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Wow...I never thought auto-headlights would be such a big deal lol. I think technology is making people more forgetful and lazy. I'm all for useful technology but stuff like the blind spot indicators that light up on the side mirrors have made people lazy to move their heads and check over their shoulders. My pov is that if a person doesn't know how to switch between low/high beams or if they don't know the basic functionalities of a vehicle, they shouldn't be driving. Similarly, if they forget to turn off their headlights while exiting the car, they will learn soon enough that they should check.

Not talking about how much it costs to add the feature in, but I feel that people have too many aids these days that they're relying on technology for even small things like turning a knob which is sad. #endofrant
Window cranks anyone? Or having to manually lock every door?
 
As someone posted above, for some reason dealership mechanics seem programmed to turn headlights from auto to off. That really messes with clients that left them in Auto and didn't expect a change.
We turn them off for a number of reasons. Mostly being as soon as you drive into the shop the lights come on and stay on any time the key is in the on position. Quite often we might have to have the key on for a hour or more while doing some work and don't want to run the battery down or have to lean over a grill/hood with hot headlamps.
 
Not if you own a honda, and want the yearly upgrade.
Free if you own a Honda, and a separate Garmin with free maps.

Do they even make vehicles with window cranks and separate locks anymore? Not as much $$$ in it.
 
Best part is the dash staying off unless lighting system is actually on. Lot of idiots driving at night because they think their lights are on but you can’t see them from the back

Even if the dashboard was dark I'm increasingly convinced that with the IQ of many drivers seemingly hovering around room temperature right now, they still wouldn't clue in even if the dashboard was pitch black dark.

Such a dinosaur law. What is the plan for the LED dashboards? They cannot be dark. Are they banned now? Why lights should be LED - there are many cars with the superior laser headlights.

Maybe it’s better to review the old headlight standard, so we will have the same headlights they have in Europe, with beam formation and such?

Most dashboards are backlit TFT/LCD's now, not individual LED's like they were in the 80's. So, yeah, they can actually be dark. Entirely.

Ever seen a laptop with a backlight that's gone dead? The screen still works and if you shine a light on it you can even still see what's on the screen. It's just pretty much invisible.

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So, it's a Simple IF/THEN/ELSE/AND lines of code in the BCM.

IF outside light level = dark AND lights not switched on THEN set dashboard baclight power level zero. Until they turn on the lights, their whole bloody dashboard is pitch dark even though the data is still being displayed - a LED display without backlighting in the dark is pretty much just black.

When they clue in and turn the power switch on, boom, it lights up.

Then again, see earlier comment. Some mouth breathers would still drive around with their dashboard completely dark and not have a clue.

So, yeah, auto headlights it is for all. I applaud this new regulation.
 
Passed what I think was an Audi with the DRL's only on tonight. No back lights. C shaped led's around the headlights were lit, but with no effective distance. 400 series road, way outside of Toronto, with no overhead lighting. Still managed to not turn on his lights, after he cut me off while "merging". I slowed down, and flashed my lights at him, but I don't think he was interested.

Also noticed that my right front low beam does not reflect the highway signs.
Perhaps the bulb was changed with a left front instead of a right front?
I'll get it checked out at the next service.
 
Passed what I think was an Audi with the DRL's only on tonight. No back lights. C shaped led's around the headlights were lit, but with no effective distance. 400 series road, way outside of Toronto, with no overhead lighting. Still managed to not turn on his lights, after he cut me off while "merging". I slowed down, and flashed my lights at him, but I don't think he was interested.

Also noticed that my right front low beam does not reflect the highway signs.
Perhaps the bulb was changed with a left front instead of a right front?
I'll get it checked out at the next service.
The mini is RHD and still has RHD lights in it. I don't drive it much as night as I don't feel like spending the next day scrubbing off bugs and they are terrible sealed beams so it's not a big problem.
 
Free if you own a Honda, and a separate Garmin with free maps.

Do they even make vehicles with window cranks and separate locks anymore? Not as much $$$ in it.

The change in terminology is interesting. Way back the manual transmission was standard and a lot of people still refer to manual as standard when, unless I'm wrong, most cars come with automatic trannies which would make them "Standard".

Non powered locks and windows would be in such low demand the production costs and resale values would make the plain Janes non viable.

A friend was a service electrician and not being a supervisor did not qualify for air conditioning when he got a new van years ago. The Astro / Safari vans came with standard air so the company he worked for paid the dealer a grand to take it out.
 
The change in terminology is interesting. Way back the manual transmission was standard and a lot of people still refer to manual as standard when, unless I'm wrong, most cars come with automatic trannies which would make them "Standard".

Non powered locks and windows would be in such low demand the production costs and resale values would make the plain Janes non viable.

A friend was a service electrician and not being a supervisor did not qualify for air conditioning when he got a new van years ago. The Astro / Safari vans came with standard air so the company he worked for paid the dealer a grand to take it out.
My dad got a great deal on a car in 1990 because it had hand-crank windows and they were having trouble selling it.
 
My dad got a great deal on a car in 1990 because it had hand-crank windows and they were having trouble selling it.

I always got a kick out of the automakers who had sedans with power windows in the front and hand cranks in the back.

Not sure what these makers were thinking.

The dodge neon comes to mind. I'm certain there were others.
 
The change in terminology is interesting. Way back the manual transmission was standard and a lot of people still refer to manual as standard when, unless I'm wrong, most cars come with automatic trannies which would make them "Standard".

Non powered locks and windows would be in such low demand the production costs and resale values would make the plain Janes non viable.

A friend was a service electrician and not being a supervisor did not qualify for air conditioning when he got a new van years ago. The Astro / Safari vans came with standard air so the company he worked for paid the dealer a grand to take it out.
Astro also came with a really crappy anti stall in the accelerator. You could floor it, then count to five before the acceleration kicked in.

I do remember when we bought the Acura, we also looked at the Toyota Celica.
They wanted to sell us one without air, and we could put it in later, to get the price down.
Originally, we'd gone in to buy a Chevy Cavalier, but the salesman priced us into a different brand.
 
Not sure what these makers were thinking.

They were thinking they could save $10 or $20 in manufacturing costs for every car they crank off the line for minimal to zero customer disappointment.

So "maximizing profit" is what they're thinking since that seemingly token amount of money for every one of the millions of those turds that rolled off the line padded the bottom line.
 
Audi has had laser headlights in Europe for several years. As usual the Luddites @ Transport Canada have been dragging their heels over them.
 
The thing the EU has that North America doesn't, are the headlights that divide up their light output into "pixels" and strategically block light emission into the pixels that the automation establishes would be into the eyes of oncoming drivers. We can have high beams or low beams only as a whole.
 
The thing the EU has that North America doesn't, are the headlights that divide up their light output into "pixels" and strategically block light emission into the pixels that the automation establishes would be into the eyes of oncoming drivers. We can have high beams or low beams only as a whole.
Do we still have the piece of regulation active that limits the number of headlights that was written in the days of sealed beams? That one line kills most of these alternative solutions (that are probably better).
 
The bit about not having more than 4 white forward-facing lamps beyond a certain brightness? Yes, but it seems to be understood that multiple light sources for a single function that are optically combined (e.g. most LEDs) only counts as one.
 
The thing the EU has that North America doesn't, are the headlights that divide up their light output into "pixels" and strategically block light emission into the pixels that the automation establishes would be into the eyes of oncoming drivers. We can have high beams or low beams only as a whole.
I had the car with those and they are FAN-TAS-TIC.

This video is from freaking 2012 - and we still cannot have those here:
 

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