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all I can say is, if your headlight switch has "auto" why in the name of God would you not leave the switch in that position? My idiot BIL goes to drive my elderly Moms car, switches it to ON, and then after he goes back home, she is driving around with her headlights on during the day not knowing he changed the setting. I'm very grumpy today and can't go riding to make things better.
 
Such a dinosaur law. What is the plan for the LED dashboards? They cannot be dark. Are they banned now? Why lights should be LED - there are many cars with the superior laser headlights.

Maybe it’s better to review the old headlight standard, so we will have the same headlights they have in Europe, with beam formation and such?
If the vehicle manufacturer chooses to use an instrument display that can't be turned off then they must design the outside lighting to come on automatically when it gets dark. It's not hard.
 
all I can say is, if your headlight switch has "auto" why in the name of God would you not leave the switch in that position? My idiot BIL goes to drive my elderly Moms car, switches it to ON, and then after he goes back home, she is driving around with her headlights on during the day not knowing he changed the setting. I'm very grumpy today and can't go riding to make things better.
As someone posted above, for some reason dealership mechanics seem programmed to turn headlights from auto to off. That really messes with clients that left them in Auto and didn't expect a change.
 
all I can say is, if your headlight switch has "auto" why in the name of God would you not leave the switch in that position? My idiot BIL goes to drive my elderly Moms car, switches it to ON, and then after he goes back home, she is driving around with her headlights on during the day not knowing he changed the setting. I'm very grumpy today and can't go riding to make things better.
Let me get this straight. You’re upset that your mother was now more visible during the day. Ok.
 
all I can say is, if your headlight switch has "auto" why in the name of God would you not leave the switch in that position? My idiot BIL goes to drive my elderly Moms car, switches it to ON, and then after he goes back home, she is driving around with her headlights on during the day not knowing he changed the setting. I'm very grumpy today and can't go riding to make things better.
He leaves them on, not off? That would kill the battery in my vehicles.
 
He leaves them on, not off? That would kill the battery in my vehicles.
You're right. Now I think he switched them to OFF when exiting the car, but it was a long time ago, can't recall such a tiny memory.. My point was that I don't get why you would not leave the switch in Auto. But he doesn't what end of a hammer is the business end so I wasnt surprised.
 
If the vehicle manufacturer chooses to use an instrument display that can't be turned off then they must design the outside lighting to come on automatically when it gets dark. It's not hard.
Doesn’t work if user fails to keep a light switch in “auto” position
 
You're right. Now I think he switched them to OFF when exiting the car, but it was a long time ago, can't recall such a tiny memory.. My point was that I don't get why you would not leave the switch in Auto. But he doesn't what end of a hammer is the business end so I wasnt surprised.
Some people are auto people, others are switch on/off people, the majority are completely oblivious and drive around with no lights on at night.
 
Doesn’t work if user fails to keep a light switch in “auto” position
It sounds like off may disappear as an available position. To comply with the new law, you probably have on or auto as your only choices if they can't disable dash lights.
 
Doesn’t work if user fails to keep a light switch in “auto” position

The "off" position - a true "off" - is not permitted in that case.

Canadian vehicles as original equipment haven't had a complete-lights-off position on the headlamp switch since DRL became a requirement. A position marked "off" really means "daytime running lamps on when parking brake is released" or something similar.
 
... ** comes out of stone age **
Your lights turn on automatically?

Both my suby and volks were pretty easy to figure out, if it was nighttime and my lights weren't on, my dash would BLIND ME as it was at the brightest setting. Once i turned on the lights, the dash would dim down to make it driveable.
And otherwise daytime lights were pretty much always on.

I don't know why it has to be more complicated. We are talking about turning on a freaking light ahahah
Why do they sell medium coffees? Because small or large is a frightening gap, too much or too little. If they didn't have in betweens on light switches they might do the same with radio volumes, whisper or shout. When you're living in your mom's basement you need some place to practice decisions.
 
Why do they sell medium coffees? Because small or large is a frightening gap, too much or too little. If they didn't have in betweens on light switches they might do the same with radio volumes, whisper or shout. When you're living in your mom's basement you need some place to practice decisions.
With today's market, i understand them. Although i can't relate. I like the Leroy Jenkins approach. (obscure reference)
 

The Euros were ahead of the game because many cities required "city lights", similar to DRLs. It was an offence to drive with your headlights on in town. My 89 Golf from Belgium had projector low beams with low powered bulbs in the corners of the high beam housings for just that.

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The article is raging against a non-issue. No road vehicle sold in Canada since 1990 has truly had an "off" position on the headlamp switch. Even if marked as "off", it really meant "daytime running lights on but everything else off".

The issue was that the "daytime running lights on but everything else off" position combined with instrument lighting that is on all the time (including LED, TFT, LCD, etc which cannot display anything without emitting light) resulted in drivers not realising that their taillights weren't on.

All three of the permissible choices in Transport Canada's regulatory change, address this - whether by all lights on all the time (option 1), or automatic in dark conditions (option 2), or kill the instrument lighting like in the old days (option 3).
 
Such a dinosaur law. What is the plan for the LED dashboards? They cannot be dark. Are they banned now? Why lights should be LED - there are many cars with the superior laser headlights.

Maybe it’s better to review the old headlight standard, so we will have the same headlights they have in Europe, with beam formation and such?

we've always been behind. AFAIK we don't even get laser headlights here. not sure if our laws prohibit or it's just due to the Americans DOT.

doesn't matter how great your lights are if you forget to turn them on. just had someone this morning in a subaru crosstrek, no lights, flashed them a few times and just gave up. 80kph country road, in the dark.

my last truck that had no auto headlights, would keep the dash dark if you had only DRLs on, very noticeable if you forgot at night.
But even then, I've seen people driving with zero dash lights on and had to tell them your lights aren't on (cue the fumbling with highbeam then back to headlights). You really have to make things idiot proof these days.
 

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