Omar Khadr Gets Bail... A War Criminal? A War Victim? Which is it?

What connection or correlation does that have with throwing a grenade at an unarmed medic in a war zone?
 
This again?? I already said 8 in this thread. Geez for a guy who's all about numbers and mental capacity.......:p

you said it 8 times well I missed it 8 times then, what is the age you think people know right from wrong?
 
In the mids of all this argument, lets not forget that he didnt necessarily even do it. Again, he confessed but at Gitmo after many years of torture, most of us would do what they want. So the confession isnt worth a dime in my opinion.

There was a gitmo ex prisoner that they would threaten to rape his mother if he didnt give them a confession. Gitmo is no ordinary place.
 
In the mids of all this argument, lets not forget that he didnt necessarily even do it. Again, he confessed but at Gitmo after many years of torture, most of us would do what they want. So the confession isnt worth a dime in my opinion.

There was a gitmo ex prisoner that they would threaten to rape his mother if he didnt give them a confession. Gitmo is no ordinary place.

His family has enough bad intentions history and actions that I think it's a pretty good bet he did it considering his upbringing
 
so he woke up. went out of his house with a bag full of grenades looking for american uniformed mercenaries? is that what you are saying....

he was at home they attacked him... he responded... your reap what you sow
 
What connection or correlation does that have with throwing a grenade at an unarmed medic in a war zone?

Well, as others have mentioned, nobody actually saw Khadr throw a grenade. They assumed he did it and seeing as he was the only one left alive, why not pin it on him?
"According to the original U.S. military version of events, Khadr ambushed American soldiers with a grenade following a four-hour fight at a mud compound in Afghanistan.Pentagon officials later backtracked slightly after it was revealed nobody witnessed Khadr throw the grenade. Pentagon officials said an eyewitness wasn't needed, because Khadr was the only al-Qaeda fighter left alive and the only person who could have thrown the grenade.
However, a classified document, inadvertently released to reporters at the military prison by a Pentagon official Monday, provides a different eyewitness account of the events.
A U.S. soldier at the battle said in sworn testimony that two al-Qaeda fighters were alive after the fatal grenade attack.
The unidentified soldier says he killed the first al-Qaeda fighter before spotting Khadr, whom he said was wounded, on his knees and facing away from him. For reasons he does not go into, he says he shot him in the back twice.
The Pentagon says American soldiers fired on Khadr in self-defence after he tried to attack them.
Khadr's military lawyer Lt.-Cmdr. Bill Kuebler suggests that the U.S. military may have been involved in a coverup.
"The U.S. government had a problem on its hands when it found that it had a 15-year-old Canadian on its hands with two gaping bullet holes in his back that had been facing away from the fight," said Kuebler."

Two, that unarmed medic was armed and a full member of a special ops force.
"Sergeant First Class (SFC) Christopher James Speer (September 9, 1973 – August 6, 2002)[SUP][2][/SUP] was a U.S. Army combat medic and an armed member of[SUP][3][/SUP] a special operations team who was fatally wounded during a skirmish in Afghanistan on July 27, 2002. Speer, who was not wearing a helmet at the time because the mission called for indigenous clothing, suffered a head wound from a grenade and succumbed to his injuries approximately two weeks later.[SUP][4][/SUP][SUP][5]"
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Maybe more to the point, Speer too should have been considered an unlawful combatant as he was not wearing a military uniform or insignia readily distinguishable from a distance.
 
so he woke up. went out of his house with a bag full of grenades looking for american uniformed mercenaries? is that what you are saying....

he was at home they attacked him... he responded... your reap what you sow

He was at home with a bag full of grenades? Sounds like reasonable modern civilized behaivour
 
Well, as others have mentioned, nobody actually saw Khadr throw a grenade. They assumed he did it and seeing as he was the only one left alive, why not pin it on him?
"According to the original U.S. military version of events, Khadr ambushed American soldiers with a grenade following a four-hour fight at a mud compound in Afghanistan.Pentagon officials later backtracked slightly after it was revealed nobody witnessed Khadr throw the grenade. Pentagon officials said an eyewitness wasn't needed, because Khadr was the only al-Qaeda fighter left alive and the only person who could have thrown the grenade.
However, a classified document, inadvertently released to reporters at the military prison by a Pentagon official Monday, provides a different eyewitness account of the events.
A U.S. soldier at the battle said in sworn testimony that two al-Qaeda fighters were alive after the fatal grenade attack.
The unidentified soldier says he killed the first al-Qaeda fighter before spotting Khadr, whom he said was wounded, on his knees and facing away from him. For reasons he does not go into, he says he shot him in the back twice.
The Pentagon says American soldiers fired on Khadr in self-defence after he tried to attack them.
Khadr's military lawyer Lt.-Cmdr. Bill Kuebler suggests that the U.S. military may have been involved in a coverup.
"The U.S. government had a problem on its hands when it found that it had a 15-year-old Canadian on its hands with two gaping bullet holes in his back that had been facing away from the fight," said Kuebler."

Two, that unarmed medic was armed and a full member of a special ops force.
"Sergeant First Class (SFC) Christopher James Speer (September 9, 1973 – August 6, 2002)[SUP][2][/SUP] was a U.S. Army combat medic and an armed member of[SUP][3][/SUP] a special operations team who was fatally wounded during a skirmish in Afghanistan on July 27, 2002. Speer, who was not wearing a helmet at the time because the mission called for indigenous clothing, suffered a head wound from a grenade and succumbed to his injuries approximately two weeks later.[SUP][4][/SUP][SUP][5]"
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Maybe more to the point, Speer too should have been considered an unlawful combatant as he was not wearing a military uniform or insignia readily distinguishable from a distance.

why didn't the Americans just kill him and be done with it. Why save his life.
 
He was at home with a bag full of grenades? Sounds like reasonable modern civilized behaivour

It is if you live in a war zone. How many French partisans kept grenades, explosives, weapons and ammo in or near their homes when France had been over-run by a foreign invading army?
 
It is if you live in a war zone. How many French partisans kept grenades, explosives, weapons and ammo in or near their homes when France had been over-run by a foreign invading army?

Those French didn't have a choice, the Khadr pieces of crap left canada to go back to this place ,they weren't trapped there.
 
why didn't the Americans just kill him and be done with it. Why save his life.

They were going to until one Special Forces officer stopped them and ordered him to be taken for questioning. Not much different from the Iraqi with the kid and the drill in American Sniper - only the means of dispatching the victim was different.
 
@sonnythebull.. one more time what are you actually objecting to


decide what your objections really are... is it
A) he is a terrorist( how dare he fight our thugs).
B) he doesn't wanna be gay( how dare he)
c) he is getting welfare(according to sonnythebull... i can't verify this information since its not public information) because we tarnished his reputation beyond repair, kept him in a secret prison where he was tortured and denied his most basic rights with the help of the canadian govt... ohh was also not allowed to study.. no high school,college, university( because we can get away with it... nizzle ma shizzle..).
D) i will wait for you to change your excuse.



E) is it possible your objection is not to him as a individual(internally) but rather what he is externally(culture/ethnicity/religion) but don't wanna say it in public..... hmmmmm i wonder

btw do you have an option D for us yet?

NVM

And what culture you live in and are from and what parents you have who left a nice place like canada and brought you back to hell
 
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