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On and off ramps practice stopped by police

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murf said:
What does it matter? If someone crashes on an on ramp hes only going to
Hurt himself.
90% of drivers on the road dont follow speed limits, its unreasonable to think they will, just like its unreasonable to think sportbike riders will not try to sample the cornering ability of their bike. There is nothing you can say or do that will change that.
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The point I was trying to make is that if you want to do something illegal, don't ***** about being caught.

You must be very naive to think that crashing on your motorcycle doesn't affect anyone but yourself. It has an impact on a lot of people, directly and indirectly.


at_28 said:
I practice at maintaining throttle control at exactly 30km/h.
I practice looking where I want to go.
I practice not getting scared of going on roads that are not straight lines.
I'm building a case against what?
I suggest you re-read my post and see if I mentioned anything about illegal behaviour.
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You're not the one getting pulled over.
 
I like taking ramps at speed. It's a guilty pleasure. I find it hard to resist.
Am I riding at 100%? No.

Are people likely to get upset about it? Yeah, but oh well. Public road is meant to be enjoyed.

Flame away...
 
PSY said:
If you are on the list you will get an invite.
What happens at ramping stays at ramping.
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<<Still waiting for this exclusive invite
Wait...why is this member all of a sudden banned? Is it because he spoke of something that's classified? See what ramps does...it gets people it ****.
 
I like ramps!
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If you don't notice the cop while you're ramp'agin, you suck!
 
Recon, ramp, Ramp, RAMP, run :cool:
 
Reading the first page and not going to read the rest.
Some of you guys need to know your rights when dealing with the police..
(If you are not breaking any laws, you do not need to give up your ID)


As for you getting nailed, there is no such charge.
Because your "friend" is doing loops using the ramps, there is no charge under the HTA.
As for the speed limit, the on ramps have a suggested speed. You can go what ever speed for your safety.
But here is the trick, say DVP has the speed limit of [90km/h]. You cannot exceed 90km/h. Even though traffic speeds off the ramp are going usually 110km/h, travelling anything above 90km/h posted is still speeding and you can get nailed for it. In conclusion, if you decide to speed over the speed limit posted on the highway (not ramp), you will be charged for speeding.
Another situation is if you decide to go slow at a "unreasonable" speed on the ramp, with traffic behind you, you will be nailed for obstructing traffic.

So you are free to do so looping around on the ramps.

But when you have 2 motor-vehicles or more doing loops at the same time, if the police see's the action taking place, on reasonable grounds, the police can pull you all over and impound all your vehicles even though you have followed the speed limit.
 
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LannyNguyen said:
Reading the first page and not going to read the rest.
Some of you guys need to know your rights when dealing with the police..
(If you are not breaking any laws, you do not need to give up your ID)
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That makes no sense. The court decides whether you've broken the law. That would mean you never have to provide ID until you're proven guilty. You can question the Officer's reasons for stopping you if you like, but if you're stopped:

As to carrying licences and surrender on demand
33. (1) Every driver of a motor vehicle or street car shall carry his or her licence with him or her at all times while he or she is in charge of a motor vehicle or street car and shall surrender the licence for reasonable inspection upon the demand of a police officer or officer appointed for carrying out the provisions of this Act. R.S.O. 1990, c. H.8, s. 33 (1).
 
LannyNguyen said:
Reading the first page and not going to read the rest.
Some of you guys need to know your rights when dealing with the police..
(If you are not breaking any laws, you do not need to give up your ID)
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what? That isn't true when you are engaging in a licenced activity...
 
what's going to be interesting is if the guy that got busted "hanging off his seat" will actually have the charges stick...i mean, you get a lawyer, pay all the money for impound and license and insurance to have it tossed cuz the popo was just a little anxious in filling his quota...
 
i remember 10 years ago. i was comming onto the hwy410.(at queen/410)i was in my awd talon. so i comming onto the ramp at a high rate of speed and at the apex i notice 3 cop cars just passed it.the were doing seat belt checks.
when i backed off the gas the blow off valve goes off and then all the cops turned there heads at the same time.now here is were the problem happens with a awd car when you back off the gas quick the back end will come around. so now i'm pointing at the cop cars it was funny to see the cops dashing for cover.i then mat the gas and steer were i want to go to save the slide.
the last cop in the line waved at me to pull over.when the car was back in line i pulled over.
it was funny to see the cops face she was scared sh*tless and was impressed at the same time. she said i wont even ask you what speed you were doing. good i said i would not tell you anyway.
she said there were doing a seat belt check but since you have a 5 point harness i guess you pass and sent me on my way.
 
