Thanks, this is a terrific idea. Where are the best ramps so I can make sure to "practice". Wait, what is it that we're practising for again?
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On and off ramps practice stopped by police
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sonyminidiscman
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I do the lawrence ramps pretty often, however, max I'd do is 80km/hr.... which is under the speed limit of the highway. In addition, when I was doing my G2 exit test, like 10 yrs ago, I was deducted points because I was exiting the highway less than 100km/hr.
I asked why and the examiner said, "I don't know why noone knows this but you are suppose to merge and exit highways at the speed limit." I am like OK, no problem, I will show you that when we get back on the highway. No need to tell a young driver that he should drive faster! lol
I asked why and the examiner said, "I don't know why noone knows this but you are suppose to merge and exit highways at the speed limit." I am like OK, no problem, I will show you that when we get back on the highway. No need to tell a young driver that he should drive faster! lol
OMGSelenaGomez
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That should be common sense that you don't decelerate until you've exited the highway. Highway merging is different because you're not going to merge any more or less than 10km/h with respect to the current traffic. Anyways, 80 sounds slow for those ramps. This is why we use them for practice.
Merging above traffic is fine. You can always slow down more. People that merge below the limit, on the other hand, drive me insane.
RR929
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Practice for...... in case an old lady is hitting the ramp right behind you in a cager going in at 90km/h ... and she doesn't see too well.
I can't speak for others, but for myself, I haven't been riding too long and not as often, for me, when I exit off hairpin ramps, I have to do all my braking before the entry point then make the turn. I am not at the level where I can make slight braking adjustments mid turn if I am going in too hot. I do plan on taking the FAST course next year and maybe get into a few track days.
For me, even if I am making the turn at a comfortable speed.. let say if there is a sudden patch of gravel or the car in front makes an emergency stop and I had to stop. I need to be comfortable doing all that at a speed I can manage. Sad to say it, but if I was going 80 in a hairpine turn, I don't think I can manage all those unforseen variables if it happens. So, probably more practice could help in case of those emergency situation?
For riders who can hit the hairpin at 100+, can you manage all the variable comfortably and safely? i.e. emergency stop, oil patch or gravel??
RedDogDarren
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Practice for...... in case an old lady is hitting the ramp right behind you in a cager going in at 90km/h ... and she doesn't see too well.
I can't speak for others, but for myself, I haven't been riding too long and not as often, for me, when I exit off hairpin ramps, I have to do all my braking before the entry point then make the turn. I am not at the level where I can make slight braking adjustments mid turn if I am going in too hot. I do plan on taking the FAST course next year and maybe get into a few track days.
For me, even if I am making the turn at a comfortable speed.. let say if there is a sudden patch of gravel or the car in front makes an emergency stop and I had to stop. I need to be comfortable doing all that at a speed I can manage. Sad to say it, but if I was going 80 in a hairpine turn, I don't think I can manage all those unforseen variables if it happens. So, probably more practice could help in case of those emergency situation?
For riders who can hit the hairpin at 100+, can you manage all the variable comfortably and safely? i.e. emergency stop, oil patch or gravel??
Just stop tailgating blind old ladies on hairpin ramps filled with gravel at extreme speeds.
If you're really spankin it there's not much you can do mid corner to do an emergency stop. You can tighten or widen your line a bit, but over sand/leaves/gravel it's best to not do anything abrupt, have faith that your bike will handle it.
Have you seen Twist of the Wrist 2? http://kat.ph/keith-code-twist-of-the-wrist-vol-2-dvdrip-t3216744.html
It's a great video to understand how the bike works and what you usually do to mess it up.
-Jamie M.
OMGSelenaGomez
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Practice for...... in case an old lady is hitting the ramp right behind you in a cager going in at 90km/h ... and she doesn't see too well.
I can't speak for others, but for myself, I haven't been riding too long and not as often, for me, when I exit off hairpin ramps, I have to do all my braking before the entry point then make the turn. I am not at the level where I can make slight braking adjustments mid turn if I am going in too hot. I do plan on taking the FAST course next year and maybe get into a few track days.
For me, even if I am making the turn at a comfortable speed.. let say if there is a sudden patch of gravel or the car in front makes an emergency stop and I had to stop. I need to be comfortable doing all that at a speed I can manage. Sad to say it, but if I was going 80 in a hairpine turn, I don't think I can manage all those unforseen variables if it happens. So, probably more practice could help in case of those emergency situation?
For riders who can hit the hairpin at 100+, can you manage all the variable comfortably and safely? i.e. emergency stop, oil patch or gravel??
In practice, you're trying to find out the speed where you can't make those moves at. As you practice, that speed will get higher and higher until you've met the speed that your bike can physically handle in that corner. Supposedly, as humans, we will never find that speed due to human error. But we have a speed that's within our own comfort and increasing that comfort zone is what we work on.
At 100+, your e-stop distance is reduced no matter how skilled you are as opposed to your e-stop distance at a slower speed. Sometimes, just being able to do it isn't enough if the distance isn't there. Often, it won't. I've found gravel is easy to answer and I've always avoided oil patches with careful lane positioning.
It depends on what you're practicing, though. If you're "practicing" to go as fast as you can and pushing your limit as you try to push the bike's limit, that's the part that makes it, IMO, wrong for the public roads. If you're practicing a smooth line at reasonable speeds to build your confidence and refine your skills how would that be wrong?
In a car, a student driver can practice highway entry/exit under the direct supervision of an instructor. Can't do that on a bike, it has to be done alone.
Higher performance driving instruction is done off the public roads. Higher performance riding instruction is also done off road.
When M2 Exit training programs take to the roads, they often include loops because it's easy to simply get on the highway, then get off one or two exits away and come back again. There is no purpose to it other than to practice/coach the riding skills.
If you aren't screwing around on the ramps, clearly trying to drag a knee or get through the ramp at the highest speed possible, then there's no clear reason for cop to give you a hard time. [expecting rebuttal with bad day or ***** hole stories].
Imagine that conversation:
"You've gone by here a few times. What are you doing?"
"Practicing"
"For what?"
"I came around this ramp yesterday and was nervous trying to maintain the same speed as the vehicles in front and behind me. I wanted to build my confidence without any traffic around. I figured it would be safer."
Its unreasonable to think everyone with a sportbike is going to go to the track. 90% never see the track, and people dont buy sportbikes to not enjoy them. I do lots of track, still like a good street ride as well however.
PSY
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That doesn't make it legal.
PSY
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Say again, over??????
What does it matter? If someone crashes on an on ramp hes only going to
Hurt himself.
90% of drivers on the road dont follow speed limits, its unreasonable to think they will, just like its unreasonable to think sportbike riders will not try to sample the cornering ability of their bike. There is nothing you can say or do that will change that.
I practice at maintaining throttle control at exactly 30km/h.
I practice looking where I want to go.
I practice not getting scared of going on roads that are not straight lines.
I'm building a case against what?
I suggest you re-read my post and see if I mentioned anything about illegal behaviour.
You're doing it right, and no they can't.
Finding out by crashing would be the worst way to test the theory.
Street and track riding are two different animals.
PSY
Banned
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