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Noise restrictions bylaw coming for Oakville
- Thread starter the bandit
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Read the thread.
I would say no, there doesn't really need to be another law, because virtually every city or township has an excessive noise bylaw. It wouldn't hurt to revise HTA 75 to include actual numeric standards though, as the current law is laughable in its lack of clarity.
mindactivated
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I must have missed it, 'cause I read the whole thing and even did a search for "tacho".
Maybe someone spiked my eggnog...
Caledon was proposing to use a sound-frequency analyzer. The problem is that a very well-balanced even-firing four-cylinder engine could have a primary sound frequency double the actual RPM and a very well-balanced single-cylinder engine could have a primary sound frequency half the actual RPM. There's no assuring that an engine will always display a primary vibration that coincides with its RPM.
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edit: this is out of topic so I withdraw my question
you still didn't respond my question, I posted dyno results of your bike at less than 120 HP and not the 140 you reference! Since you know your bike, I am sure there is an explanation and that dyno chart is wrong.
edit: this is out of topic so I withdraw my question
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JFD
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I have a feeling this will be an unenforced law unless you're being douchey. IE unnecessarily revving your engine or riding like a dick.
You may not have broken any laws, but guess what, they got one they can always slap on you if they feel like giving you a hard time.
I've always had a pipe, but I've ridden with various levels of experienced riders who really have heard pipes before. I'm not impressing anyone by revving it up in a parking lot. (I have heard a few dudes on new sportbikes who insist the revving is to keep it from stalling cuz it's so powerful - seriously).
I even have a few db's (wow, how appropriate for the subject) in my neighbourhood that inisist on riding the whole road in high first gear for some bizarre reason.
Never **** in your own area. I'm the biker on my street and always try to respect my area by not revving it up even when coming home or leaving.
Even the stang guys behind my house will lumber out of the neighbourhood before opening it up.
It's all about respect. Have fun but don't be exceed the db limit (wow, applicable again) unnecessarily.
You may not have broken any laws, but guess what, they got one they can always slap on you if they feel like giving you a hard time.
I've always had a pipe, but I've ridden with various levels of experienced riders who really have heard pipes before. I'm not impressing anyone by revving it up in a parking lot. (I have heard a few dudes on new sportbikes who insist the revving is to keep it from stalling cuz it's so powerful - seriously).
I even have a few db's (wow, how appropriate for the subject) in my neighbourhood that inisist on riding the whole road in high first gear for some bizarre reason.
Never **** in your own area. I'm the biker on my street and always try to respect my area by not revving it up even when coming home or leaving.
Even the stang guys behind my house will lumber out of the neighbourhood before opening it up.
It's all about respect. Have fun but don't be exceed the db limit (wow, applicable again) unnecessarily.
I saw this one coming lol
AFJ
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When I saw the "methodology" used by Caledon officials at one of their "testing sessions" it seemed to me that they had been poorly trained or were people who did not have a background which would allow them to absorb the technicalities of the test procedure. They did have a sirometer in their kit, but seemed afraid to use it because they didn't seem to know how it worked. They did not have an accurate way to measure the 50 cm distance from meter to exhaust outlet or an accurate way to confirm a 45 degree angle to the exhaust outlet. They did not have the motorcycles in proper alignment to the meter or the meter in an accurately held position relative to the motorcycle.
My experience with a sirometer for rpm measurement is that it is surprisingly accurate and compatible with bike-mounted rpm gauges.(even when testing a Suzuki Rotary engine) Of course, electronic measurement of spark frequency is another way. Other people who do dirt bike noise level testing tell me that the sirometer is what they use and their regulations advise.
I, too, have heard that they (Caledon) were planning to only use the 92 dBA idle test. And in public hearings held by the Town of Oakville a Halton Region Police motorcycle constable stated that while he had experimented with a sound meter by testing his police motorcycle, he had been able only to test reliably at throttle idle. It was apparently too hard for him to get the motorcycle to hold at 2000 rpm to get a consistent reading on the sound meter.
It begins to look to me like the J2825 test method works OK for SAE engineering types and other people with a scientific testing background and training. But that accurate implementation of it in practical situations may be more difficult. Several of the motorcycle noise cases in Edmonton last year were dismissed on the basis of improper testing procedures done by the police.
AFJ
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OpenGambit
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Maybe, but out of your neighbourhood doesn't necessarily mean its in someone elses.
Evidently, it does, for these laws to be taking effect and mushrooming.
OpenGambit
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The original comment was about being respectful. I don't see why it should be interpeted as being the opposite of that. I just see it as nit picking on words, there is nothing to indicate that the poster was revving it up in other people's neighbourhoods.
There's also the factor of showing MORE than normal respect in your own neighbourhood, which again doesn't imply a lack of respect elsewhere. For example I consciously short-shift my already quiet bike, in my own neighbourhood, but I don't get within thousands of rpm of redline in any other residential area.
yes, I was agreeing with turbo.....wait a minute
What was the device Gottlieb Daimler patented in 1885 for a mechanically driven fan to force air into the intake of an engine then?
One could say the same about much of your "information"
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JFD
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Nope, you read further into it yourself. But I do know where you're trying to take it...
I noted about being in parkinglots and not revving it up unnecessarily. Me, i have a bad habit of keeping revs low (econ car driving menatlity).
The ever increasing childish population.
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