freedomfighter said:
i remember 10 years ago. i was comming onto the hwy410.(at queen/410)i was in my awd talon. so i comming onto the ramp at a high rate of speed and at the apex i notice 3 cop cars just passed it.the were doing seat belt checks.
when i backed off the gas the blow off valve goes off and then all the cops turned there heads at the same time.now here is were the problem happens with a awd car when you back off the gas quick the back end will come around. so now i'm pointing at the cop cars it was funny to see the cops dashing for cover.i then mat the gas and steer were i want to go to save the slide.
the last cop in the line waved at me to pull over.when the car was back in line i pulled over.
it was funny to see the cops face she was scared sh*tless and was impressed at the same time. she said i wont even ask you what speed you were doing. good i said i would not tell you anyway.
she said there were doing a seat belt check but since you have a 5 point harness i guess you pass and sent me on my way.
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I've always heard those 5 point harnesses are illegal and unless you still have the original seatbelt installed and are wearing it, you'll still get a ticket. If the original seatbelt is not installed they'll take your car off the road.

Could be wrong as it was hear-say though.

I don't have that problem with my AWD WRX. Only thing I've noticed is at moderate throttle it will understeer but if I give it more gas the back end will slide out a little to match the front and make it handle more neutral. Although supposedly a stiffer rear sway bar improves that.
 
Emefef said:
That makes no sense. The court decides whether you've broken the law. That would mean you never have to provide ID until you're proven guilty. You can question the Officer's reasons for stopping you if you like, but if you're stopped:

As to carrying licences and surrender on demand
33. (1) Every driver of a motor vehicle or street car shall carry his or her licence with him or her at all times while he or she is in charge of a motor vehicle or street car and shall surrender the licence for reasonable inspection upon the demand of a police officer or officer appointed for carrying out the provisions of this Act. R.S.O. 1990, c. H.8, s. 33 (1).
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The court does decide whether you broke the law or not, I agree. Not only the courts, but the police on their grounds can charge you for braking the law. The police can stop you for violating the law. If you are minding your own business and driving without breaking any laws, you do not need to give up your ID. If you are swirving then that's a VALID licence inspection.
Unless you are a criminal or asked to give up your ID because you may look like a suspect, and you do not give up your ID, then you are obstructing justice or the police.
 
LannyNguyen said:
The court does decide whether you broke the law or not, I agree. Not only the courts, but the police on their grounds can charge you for braking the law. The police can stop you for violating the law. If you are minding your own business and driving without breaking any laws, you do not need to give up your ID. If you are swirving then that's a VALID licence inspection.
Unless you are a criminal or asked to give up your ID because you may look like a suspect, and you do not give up your ID, then you are obstructing justice or the police.
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So if I get pulled over for a "Routine traffic stop" I can say sorry officer I don't have to identify myself and they will say ok, have a nice day?
 
jeffjones said:
So if I get pulled over for a "Routine traffic stop" I can say sorry officer I don't have to identify myself and they will say ok, have a nice day?
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You don't have to. A routine traffic stop is still a traffic stop for violations.
You are protected from search and seizure by the police, you are also protected when you are merely detained for investigation. Section 9 of the Charter Right and Freedoms reads as follows:9. Everyone has the right not to be arbitrarily detained or imprisoned.

This section guarantees that if the police stop to question you, they cannot do so randomly, or on a mere hunch. Your car cannot be pulled over unless it is for the purpose of enforcing the Highway Traffic Act or drinking and driving laws. Working together, sections 8 and 9 require that the police do their homework before engaging in conduct that limits the freedom of its citizens to go about their business undisturbed.
 
LannyNguyen said:
You don't have to. A routine traffic stop is still a traffic stop for violations.
You are protected from search and seizure by the police, you are also protected when you are merely detained for investigation. Section 9 of the Charter Right and Freedoms reads as follows:9. Everyone has the right not to be arbitrarily detained or imprisoned.

This section guarantees that if the police stop to question you, they cannot do so randomly, or on a mere hunch. Your car cannot be pulled over unless it is for the purpose of enforcing the Highway Traffic Act or drinking and driving laws. Working together, sections 8 and 9 require that the police do their homework before engaging in conduct that limits the freedom of its citizens to go about their business undisturbed.
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You are wrong. Just stop. seriously.
 
unL33T said:
I've always heard those 5 point harnesses are illegal and unless you still have the original seatbelt installed and are wearing it, you'll still get a ticket. If the original seatbelt is not installed they'll take your car off the road.

Could be wrong as it was hear-say though.

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i have been herrassed more then 200 times (95% of the time i'm not even driving my car) and only a couple of times cops have tried to give me the gears about my seat and harness.
i then tell them my insurance would fight the ticket for me because if everybody had to stap into a 5 point harness the insuance would only have to pay out 10% of disability claims. then would sue the cops for their lawyers fees
at the end of the day what is a child seat?
its a smaller racing seat with a 5 point harness
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my talon is set up alot differantly then your suburu.
 
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