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matt365
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Have you ridden both?
I have.
Depends on the type of riding one plans on doing.
Strictly street I'd, I'd take the first gen fz6 every time.
Mix of street and gravel, v-strom.
Strom is a bike that dissapears under you. Makes you appreciate the ride and scenery more when the bike is so mediocre. Sometimes that's a good thing... sometimes not. It certainly won't light your hair on fire, but it's dependable.
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bigpoppa
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never ridden the strom, but the fz6 was gutless and garbage on the street
fitted with an old r6 engine with a 14k redline that made almost no real world stomp. By the time the ride is getting fun you're double the speed limit, yay....(sarcasm) Not only did it not make immediate usable power, but it had all the personality of a microwave
I did have the sv which I enjoyed.
Same engine, but I suppose the gearing and the weight might change the experience, still cant be as bad as the yamaha
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matt365
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Was it the old fz6, or the newer crappy fz6r?
My buddy has one. I've ridden it often enough. Sure you have to rev the nuts off it, but 90hp compared to the stroms... what, under 70? - but the trade-off is for sure useable torque, and no top end.
I've got a lot of seat time on an sv as well. Budget suspension, but springs, valving, and a gsxr shock make a world of difference. At least its running 17" rims. I'd take an sv over a v-strom for strictly street duty.
It'd be a toss up between the fz6 and the sv650.
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Here's a 2008 V-Strom w/ 77k on the odo for $3800 and some useful upgrades. Can easily do double or triple that mileage on this bike - it's just broken in now.
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That was part I disliked. Having to wait while it spooled up to north 6 or 8 grand.
I had it up to an indicated 237kph. What's the point of that kind of umph with a speed limit of 100?
gommes
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Thank you. I’m following this one too. I returned to 2011 versys without abs again. If they lower price a bit, I want to buy it. Since it’s dealership they can store until I get my m2. I contacted to fz6 too it’s a bit far but still considering.Here's a 2008 V-Strom w/ 77k on the odo for $3800 and some useful upgrades. Can easily do double or triple that mileage on this bike - it's just broken in now.
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Another '08 V-strom
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gommes
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I came up with 2010 CBF600SA listing in Kitchener. @shanekingsley this is some kind a rival model for fz6 but only sold in Canada in 2010. Have you guys had any experience on this model? Any thoughts? Seller said some parts are identical with cbr600rr and asked $4000 or obo. Another 4 cylinder 600cc. Do you think it’s worth?
It's been a while since I read through this thread? Have you gotten some insurance quotes. New M2 with a 600 will probably suck a lot in the insurance department.
I personally don't like 600cc 4 cylinders for a street bike. They are ****** off at legal speeds and really settle down and are a lot of fun at far beyond legal speeds. Not much torque so you need to rev the piss out of them and that attracts tickets even if you aren't going that fast.
gommes
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But isnt it gonna be more comfortable as a commuter bike on highway? Maybe less vibration with 4 cylinder? I’m also considering price point. I haven’t seen parallel twin 600cc adv touring bikes at this price point.
I shared my quotes in 2022 insurance quotes topic:
Not too bad eh for new m2 rider. But of course these were just liability.
Sochi
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It has almost 50K of mileage + it's NOT so popular mass bike here = hard to sell to get most money back.. First bike is often a short term proposition so I'd personally try to stick with something most popular and with a bit lower mileage to have it gone in a minute when you bored on it or craving a 1L bike or different type of bike... just my 0.04 cents (adjusted to inflation
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gommes
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I also reached honda dealership for part inquiry just to make sure if they can find parts and service this model. I’ve been rolls regular maintenance wouldn’t be an issue since some other models share same filters etc. but there’s no aftermarket stuff since it wasn’t popular in North America.
On the other hand “Front rotors, radiator & fuel pump” would be back ordered and at least 3-6 weeks. And prices are as below:
Are they normal? I think I can order front rotors in advance since I’ll definitely need it some time.
On the other hand “Front rotors, radiator & fuel pump” would be back ordered and at least 3-6 weeks. And prices are as below:
Are they normal? I think I can order front rotors in advance since I’ll definitely need it some time.
Sochi
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LOL don't get married to that bike so fast!
you can spend time learning to ride if you pay a bit more and have NO any expensive maintenance till 20K on newer bike or spend time learning how to be "mechanic" fixing old beat up baby sitting at the second mayor maintenance interval... (major I mean: chain, sprockets, breaks, fluids, etc.)
Maybe lower your engine size for a newer model - Kawi/honda 300cc - have it for a few months and get yourself what you really want in the fall when prices and availability would improve a bit? just an option..
250 and up will be fine on the highway. Lots of 300 and 400 cc bikes available that are great for building skills and will sell in seconds when you decide it's time to move on.
@LePhillou just posted his 500x, that's another good choice (although I still think most people will do better with 250-400 as a first bike). If you prefer red, @mimico_polak seems to be itching for a change. Upright, not too heavy, more than enough power to feel comfortable, ok torque.
I agree with everything you guys have said and that bike posted by @LePhillou would be a great bike having been recently worked on by the dealer.
gommes
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Yeah before coming to Canada I used one cylinder 400cc for 2 years. My commute was 20 km in total and most of the time in the city. I enjoyed riding that machine in the city. But when I went for longer rides on the highway, more than an hour over 100 km, vibration was unbearable in every area that my body touched the bike.
This time I’m into a longer commute 200 km at least everyday on the 401 and 20k in the Toronto city centre. That’s why I want to go at least 600c if I’m not mistaken.
This time I’m into a longer commute 200 km at least everyday on the 401 and 20k in the Toronto city centre. That’s why I want to go at least 600c if I’m not mistaken.
Hahaha I am...but my bike's still in pieces. Need to start putting it together again. Damnit. Should've never taken it apart.
Thanks guys! Yeah the cb500x is a great bike and i'd recommend it to anyone. The most i've done on it was 1000km in a day, so it should definitely be comfortable enough for that commute. Tons of options for luggage but i used a cargo net the whole time i had it, nothing more.
I've done rides back when i didn't have 2 kids with it and kept up in the twisties being the smallest engine.
The extra hp or cc does definitely give you a little bit of an oomph on the bike i can't lie. But i never found that i was lacking, except when comparing with my supersport friends or friends on 750s +
As i mentioned in my ad, i'd still be riding it if it weren't of the circumstances.
I've done rides back when i didn't have 2 kids with it and kept up in the twisties being the smallest engine.
The extra hp or cc does definitely give you a little bit of an oomph on the bike i can't lie. But i never found that i was lacking, except when comparing with my supersport friends or friends on 750s +
As i mentioned in my ad, i'd still be riding it if it weren't of the circumstances.
500x can eat miles with no problems. Some of the small bikes will be less buzzy than others as they are twins (kawi). Given the boring hour on the highway each way, I would be more inclined to go with 500x as it will have some torque without dropping three gears. I'd need to look at dyno graphs but I suspect the 500x may have more torque when cruising in top gear than some of the 600-4's.
