not a matter of not understanding, it's a matter of how much crap do I need to buy and store? It's really that simple. As an example, I have brand new 10yr. old Honda generator in case of ice storm. Only ran once to check. Should I have life raft in case of flood? Could happen. Finally ditched snowblower I use once a year. Took up to much motorcycle space.
That is a different thing entirely.
If you simply don't want to deal with a 2nd set of wheels and/or tires thats your decision and I respect that decision. The excuse of costing too much money is BS.
Little bit of thread jack. I have completely rationalized purchase of second vehicle. One for winter (my present truck) and a Miata for summer. Just like 2 sets of tires there should be minimal additional cost as each vehicle will last twice as long. I've rationalized it but it won't happen because it'll break my personal code of simplicity. That's how I feel about a second set of tires.
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